Right. Rather than outright answering the question with 'no, there is no multiplayer', they say vague, ambiguous statements like 'well the odds of that are so slim...'
This is the perfect example of why people were confused.
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No Man's Sky - Early Impressions/Reviews-in-progress Thread
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Right. Rather than outright answering the question with 'no, there is no multiplayer', they say vague, ambiguous statements like 'well the odds of that are so slim...'
This is the perfect example of why people were confused.
Nocturno999
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I knew this was going to be apologists' final card.
Maybe you aren't one. But this is the excuse that many people will make to deny NMS's design issues.
As far as I know they only ever said that you might get into a dog fight with another player instead if a NPC. I wouldn't be surprised if there no net code for planets and trading hubs
VlaudTheImpaler
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As well as ssaying that the chances of being in the same place as others in a galaxy this big was slim to none.
I mean he was constantly talking about how big space was. Everyone was always laughing at people who where planning on meeting up because of how it would pretty much be futile because of how long it would take to even simply get to the same system let alone station or something of another player.
The only thing I can think is that the game is starting everyone off in roughly the same spot in the galaxy...
LOL, apologist? No, I am simply enjoying the same game that I have been shown this entire time. If I felt misled or hated it I would fucking say so.
depths20XX
Member
They never saw each other's ship. Just NPC's
Actually it's supposed to be the opposite according to the polygon article. No combat with players. Only interaction:
""I ask Murray how other players figure in this game. He says it's not an MMO. You might see other players on the surface of planets, and you may be able to interact with them on a basic level, but there will be no combat or trading. "It's a bit like Journey," he explains.""
DeepEnigma
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They both parked in the station and said they saw the ship... he even tried shooting at the other ship that was dead stopped in space leaving the space station.
Thanks! Am hoping to pick this up in uk if the price comes down (eBay). For me the steelbook is bizarre though - it doesn't showcase the gorgeous look of the gameJust in case anyone is curious about the Limited Edition content, I've got some impressions here:
http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/s...ans-sky-limited-edition-ps4-impressions/33994
I always took it as meaning it was pretty much a single player game, with sharing functions. That is the impression I always got and that is what the game is.
Khalifa Jayy
Banned
That's completely beside the point.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Same here.
Turns out it isn't like Journey either.
https://twitter.com/NoMansSky/status/762688708764135425
Not sure how much clearer they could be. Theyve said this multiple times. There's some fun stuff they're trying with asynchronous stuff, but thats it.
To be fair he only tweeted that yesterday.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Now cut that out mister.
SecondVariety
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Yes, the Steelbook is stark, but the box it all comes in (the inner box) is nice. The inside of Steelbook is nice as well.
Exactly. If you were still expecting some mmo or something after all this time then that is on you.
depths20XX
Member
They both saw enemy ships maybe. I'm not sure what you're quoting from but I've been watching and they have yet to see each other, ship or pilot.
All this time? That was yesterday.
Future PhaZe
Member
why compare it to journey though?
omfg. They weren't clear at all. Read my post history whenever I've discussed No Man's Sky. I've been asking for fucking months 'I know this isn't multiplayer, but they've discussed how you can bump into people. I'm confused, since whenever it's brought up they only talk about percentage chances. Will we be able to actually see people on planets?'
Almost everyone I talked to reverted back to the percentages, or assumed that yes we would be able to see each other. Now it's 'clear as day' that isn't the case? Well that's news to me and a ton of others.
Supposedly you can bump into players doing their own thing, but it hasn't been seen yet.
Complicated
Banned
They're both standing outside the same outpost on the same planet and can't see each other. It's not even the same time of day on the planet for both of them...
Not if two people in the same system are in different servers, because the focus is not on coordinated MP.
Dark souls and Demons Souls had the same issues with their asynchronous MP because you were never meant to team up with specific people. Only randomly. They eventually caved and allowed it, but their original design had to be worked around by spamming soul signs.
Anyways, stop claiming that the developers claimed something they did not. They never said you can meet up with your friends. They did say there was a infitensily small chance you might, but realistically the chance is zero.
lol
Also, same location same time:
http://imgur.com/a/klomu
It appears their day/night cycles are different too, so there is definitely no syncing. Different instances or all done locally.
And yet they have been saying all this time that seeing another player would be pretty much impossible and that it is intended to be a single player experience with sharing features. Not once did they ever tout some big multiplayer experience with demos of people meeting.
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
Yea, there's zero excuse for this.
Why wait until the day before release to clearly state there is no multiplayer experience? Just created unnecessary confusion.
Don't recall ever seeing that language until this tweet. It was always "very very very unlikely". Those are not the same thing. Stop trying to conflate the two.
