At the end of the day, we still have to consider that Nintendo's first party output is now flowing to one device that's crazy. And then consider all the usual Japanese third party suspects who are on Nintendo handhelds. The lineup could be killer.
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Eurogamer: NX = portable w/ carts, detachable controllers, Tegra, TV Out, no BC, Sept
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At the end of the day, we still have to consider that Nintendo's first party output is now flowing to one device that's crazy. And then consider all the usual Japanese third party suspects who are on Nintendo handhelds. The lineup could be killer.
YuriLowell
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Day 1.
ashbash159
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Are the 3DS games considered to be cartridges?
Just wondering what and what isn't considered a cartridge.
Just wondering what and what isn't considered a cartridge.
We just got an announcement of one
Little Monser
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The fact that we can play ZELDA BOTW on the go... HOLY SCHEIBE!!!!!
Mr. Pointy
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I can play Pokemon Gen 8 and Diamond/Pearl remake on a TV.
Already Torn
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Yup!
Yeah, agreed. (It's a shame too, I like the concept)
So same as usual?
I wonder if the two detachable controller sides wold be able to plug directly into each other for use when using the console hooked up to a tv. Would be a nice way to increase the longevity of the battery by not having to power a screen as well while in home console mode, which seemed to be a major problem with the gamepad on wii u.
Turin Turambar
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I doubt you'll be able to connect only one of the side controllers, I imagine it'll look more like one of those smartphone 3rd party controllers:
Yes, I imagine something like that, except better and not that wide.
Part left and part right will be able to join and work as normal controller, while the display (with the cpu below) can be put in the dock, and play in the tv that way.
_illmatic_
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So will we have different price brackets for titles? $60 for a traditional home console experience and $30 for a light pick up and play mobile experience?
AcademicSaucer
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It makes sense for them to exit the home console market tho, a handheld that can connect to your TV is a compromise . The market doesnt want Nintendo home consoles anymore.
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Alright, is this chip already in use somewhere and how do the games on that hardware look like?
Cow Mengde
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Wait, imagine if this thing can stream PC games! I know the Shield can do it. I think Nintendo might have hinted (could be just me mixing up rumors) that the NX can potentially connect to other devices?
THIS.
dealer-
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3DS are game cards, I assume this won't be BC for 3DS or Wii U.
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Just stick it in a neoprene sleeve. Works fine with Vita etc., and barely adds any size or weight. So unless you're one of those people always wearing baggy ass clothes with pockets that can fit a portable (especially a 3DSXL, because fuck the kiddy hand sized regular version and it's puny screen), it's a minor inconvenience at best and takes up little extra room in your bag/purse/briefcase.
IAmAnAgnostic
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Well the sales have certainly dropped. DS + PSP vastly outsold 3DS + Vita. And I am not convinced it will be an easy task to sell a new handheld this day and age. The 3DS even had a bad launch.
efyu_lemonardo
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Wouldn't it be problematic to just overclock the handheld whenever it's connected to a TV without some cooling solution?
And assuming it would be, are there any external cooling solutions out there that are genuinely effective?
Bitch Pudding
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Just according to keikaku*
*keikaku means plan.
I'd look after one of my older posts where I stated it will be a hybrid and both mobile and stationary console will share the same games library, but I guess I share that with dozens of others here...
So. Long story short, I'll buy one. Because playing the next Zelda on my train rides is a real systemseller for me.
*keikaku means plan.
I'd look after one of my older posts where I stated it will be a hybrid and both mobile and stationary console will share the same games library, but I guess I share that with dozens of others here...
So. Long story short, I'll buy one. Because playing the next Zelda on my train rides is a real systemseller for me.
The Main Event
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I like the sound of that.
Could sell the NX handheld for I don't know, 200-250 and the dock for $50-60? So you'd have a full-fledged home console in the 300 dollar range.
Serenitynow
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They are hoping for a DS as opposed to a Wii U. If they achieve it, I'm not worried about support.
Mr. Pointy
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Nvidia Shield and Google Pixel C tablet.
I'm in. Day One. Love the idea.
Knew it would be this, too! It was the only logical conclusion to the (admittedly few and far between) genuine leaks we had so far. If this thing can come in around the XB1 level of graphical power (ie ~1-1.5TFLOP) whilst staying under or around $300 I think it's a win.
