All those first party titles and Japanese exclusives.....
Who gives a fuck about power at this point? Think about how many games this thing could get.
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Eurogamer: NX = portable w/ carts, detachable controllers, Tegra, TV Out, no BC, Sept
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All those first party titles and Japanese exclusives.....
Who gives a fuck about power at this point? Think about how many games this thing could get.
then don't and play it at home.
sechsterangriff
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I'm guessing underclocked GPU and 720p native resolution while in mobile mode and full clock and variable resolutions while connected to its base station.
Enter the Dragon Punch
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you don't? just because it has the option to be portable doesn't mean you're forced to use it
One thing that kind of bothers me is that if this really is Nintendo's push on the portable side of things then the big elephant in the room needs to be addressed of it kind of defeating the purpose of a personal portable experience. Two people in my household own a 3DS and it's an easy thing to deal with whether you're playing on your own or with someone else; but if you want your own portable console does this mean you're going to have to buy two NX consoles?
This has always been my main issue when it comes to dealing with a portable/console hybrid. It kind of eschews the main advantages of each front. I hope this is something Nintendo deals with or thought through properly.
This has always been my main issue when it comes to dealing with a portable/console hybrid. It kind of eschews the main advantages of each front. I hope this is something Nintendo deals with or thought through properly.
IntelliHeath
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Nintendo says many things. There are some people kept insisting that NX is more likely to be hybrid but some people just shut them down.
My point is people shouldn't take words at face value. Only if EuroGamer is right.
The hardware can output 1080 to the TV even if the handheld screen is less than that.
ViewtifulJC
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There's no way it can't be compromised by its handheld design. Thats the entire point. A compromise between console and handheld.
For now.
purseowner
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#BelieveInDock
Haunted
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They will need to show some real fucking incentive for using the dock. Like, I'm expecting substantial improvements when the same game is played portable vs via dock.
The premise of playing your portable games on the big screen alone didn't work out so well for the Ouya and were nothing more than minor peripherals in the past (GBA player, PSVita TV).
The premise of playing your portable games on the big screen alone didn't work out so well for the Ouya and were nothing more than minor peripherals in the past (GBA player, PSVita TV).
Tatsumi Oga
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So for the folks with some knowledge about this stuff. Is it at least in the ballpark of Xbox One?
Herbspiceguy
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Really curious to see what it looks like and how it feels.
Nintendo going all out with first party titles, and hopefully (funded) 3rd party exclusives, for NX should be something.
Could the "base unit" provide additional power to increase performance/graphics of software when connected at home???
Nintendo going all out with first party titles, and hopefully (funded) 3rd party exclusives, for NX should be something.
Could the "base unit" provide additional power to increase performance/graphics of software when connected at home???
Cow Mengde
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People, seriously, read this:
Imagine the handheld is down clocked when you play it as a portable. Once you hook it up to the dock, it upclocks the GPU for a boost in power because it no longer has to worry about battery life.
There's a lot of potential here.
Imagine the handheld is down clocked when you play it as a portable. Once you hook it up to the dock, it upclocks the GPU for a boost in power because it no longer has to worry about battery life.
There's a lot of potential here.
Unlikely. It would require internet access on the go and I don't know if Nintendo want to go down the phone network route. It didn't work for Sony with the vita.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
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There goes Western third party support.
Here comes Japanese third party support.
Here comes Japanese third party support.
That's cool and all it doesn't adress the elephant in the room which is Western 3rd party devs. That is what Nintendo lacks.
Blue Ocean. Make Japan big again.
Diprosalic
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it's a handheld, did you think it would be as powerful as a console from 2013?
not really it's a handheld with an hdmi out most likely.
Not very interested in a handheld, to be honest. Especially if it follows the trend of Nintendo being incapable of ergonomics for them.
X1 has more power than a Wii U, though. And if I can get some kind of base station always attached with a wireless controller, I'd be happy.
X1 has more power than a Wii U, though. And if I can get some kind of base station always attached with a wireless controller, I'd be happy.
In all likelihood, they're planning on porting over the bigger Wii U games to this. Smash 4 seems like a dead certainty at this point, and I imagine we'll see them do the same for Mario Maker.
Sad to see Nintendo exiting the traditional home console market.
I never play handhelds, and while the NX connects to the TV, I'd be very disappointed if its less powerful than the Wii U. I'll buy it anyway, if the games are good. I hope Nintendo will continue to bring us the same high quality experiences as they mostly did on the Wii U.
I never play handhelds, and while the NX connects to the TV, I'd be very disappointed if its less powerful than the Wii U. I'll buy it anyway, if the games are good. I hope Nintendo will continue to bring us the same high quality experiences as they mostly did on the Wii U.
This could also line up with why Emily Rogers thought it was expensive. If the dock is a breakout box that adds processing power to it it could end up being as much as the handheld itself, though not required by any means.
Angry Chair
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Hopefully. It will be disappointing if the NX is this weak.
KuwabaraTheMan
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What did the 3DS in was the putrid software lineup it had. No one was going to pay that price when there were almost no games.
This is going to be launching with Zelda, and hopefully some other high quality games, too. If it has a great lineup, I think people will be willing to pay.
gunstarhero
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That would be pretty awesome if true. WiiU level graphics on the go would be great, then plug it in at home and you get something better.