He probably underestimated the odds of people running into eachother or how much effort they'd actually give to do it. Turns out it's not actually possible at all. Should've just flat out said, nah doesn't work that way.
jesus Christ, so say it's zero. Don't say "the game is like Journey", and be cheeky about it.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Give it man people made their minds up long ago
Nocturno999
Member
Well, I can't see that happening unless they make an "invasion" system like Dark Souls. Since a single player has a personal procedure generated universe.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
I am impressed the creatures are moving in the same location... though one has a sky, other more rock-face above?
They moved on to the 'LIARS' stage.
I always approached this game as a solitary "interconnected" game, and never expected to run across other people.
But I guess I can understand that some people are disappointed that we can't interact with other players if we were to run into them. That was, after all, what HG said in previous interviews.
But I guess I can understand that some people are disappointed that we can't interact with other players if we were to run into them. That was, after all, what HG said in previous interviews.
There is a big difference between 'pretty much impossible' and just 'impossible', and they knew that distinction and they straddled it. And everyone here is wondering why we are confused.
Yeah I wish they could have been a bit open regarding all that. I mean multiplayer isn't a must for me personally, I even played Elite in solo mode.
I'm still getting it at some point if the PC port is good. But this isn't a good look imo.
randomengine
Banned
Oh thank god. Multiplayer would be a nightmare in this game. I am glad it isn't implemented.
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
This is what I suspect as well. But honestly never leave a challenge up to the internet. They will find a way to make the statistically improbable happen.
Should have come forward earlier and just said "nah man."
Well, not that Hello games were really clear duringg this period, they were pretty vague saing it ALMOST impossible instead of saying a simple no, that's impossible.
They have been clear. Maybe you mean commenters here were not?
Infinitesimally Small means a non-zero chance. But good luck. Not that hard people.
Two people probably need to be in the same system on the same server. Because, this isn't a MP game.
Yes, how hard is it to say it's not possible at all?
BlitzEngineer
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I feel like I could see this coming from a mile away. I'd see people on reddit and other forums talking about the game's systems, with ridiculous scale and intricacy, and just be baffled because every single gameplay video they released boiled down to a relatively shallow survival experience where the main focus was really just exploring and discovering new things. The people deep on the hype train were talking about a game that to my mind didn't seem to exist.
Maybe the marketing gives the "Just the tip of the iceberg" impression off a little strongly, but when it comes to this stuff I generally feel that what you see is what you get; I never built out some grandiose expectation for what this game was because what I actually saw seems to be essentially what the game is. And I kinda think I'll dig it, but if I approached it with hyped up expectations I think I would be disappointed to.
I won't make silly generalizations like "If they thought the game was something other than what it is, they are idiots", but just speaking for myself, nothing about these early impressions has surprised me. This is exactly the game I was expecting from the jump, and it seems pretty rad, and an incredible base to build from with post-launch support. That said, my expectations came almost entirely from actual gameplay videos and not from absurd echo chamber reddit threads.
I just hope the Hello Games guys don't let the divisiveness get them down. Maybe they could've marketed better, but now just accept that the game you made, while great and unique, is not for everyone and just ignore the negativity and vitriol this game will get from communities and critics who let their imagination run wild. You made something great for what it actually is, so fuck the haters and just keep making it better.
Maybe the marketing gives the "Just the tip of the iceberg" impression off a little strongly, but when it comes to this stuff I generally feel that what you see is what you get; I never built out some grandiose expectation for what this game was because what I actually saw seems to be essentially what the game is. And I kinda think I'll dig it, but if I approached it with hyped up expectations I think I would be disappointed to.
I won't make silly generalizations like "If they thought the game was something other than what it is, they are idiots", but just speaking for myself, nothing about these early impressions has surprised me. This is exactly the game I was expecting from the jump, and it seems pretty rad, and an incredible base to build from with post-launch support. That said, my expectations came almost entirely from actual gameplay videos and not from absurd echo chamber reddit threads.
I just hope the Hello Games guys don't let the divisiveness get them down. Maybe they could've marketed better, but now just accept that the game you made, while great and unique, is not for everyone and just ignore the negativity and vitriol this game will get from communities and critics who let their imagination run wild. You made something great for what it actually is, so fuck the haters and just keep making it better.
randomengine
Banned
How hard is it to say, "meh" and move on with your lives?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
I would like to think if that is their true intention, they would just say it. So I am still on the side of caution where this is a bug/implementation/syncing issue they need iron out more. Just did not take priority for launch. Hell, it could have been something that popped up from the 1.03 patch.
My opinion is, let people believe they have a small chance of see each other to generate more hype that simply say "no, that's impossible"
What's also possible is that currently it's bugged and doesn't properly put people in the lobby as he explained it before.
Or it could just be servers overloaded because day 1?
I'm not going to draw the conclusion yet it's simply not in the game. A bit too prematurely imo.
3rdamention
Member
Looks like the little "online easter eggs" Sean was referencing is being able to hear someone through chat if they are close to you?
Thats about it, it seems.
Thats about it, it seems.
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