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WSJ: NX will be "compatible with" Nintendo's Mobile games, is handheld/console hybrid

M3d10n

Member
If this is true Nintendo would be out of their minds to not support mobile internet on this.

It's not that simple, I think. It increases hardware certification requirements by a large margin, which would reflect on the cost. Just look at the difference in prices between 3G and wifi-only tablets.

A middle ground could be being able to tether to a smartphone via bluetooth.
 

imjust1n

Banned
what if...one part of it is a cellphone that can have attachable controllers and can take cartridges and also be placed in a dock to play on your big screen tv. BUT when they are saying the Device is gonna be cheap I feel like the cellphone theory is thrown out unless its like a mid ranged smartphone. Idk so many flying rumors some make sense some just dont so who even knows anymore I thin the NX will be a awesome device. When I first saw the WIIu I freaked out because I was like oh cool the concept is a great idea so im sure I will do the same with NX
 
Running around the neighbourhood with smartphone on my hand is silly enough. I don't want to be seen running around the neighbourhood with a 7" tablet catching rattatas.
 

megasus

Member
Why does this Info lead people to believe that nx will be 3 platforms in 1?
Doesn't this just mean that they'll port their mobile games to nx - which would be obvious?
 

bs135

Member
If the dock doesn't boost the processing power of the NX, this is just a handheld with TV out and Nintendo's exit from home console gaming.
 
Remember that they straight up told us mobile games were going to be companions to NX software. So it really doesn't mean the NX will legit play these games while requiring a data plan.
 
Makes sense for Nintendo and it may very well be their best course of action going forward.

The more I think about it though, I don't think it's something I'm personally all that interested in. The NX really does feel like Nintendo's exit from home console gaming. But since Nintendo still wants some of those consumers, it also includes the ability to play on the TV. But it's clearly being designed as a mobile platform above all.

I guess it's really going to come down to software. I don't see a scenario where Nintendo creates many more Breath of the Wild-esque experiences., but hey, who knows.
 

TunaLover

Member
Remember that they straight up told us mobile games were going to be companions to NX software. So it really doesn't mean the NX will legit play these games while requiring a data plan.
Yeah, I think we are reading too much into it, it will end being compatible with MyNintendo to unlock stuff on NX, and that's it.
 

MisterHero

Super Member
If the dock doesn't boost the processing power of the NX, this is just a handheld with TV out and Nintendo's exit from home console gaming.
But their console teams will probably still make console-budget games. So whT does this even mean
 

TunaLover

Member
Makes sense for Nintendo and it may very well be their best course of action going forward.

The more I think about it though, I don't think it's something I'm personally all that interested in. The NX really does feel like Nintendo's exit from home console gaming. But since Nintendo still wants some of those consumers, it also includes the ability to play on the TV. But it's clearly being designed as a mobile platform above all.

I guess it's really going to come down to software. I don't see a scenario where Nintendo creates many more Breath of the Wild-esque experiences., but hey, who knows.
That's quite sad way to put it :c
 

Inuhanyou

Believes Dragon Quest is a franchise managed by Sony
I don't like mobile games and it worries me that they're even mentioned in the same breath as a real console.

this is a new concept though. Having mobile games on a console like this would net Nintendo a huge amount of profit. Also, its kind of strange saying because you don't like something, it should not exist on the platform at all. I don't like online only MMO's, i don't say they should not exist
 

StereoVsn

Member
Nintendo is too prideful to do that. You'll get a proprietary janky ass OS that has .1% of the apps available on Android.
Most likely they will do what Amazon did with their Fire OS, I.e. Formed Android and updates at major Google milestone releases. At least that would be the logical thing to do. You wouldn't get Google Play store but it would be fairly easy for devs to port since it's still Android and ARM combo (if Tegra rumor is correct). Especially a lot of Japanese devs and publishers would be quite happy, like Level-5, Capcom, SE, Sega, Gung-Ho, etc...

It would also be easy to support it in the major 3rd party engines like Unity and Unreal.

Edit: Think of somewhat higher end Fire tablet except with good games and controllers. Hell, they could do a deal with Amazon for content since Amazon is huge in the West and in Japan. Kindle app for NX could be interesting.
 

MuchoMalo

Banned
Well, now the hybrid rumor is 100% confirmed. I'm still not sure if I'm, buying at launch. Since Zelda probably won't look or run any better on NX, buying a Wii U for it might be the better purchase if I can get a refurbished one for cheap.

And the mobile games rumor... I doubt that it includes Pokemon Go. This thing isn't going to have a cell radio or GPS.
 

bs135

Member
But their console teams will probably still make console-budget games. So whT does this even mean

I expect that without a proper console their dev teams will be quickly shifting their focus away from console budget games towards handheld and mobile budget games.
 

jroc74

Phone reception is more important to me than human rights
Hate to keep bringing up the Vita but the mobile games on it were from their own store. They were available on other mobile platforms but you couldn't just grab an Android or iOS game and load it up. It had to come from the PS mobile section on the Vita.

It didn't run Android AFAIK.

So I wouldnt expect to have access to the millions of mobile games out there. Unless every dev ported it to the NX.

Then there are the mobile apps. Again, same thing as above.
 

StereoVsn

Member
And the mobile games rumor... I doubt that it includes Pokemon Go. This thing isn't going to have a cell radio or GPS.
I am glad someone in Nintendo's hardware team monitors neogaf.

