Will be disabled by drivers from each vendor. Probably won't ever happen.
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Gears of War 4's PC-exclusive features detailed
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Will be disabled by drivers from each vendor. Probably won't ever happen.
TheAdmiester
Member
Wrong.
Dreams-Visions
Member
take notes, Overwatch.
Oh stop it. This meme is both boring and inaccurate.
Rise of the Tomb Raider: Identical system requirements and performance between Steam and UWP version
Gears Ultimate: Driver issues when it launched, works great now
Killer Instinct: Looks beautiful, runs on practically anything
Quantum Break: The one outlier performing worse than it probably should, but even then it does stuff most other PC games don't do, making it not entirely an apples-to-apples comparison
Forza Apex: Runs extremely well on any competent gaming PC
SunBroDave
Member
Lol
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Does this have crossplay? Because keyboard + mouse means console players are screwed.
Post source please. AFAIK, stuff like Long War which require hex editing DLLs and executables are not possible with UWA.
ATOMICJORGE
Member
Yes they did, like other people are saying Killer Instinct and Forza 6 Apex run are very good ports they run very smooth
TheAdmiester
Member
Memory and file edits are possible, yes. DLL injection not quite yet, but what you said was in reference to "you can mod UWP" which implies any modification in general.
Unauthorized mods in this case, being DLL injections and hex edits. Is there actual proof of this working? I haven't seen anything about this.
Modding UWP beyond model swaps and asset swaps is possible, but I haven't seen anything substantial at all.
it has crossplay for campaing and horde mode, multiplayer wont be crossplay
You defining an unauthorized mod as dll injections and hex edits is arbitrary. A model swap is unauthorized. An authorized mod is putting hooks in your game easing the mod-ability of said game.
You're right, it is. What I'm getting at is does it current moddability at all reflect Win32's current moddability? It doesn't.
Probably should've just started with that lol, my bad.
And again, I want to see successfully memory and file edits please.
phoenix296
Member
Only Co-op and Horde mode iirc.
qa_engineer
Member
This is a DX12 title, right?
FunkyDealer
Banned
Please let the dynamic scaling work with a 60FPS target as well! My PC is ready!
(I just ordered a wireless receiver for the Xbone controller)
(I just ordered a wireless receiver for the Xbone controller)
FunkyDealer
Banned
It can offer a more notable competitive advantage than framerate, so it's understandable why Overwatch doesn't do it.
I'm not saying I don't want it, just that I understand and accept the likely reason why it is what it is.
OnionPowder
Member
Dedication baby
And being locked behind UWP like their other Windows Store games.
TheAdmiester
Member
Some file edits of Forza 6 (editing car LOD settings, rain density, and the credits files) are visible in this thread here: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1243771&highlight=
I think I was one of the few people who managed to get into the files which is why you might not have heard much about it. It's a total pain to access but works for some.
I don't see AMD blocking it, but Nvidia definitely would at some point if they can.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Given I'll be buying the Gears console, it'll be interesting to see how my Alienware runs this with a 970M 3GB
Iced_Eagle
Member
Erm, this has already been out for months... It's a bit late for vendors to flip a switch if they wanted to. I don't really see why they would though.
Benchmarks: http://www.pcworld.com/article/3036...-and-geforce-come-together-in-directx-12.html
In fact, EMA provides better performance than SLI if you're using the same card. Obviously the cards you use and the developers implementation will vary a lot so depending on how they balance the workload you're going to see different results. In the above benchmarks a 980 + Fury X gives better performance than two 980's.
Ashes of the Singularity has it today, so if you have two DX12 cards you can give it a shot. Tomb Raider has it also I believe. Civ VI has committed to adding it as well. MS showed it working in UE4 so it could likely come to UE4 games as well if it's added into mainline.
chronic_archaic
Member
I really don't get why people are still so hung up about UWP issues. They're clearly improving it and if you were a company trying to unite your core platforms why wouldn't you be using your own established ecosystem anyway? Look at all the COD games, none of the recent ones have mod tools but people will go and bitch about fucking Gears not being moddable and use Microsoft as a scapegoat because if it's not Steam then fuck it it's shit I'm not buying it. What the fuck.
jediyoshi
Member
That's not the modding people are talking about. UWP restrictions are fairly well known and discussed at this point.
Thank you for actually providing proof lol.
So that leaves live memory editing and injection.
Echoing what Durante has brought up in every thread, however, I don't think we'll see any improvements in regards to injection ever. Microsoft has already locked that down in the name of "security" and that'll probably be the biggest blow for a lot of games. Reshade, ENB, and anything else that relies on DLL injection will disappear.
I'd be very surprised if MS opened this back up as it would allow cheating, which I believe is one of the benefits of UWA at the moment. Live memory editing would also be used by cheats, so I don't know if that's disabled as well.
Yes, it's already out but it certainly isn't common by any stretch of the imagination. It would be surprising if NVIDIA, who is known for locking down this kind of stuff, doesn't bother with disabling this sort of thing when it detects another AMD GPU installed.
LukasTaves
Member
Actually someone did managed to make injection work on uwps too. But it requires giving system access to the injector application/dll which is not something you'd want to do for just about any game.
Source please? Actually interested in this.
EDIT: Ok I just saw a huge post on a cheating forum about it :/ looks like cheating isn't going away
chronic_archaic
Member
But are these restrictions enough for people to outright not buy a game? Aside from cheating what could you possibly gain from memory editing that anybody would care about in this game?
WouldYouKindly
Banned
Soo they are saying whats the point of getting it on xbox then?
vasametropolis
Member
The combination of supersampling, dynamic resolution and framerate targets could produce insane results. Have the best image quality/performance you can at any given moment.
Edit: Doesn't look as if framerate targets were mentioned. 2/3 still pretty good.
Edit: Doesn't look as if framerate targets were mentioned. 2/3 still pretty good.
like 99% of games on consoles and pc
Oh wow, lol
At this point HDR could be exclusive to the XB1 (slim).
Modding in UWP?
I'd imagine it would be more like tricking Windows into thinking your M/KB are a controller.
Outrun
Member
Cue the Scarface music.
Some of these features. Amazing. You have sure convinced me of your support for pc gaming, microsoft.
You should be saying "basic" features. Thats what you should be saying. You are now attempting to include basic features in PC games. Except modding of course. Cause fuck that.
But that guy on that forum somewhere editing something somehow, that means theres mod support.Modding in UWP?
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Thanks I'm a scrub in terms of PC stuff so I need all the help I can get
Rabid Wolverine
Member
Ill be PC'ing this one. 60fps will be a must.
Guessing 1440/1080p would a 1070 be minimum?, or could a overclocked RX480 be possible?
Guessing 1440/1080p would a 1070 be minimum?, or could a overclocked RX480 be possible?