Nintendo can focus all efforts on one device, most 3rd parties will likely be able to achieve relative parity between ports (for at least the next 2 years until Neo/Scorpio really take off) And the "gimmick" doesn't seem forced; It's relevant, adds value and I can see it being easy to market.
Flavour me cautiously excited
Also; sticking my neck out and saying the Tegra X1 in current kits is a placeholder for X2...
Edit: Beaten by article. Sounds like its currently actively cooled, which adds more creedance the the above theory of 'X2 placeholder'.
Knew it would be this, too! It was the only logical conclusion to the (admittedly few and far between) genuine leaks we had so far. If this thing can come in around the XB1 level of graphical power (ie ~1-1.5TFLOP) whilst staying under or around $300 I think it's a win.
Nintendo can focus all efforts on one device, most 3rd parties will likely be able to achieve relative parity between ports (for at least the next 2 years until Neo/Scorpio really take off) And the "gimmick" doesn't seem forced; It's relevant, adds value and I can see it being easy to market.
Flavour me cautiously excited
Also; sticking my neck out and saying the Tegra X1 in current kits is a placeholder for X2...
Edit: Beaten by article. Sounds like its currently actively cooled, which adds more creedance the the above theory of 'X2 placeholder'.
This is a 2 year old chip that Mosley
Mostly plays mobile games and 4 year old games
I'm pleased enough that i won't have to buy all the doubled-up franchises anymore.
I've got no idea how they're going to design this thing to NOT look like a Wii U Gamepad though. For it to be comfortable in both configs, it has to be about the same size, so you're essentially looking at the same thing just with the sides cut off:
Gotta repurposes those parts somehow! Knowing their past marketing efforts, they'd probably walk right into an identity nightmare like this too.
It'd be better if the sides were identical and could attach left or right though - effectively including 2 simple controllers in the box.
Watch Nintendo put "Wii" in the name again
Nintendo is interested in selling games to you.
If this streams PC games I'll
You got SONIC, SONIC, SONIC, SONIC!
SEGAvangelist
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So it's a portable with no Wii U backwards compatibility? I'm officially out now.
Aceofspades
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Nvidia screwed Microsoft in the original Xbox, Screwed Sony with PS3 GPU and now it's nintendo turn.
I swear Nintendo is like the most out of touch company in history, how hard can it be to produce a system that is plenty powerful (ensure 3rd party ports) plus having Nintendo priceless IPs. its not that hard nor that expensive BUT no...lets seek an already shrinking market (handhelds) and get some of that PHONE marketshare, guess what.... people buy smartphones to make calls first, browse internet second ...and maybe game on it third. NX is not a phone, won't sell like a phone and won't sell to hardcore either.
And in a few years we will have a post mortem on why NX failed, and we will hear that someone at Nintendo said that NX should sell a billion units like iphone 7 or whatever.
I swear Nintendo is like the most out of touch company in history, how hard can it be to produce a system that is plenty powerful (ensure 3rd party ports) plus having Nintendo priceless IPs. its not that hard nor that expensive BUT no...lets seek an already shrinking market (handhelds) and get some of that PHONE marketshare, guess what.... people buy smartphones to make calls first, browse internet second ...and maybe game on it third. NX is not a phone, won't sell like a phone and won't sell to hardcore either.
And in a few years we will have a post mortem on why NX failed, and we will hear that someone at Nintendo said that NX should sell a billion units like iphone 7 or whatever.
That's not untrue. But if Nintendo is moving from two distinct platforms to one platform that can predominantly be characterised as a portable (that happens to have TV out), then this certainly is a matter of consolidation from two business lines to one, and I think of those two prior businesses it seems like handheld has the priority.
Maybe this isn't the full story, maybe there is in fact another separate dedicated home system. Or maybe the dock does make it a substantially different proposition at home. But if not, to me it feels like we're not getting a 'proper' home system next time around.
ashbash159
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That's such a cool idea and theory.
What I get from this is that the screen is flanked on the left by the d-pad/analog stick and the right side by the face buttons and the two detatch and presumably reattach as one controller? The wording is so bad, I really need to see this thing because the most obvious way to do this would be to have it be a clamshell with the bottom detaching to form the controller.
Ubisoft japanese now?
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