Why couldn't it have GPS? Why couldn't Nintendo partner with say Verizon and ATT and have an LTE module for data down the line? They could have a model with LTE for say $80 more a few months post release. GPS is fairly cheap now days.
 

Asd202

Member
Makes sense for Nintendo and it may very well be their best course of action going forward.

The more I think about it though, I don't think it's something I'm personally all that interested in. The NX really does feel like Nintendo's exit from home console gaming. But since Nintendo still wants some of those consumers, it also includes the ability to play on the TV. But it's clearly being designed as a mobile platform above all.

I guess it's really going to come down to software. I don't see a scenario where Nintendo creates many more Breath of the Wild-esque experiences., but hey, who knows.

I agree for the most part game design wise they'll be looking at the portable playstyle not home console experiences.
 

MisterHero

Super Member
I expect that without a proper console their dev teams will be quickly shifting their focus away from console budget games towards handheld and mobile budget games.
I expect them to reign in their dev costs, but not to shrink the scope of their big series. They're too big for that.
 
As far as I'm concerned, this is a handheld with TV out, and the only thing that's "hybrid" about it is that it's combining both of Nintendo's business lines.

I'd personally call that a consolidation, but I imagine Nintendo likes the hybrid messaging more since it sounds a lot better than "We dumped our console line."

So what would a true hybrid look like to you? Or do you think that's a meaningless term?
 

Yoshi

Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
So I'll be able to play that Fire Emblem phone game afterall. Good. With WSJ confirming the "NX is a hybrid" thing, it is more or less officially confirmed. It'll be interesting to see how Nintendo manages to balance the two aspects (battery and price vs. performance).
 
So I'll be able to play that Fire Emblem phone game afterall. Good. With WSJ confirming the "NX is a hybrid" thing, it is more or less officially confirmed. It'll be interesting to see how Nintendo manages to balance the two aspects (battery and price vs. performance).

NX is a chimera.
 
How likely is it the device wlll at least somehow be cell data compatible? If it's going to be app centric to at least a significant degree it'd be nice if you didn't have to use local wifi every time you want to buy an app or a smaller size game, could also help with people on the go who want to make occasional impulse buys.

A double post is harder to discern when it's separated by 5 posts in-between in the span of minutes.

It's really only hard to discern with a lack of common sense and simple awareness of the various non-deliberate reasons why most double posts occur.
 

Aostia

El Capitan Todd
As far as I'm concerned, this is a handheld with TV out, and the only thing that's "hybrid" about it is that it's combining both of Nintendo's business lines.

I'd personally call that a consolidation, but I imagine Nintendo likes the hybrid messaging more since it sounds a lot better than "We dumped our console line."


So we agree.
If the nx is just what eurogamer leaked they are not developing a hybrid but a portable with a hdmi cable.
 

StereoVsn

Member
I think what people are missing is that NX is the start of the new platform. They could fairly easily make a stationary "console" with Tegra X2, active cooling and 15-20W TDP for end of 2017/start of 2018 that would be significantly more powerful but utilize same OS, accessories, online infarstructure and run all the games.

Hybrid NX would be the start but Nintendo would have a chance to rapidly improve if so desired (and of there is a demand).

Capability to play mobile games and perhaps other Android apps, browse online, have say Kindle, Netflix, etc... could entice people in addition to only game playing. People buy tablets still and it's a good play for Nintendo to appeal to those people.
 
If big games like the new Zelda sell well on this thing, Nintendo will keep making them.

Well yeah, I'm not too worried about IP like Zelda or Xenoblade. Those franchises will likely still receive traditional, big budget experiences.

I'm more worried about pretty much everything else, including new IP. As a primarily mobile device, games are going to be tailor made with that in mind. The base station is likely just included to ease the transition out of the home console market. I would have to imagine the vast majority of games will be developed with portability in mind.
 

Yoshi

Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
So we agree.
If the nx is just what eurogamer leaked they are not developing a hybrid but a portable with a hdmi cable.

I think there is one difference that is important. I would call it a hybrid, rather than a handheld with HDMI out, if it, in addition to LAN-type multiplayer, offers local multiplayer with several controllers and only one NX device. Then it's a full (though probably technically weak) game console and also a full (though probably expensive and with a low battery power) handheld.
 
I can't imagine, with children as one of their key markets, that Nintendo will require a monthly mobile data plan with the NX -- will they sell a wifi and a 4G version? Will mobile data be subsidized?

NX is shaping up to be interesting as hell.
 

Aostia

El Capitan Todd
That really depends on whether the dock has some tech in it.

If the SCD will be in, it will be hybrid.
so far we know that it just plus into your tv.

I think there is one difference that is important. I would call it a hybrid, rather than a handheld with HDMI out, if it, in addition to LAN-type multiplayer, offers local multiplayer with several controllers and only one NX device. Then it's a full (though probably technically weak) game console and also a full (though probably expensive and with a low battery power) handheld.

In that way it sounds...bad.
A weak console and an expensive portable with low battery
 

phanphare

Banned
expected and a great move for them. Nintendo needs to position itself so that their platforms are where mobile gamers will "graduate" to, so to speak, if they're looking for more. having all of their mobile stuff be compatible on NX makes that an easier transition.
 
It is a hybrid in that it is meant to replace their handheld and console lines.

That it doesn't replace the console line to your satisfaction doesn't invalidate what it is.
 
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