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[Graphics Horse]

Can somebody explain this?

The brain of the NX is inside the controller? How do you connect it to the dock station?

Hmm I'm going to have to read this again.

It sounds a bit confused seeing as they say controller singular when they just said there were two, I think they mean the display in this case, though I had been advocating something opposite like a system inside the controller where the screen could work as a stream receiver. If the controller is genuinely bookends and not a clamshell half then I can't see the system being housed in one of the two sides!

 

[Durante]

Yeah. That thing really needs a better screen and a better case than the Wii U's GamePad, which just felt dirty cheap. I wouldn't count on it, though. They will probably go for budget hardware.

Yeah, that's my biggest concern.

This is the way to go IMO as they need all their games in one place to have a broad enough library to be appealing without third part parity. Which they aren't getting with tegra vs x86 in their competitors.

ISA is mostly a non-factor.

 

[Baloonatic]

Unsure about the hybrid thing but having all of their development teams focused on one device is fantastic news.

 

[bunkitz]

Holy shit. This sounds awesome. Cartridges! Fucking cartridges! I miss those shits. Damn. And the whole portable-but-can-connect-to-TV's thing is really cool too. It's like the PS4 and VITA in one? Shit, I'm getting excited. Never had a Nintendo console before, aside from our Famicom. Plan to get an NX in the future just for Zelda, but this makes it a lot more appealing.

 

[DNAbro]

Who asked for this?!
I'm mad as HELL!

quite a few. Hybrid rumors/wants were all over the place until Nintendo said "it's not a hybrid." But I guess that's a lie.

Holy shit. This sounds awesome. Cartridges! Fucking cartridges! I miss those shits. Damn. And the whole portable-but-can-connect-to-TV's thing is really cool too. It's like the PS4 and VITA in one? Shit, I'm getting excited. Never had a Nintendo console before, aside from our Famicom. Plan to get an NX in the future just for Zelda, but this makes it a lot more appealing.

3DS and DS have cartridges. Not like it's anything new.

 

[Zero83]

Really curious to see what it looks like and how it feels.
Nintendo going all out with first party titles, and hopefully (funded) 3rd party exclusives, for NX should be something.

Could the "base unit" provide additional power to increase performance/graphics of software when connected at home???

There was some rumours that other devices within the house (like another home console) would somehow increase the power of the NX, a while back. I never understood what that was really about and how that could work, even in theory.

 

[NotSelf]

What I always wanted the 3ds to be.

 

[iBlue]

Is it at least more powerful than the Wii u?

 

[Ensirius]

WTF is this? Damnit, this needs to be good as I will HAVE to buy it for Zelda.

 

[CoryCubed]

Granted the mini NES doesn't have a screen, but it is a good way to butter people up with the concept of a smaller, less powerful Nintendo to play their games and get those in peoples living rooms. Like our NES? Powerup with the new Nintendo NX! Play anywhere.

 

[Anth0ny]

I don't understand why they'd go for the hybrid when handhelds are doa everywhere but japan

they still have that bias, I think. they look out the window and go "Look, everyone loves handhelds! Consoles are dead! 3DS did better than Wii U! We gotta focus on handhelds!"

It's pretty fucking ignorant, considering the worldwide market. This thing might do well in Japan, though mobile will probably still steal its lunch money. In the West? Good fucking luck Nintendo, seriously.

An underpowered, "unique" piece of hardware that will once again probably lack substantial third party support, but has a crap ton of first party output. I don't see who this is for other than the ~20 million Nintendo faithful.

 

[ashbash159]

Can't wait to play Zelda on this thing.

Just worried that it may run worse on this thing than on the Wii U.

 

[backflip10019]

Indeed.

But it also sounds like the home-console experience is technologically compromised to accommodate for the mobile experience.

Seems like backwards priorities as the dedicated-gaming mobile war is lost to smartphones.

Such a strange move. It reads like a desperate last stand for a culture that has simply moved on from (dedicated hardware) handheld gaming.

Yeah, I agree with you. The bolded is my biggest worry, especially when I never play games on the go.

 

[Spirited]

If this gets some 3DS ports and all the handheld and the stationary first-party games then I think I might actually get it on a second thought.

 

[akileese]

there you go but include an hdmi out.

Surfacebooks work pretty much the same way if it's a true hybrid. You can undock the surfacebook and you've got an intel chip powering it, but there's more power in the keyboard dock that can actually allow you to game.

This is not to be confused with actual surface pros which just have the flap keyboard. The surfacebook is MS' laptop version of the surface.