Neuromancer
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I wonder if Zelda will look any better on this via a TV than on the WiiU. I kind of doubt it.
In order for it to be maximally portable...
bobbychalkers
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The reality of new Nintendo hardware that gets the full force of their development efforts alone instead of splitting it between console and handheld is enough for me.
I'm in.
I'm in.
Tom Nook Sawyer
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I'll accept apologies from everyone who doubted my hybrid arguments, starting now
darkistheway
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A portable that I can play on TV, that outputs Wii U-level or better graphics, that gets every single Nintendo-developed game is pretty much a winner for me.
I'm stoked. Now nintendo doesn't have to split focus between a handheld and a console. Everything runs in both modes on the same device.
Nintendo's output on the Wii U may have felt underwhelming to many, but on 3DS it's another story. We have had a steady stream of really good titles. Now we may be getting a nintendo system with a really compelling level of output with all those dev teams narrowing their focus on one piece of hardware.
The third party support on the 3DS has been pretty nice if you like Japanese games. Maybe Nintendo can court smartphone/tablet developers to port their content to the NX. Could be a better strategy than trying to convince PS4/XBO devs to port to a lower powered system. But hopefully it's a bit of both.
Nintendo's output on the Wii U may have felt underwhelming to many, but on 3DS it's another story. We have had a steady stream of really good titles. Now we may be getting a nintendo system with a really compelling level of output with all those dev teams narrowing their focus on one piece of hardware.
The third party support on the 3DS has been pretty nice if you like Japanese games. Maybe Nintendo can court smartphone/tablet developers to port their content to the NX. Could be a better strategy than trying to convince PS4/XBO devs to port to a lower powered system. But hopefully it's a bit of both.
Sounds like Nintendo.
I never thought it was going to have a ton of power. Almost for sure thought they had to be going ARM this generation. They were combining OS's and having different architectures wouldn't make sense. 3ds was already ARM and had the better sales particularly in Japan which is their home market and the market that they focus first on. x86 isn't best in class in mobile architectures and so was doubtful. And Nintendo doesn't require high end graphics power for their games. Plus they were never going to try and make a PS4 clone.
Was pretty sure Nintendo was going to compete on the low end. Kids/families. Casuals.
i didn't really think it was going to be a hybrid though because of what Iwata said and because it seems like they can make a home version of this for even cheaper ...ie without the screen and battery. But Iwata's comments and a hyrbrid doesn't preclude Nintendo from doing just that and eventually coming out with a tv-only version of this. ...although then you lose some of your uniqueness and are just a streaming box with a controller.
I figured it was barely going to run Wii U games because..... They weren't going to make another expensive system nor PS4 clone. It was going to run ARM. It would either run the same games as the portable or slightly prettier versions. ....And a recent comment from Nintendo only backed that up. One of the big three in Japan that report to the CEO said (at E3 or during their last investor's report) that they are working to make Zelda be the same experience on the NX...which to me meant "porting to another platform" that doesn't have a lot of wiggle room in terms of extra processing power. ...because you don't have to work hard(relatively speaking) to port a game to a or provide a similar experience on a much more powerful platform. It seemed like an odd comment to make ...if the NX was going to have a lot more gpu power.
But for all I know this is another incestual rumor and just sourced from NeoGaf and crap read on the internets.
I never thought it was going to have a ton of power. Almost for sure thought they had to be going ARM this generation. They were combining OS's and having different architectures wouldn't make sense. 3ds was already ARM and had the better sales particularly in Japan which is their home market and the market that they focus first on. x86 isn't best in class in mobile architectures and so was doubtful. And Nintendo doesn't require high end graphics power for their games. Plus they were never going to try and make a PS4 clone.
Was pretty sure Nintendo was going to compete on the low end. Kids/families. Casuals.
i didn't really think it was going to be a hybrid though because of what Iwata said and because it seems like they can make a home version of this for even cheaper ...ie without the screen and battery. But Iwata's comments and a hyrbrid doesn't preclude Nintendo from doing just that and eventually coming out with a tv-only version of this. ...although then you lose some of your uniqueness and are just a streaming box with a controller.
I figured it was barely going to run Wii U games because..... They weren't going to make another expensive system nor PS4 clone. It was going to run ARM. It would either run the same games as the portable or slightly prettier versions. ....And a recent comment from Nintendo only backed that up. One of the big three in Japan that report to the CEO said (at E3 or during their last investor's report) that they are working to make Zelda be the same experience on the NX...which to me meant "porting to another platform" that doesn't have a lot of wiggle room in terms of extra processing power. ...because you don't have to work hard(relatively speaking) to port a game to a or provide a similar experience on a much more powerful platform. It seemed like an odd comment to make ...if the NX was going to have a lot more gpu power.
But for all I know this is another incestual rumor and just sourced from NeoGaf and crap read on the internets.
We want the D.
A multiplatform OS is a good idea..a hybrid device is not.
You combine the costs of a handheld and console... making a more expensive device that doesn't satisfy the needs of either individual market.
There were tons of 'sources' saying it wasn't a hybrid
BladeoftheImmortal
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So breath of the Wild will probably be worse on this, then.
Allnamestakenlol
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Not surprised, based on all the rumors. Not expecting complex graphics, but please, for the love of God, give us good IQ!
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