Honestly, I got one of the super high end models for work and it's awesome. I can travel with it and play stuff like overwatch with no problem. I'm wondering if it harnesses the same sort of tech.

 

[ekim]

Well I'm more interested in NX now than before.
Don't get the comments about this being a bad idea. *shrugs*

 

[BossDarkseid]

Intriguing.

It sounds like a good concept but I await the reveal before being all "TAKE MY MONEY".

I have potential issues with the screen of the portable and the resolution etc.

However since Nintendo are seeing such insane success with Pokemon GO been the dominant in handheld gaming for a decade (the og PSP did well, right?) this might be the way they see things going forward.

 

[Litri]

Shocking but if they nail the price, it see this selling a lot.

 

[phanphare]

That's cool and all it doesn't adress the elephant in the room which is Western 3rd party devs. That is what Nintendo lacks.

this solution basically makes them irrelevant to the console's success. if western 3rd parties think there's an audience on NX and want to port their games over? great. they'll add to what should be a great gaming library already. if not? great. Nintendo's first party stuff will be consolidated on one device and all of their other 3rd party stuff also won't be split across two platforms. so the library and release schedule should be great without them, making those games a great addition but not a necessity.

after the Wii U Nintendo was never going to bet on western 3rd party support. this is the perfect solution. it gives them an in while not hamstringing Nintendo to their support.

edit:

Yeah the main takeaway from this will be hopefully amazing Nintendo games. 3rd party, high specs you aren't getting that Nintendo fans but to be fair you never really cared about 3rd parties.

exactamundo

 

[Wildean]

Hi NX!

Yeah, sounds like if those controls were detachable basically. Hard to get excited about.

 

[Fourth Storm]

Interesting that it seems that w/ the docking station, we might get some dual screened games akin to Pikmin 3's Wii Remote + Gamepad control scheme.

 

[zakujanai]

I just can't picture this as anything other than a hot mess. It's hard enough incorporating one decent controller into a handheld device, so two detachable ones sounds like a joke. Excited to see it though and how my lack of imagination use proven wrong.

 

[Mechazawa]

So basically this thing is exactly what we all assumed it was going to be, outside of the detachable controllers.

Hi NX!

This is exactly what I came here to reference.

God please don't let the ergonomics of this thing be shit.

 

[MuchoMalo]

And What about Sonic 2017?

I believe NX will come with Tegra X2 :

"Assuming that X2 offers a generational leap over X1 and uses the same Pascal architecture found in its new GPU line, we are potentially looking at power more in line with the current-gen consoles"

The past four 3D Sonic games have had handheld versions which look and play differently. That's what NX is getting. That's also why it's not getting Mania; that's console-only.

 

[Spy]

So if it's Tegra powered...

...no backwards compatibility, no third party support, and might not even be graphically on par with the Xbox One.

Thanks Nintendo.

 

[mattp]

why do all these rumors keep calling them cartridges?
do we call 3ds games cartridges?

i feel like unless the thing has a big hollow plastic shell, it's just a "card"
i dont put sd cartridges into my camera

calling it a cartridges implies something like an n64/genesis/nes/etc game

 

[dancrane212]

I was actually thinking of the NX being a system like this when I was futzing about with my PSP Go recently. Drop the console in the dock and continue on playing the TV with a Dual Shock without any hassle (aside from initially syncing your DS3).

 

[SpecX]

Hi NX!

Wtf? Did they strap 2 PS Move controllers onto a tablet?

 

[PR_rambo]

Wait, so two detachable controllers? What will happen to to our 4 player smash shenanigans?

 

[ThoughtsOfSpeaking]

Honestly, I'm nowhere near a great lover of anything Nintendo, but I would of thought they would of had a bit more....ambition than this.

 

[The Elite]

The disconnecting controllers form the portable unit just strikes me as odd. Just make a 3DS XL sized unit instead and have separate controllers for base station use. No need to disconnect them from the main unit.

 

[UrbanRats]

Im sure people will love to carry along another device with their phone that already does everything, including play games.

 

[Rodin]

My biggest question atm.

Tegra X1 (Maxwell) is already vastly more powerful than Wii U. If this uses X2 (Pascal, 16nm) it will possibly be around Xbox One when used as a home console. So yes, Zelda will look better.

 

[DoctorFling]

Nintendo need to actually show this thing

 

[Ganondolf]

so do we think the docking station will have a separate gpu like the extra processing power patent?

 

[mdubs]

This, I am ready

 

[grmlin]

Ports of other PC/PS4/XONE (x86) games are not that easy with an ARM-based platform, right?

 

[robotrock]

why do all these rumors keep calling them cartridges?
do we call 3ds games cartridges?

i feel like unless the thing has a big hollow plastic shell, it's just a "card"
i dont put sd cartridges into my camera

calling it a cartridges implies something like an n64/genesis/nes/etc game

I have always called GB/GBA/DS/3DS games cartridges

 

[@Wreck]

Well it'll be running Breath of the Wild, so there's that.

yah i'm really interested in the third party stuff like skyrim and street fighter or something...

breath of the wild looks alright, but not really my cup of tea

guess we will have to wait and see.

 

[Griss]

Some thoughts:

Industrial design and price are the two major factors which will determine whether this thing is a huge success or a modest one. (It will be SOME kind of success, I’m sure of it.)

No backwards compat makes me glad I’ve owned and kept my Wii U. Look for Wii Us to start flying off the shelves, lol.

I wish I hadn’t allowed people in the media to convince me that this was a home console - it never made sense for it to be anything other than a portable to replace the 3DS and I said so all the time… I just didn’t trust myself I guess.

I was saying that after the Wii U Nintendo shouldn’t try and compete against Sony and MS with a traditional home console again. I was shocked that it sounded like they were going to… but common sense won out, which is great. I’m not sure we’ll ever see a traditional Nintendo home console ever again. I don’t think I mind.

The ‘supplementary computing devices’ patent suggests that the base could have an additional GPU in it or something to help games render at 1080p. It would make sense to sell the base separately for those who want it, as plenty of people will just want the handheld and if there’s actually tech in the base it could cost a bit of money.

This sounds like basically everything I ever wanted in a Nintendo console. I’m over the moon here.

Only disappointment is that Zelda: BotW (which I thought was graphically disappointing) is probably not going to have the graphically incredible version a lot of us thought it would have.

 

[Anth0ny]

The past four 3D Sonic games have had handheld versions which look and play differently. That's what NX is getting. That's also why it's not getting Mania; that's console-only.

cause mania is so graphics intensive LOL

 

[mclem]

It will be Nintendo TDS (table docking station) so there is no confusion with the DS,3DS,NDS.

I suspect Nintendo would go to great pains to avoid an acronym that is trivially pronounced "tedious".

But then, they did release the Wii.

 

[_PsiFire_]

Zelda: BOTW on the go? I'm in for that alone.

I wonder if this setup will allow for an upgradable dock for TV use? Maybe not at launch but Holiday 2017 we can get new docking hardware that will get us up to PS4 NEO specs?

 

[Marow]

This excites me greatly. I really hope they nail the design and specifics of docking, though.

 

[cw_sasuke]

The past four 3D Sonic games have had handheld versions which look and play differently. That's what NX is getting. That's also why it's not getting Mania; that's console-only.

Just stop...lol.

Yo motherfuckers who gave me shit about hybrids on here for the last 3 years or whatever the fuck. "B-b-b-b-but Iwata said..."

YOUR MOVE.

Great move by Nintendo if true. This is their space, and they needed to consolidate everything hardware to make a real go at it. Now you own the one Nintendo thing and it does it all. Add in a Netflix like subscription service of all the roms and isos ever, and they're doing Pie and Bean's Business Plan.

HYBRID, BABIES!

You are right - but i feel the they denied the hybrid because you will likely need the Dock and addition controllers to unlock the "console" or "home" mode...so its not like the portable is alone to hook up to the TV. I really think the Dock might include addition processing power to display the handheld games at 1080p.

So if it's Tegra powered...

...no backwards compatibility, no third party support, and might not even be graphically on par with the Xbox One.

Thanks Nintendo.

To be fair most of the things would be the case for anyone here even if it wasnt Tegra powered...so i dont really get your point. You really think 3rd party devs wont work on the system because its Tegra powered ? The system and it games selling like shit might be a reason...but i doubt the SoC will be.

I could see Hanndheld games having BC though - but no WiiU games for obv reasons.

 

[Eylos]

isn't x1 tegra already expensive?

 

[GitarooMan]

So it's like a Shield tablet with detachable instead of separate controllers.

 

[Godzilla's Left Toe]

WTF is this? Damnit, this needs to be good as I will HAVE to buy it for Zelda.

You can buy a Wii U probably a better buy.

 

[what-ok]

OK. Nothing new. Want high end graphics then stick with SONY. If you want a portable, then NINTENDO it is. Next.

 

[Hermii]

So the dock station has extra gpu power? Like the surface book?