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GAFer is data mining through No Man's Sky (PC)
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Nightengale
Member
The whole 'skittiness on exclusivity thing' is weird.
Over at Europe, NMS is promoted as a "console exclusive", and many marketing material has the console exclusive label which was given to SFV.
Over at America, NMS marketing doesn't mention any form of exclusivity.
Over at Europe, NMS is promoted as a "console exclusive", and many marketing material has the console exclusive label which was given to SFV.
Over at America, NMS marketing doesn't mention any form of exclusivity.
dragonbane
Member
Yup. Especially since I never had a game with MP yet where there wasn't some MP folder somewhere or some files including the tag. At least there should be more player characters/textures or some UI art.
Yeah its really there under "Testing". I guess it was some rendering test and the guy responsible found it funny to use this particular logo
Usually there is both. Even in the case of NMS you would think there would be some assets for MP like player character variations, UI art etc.
dragonbane
Member
EDIT: Double
Hugo_Peters
Neo Member
Hi all, I wanted to stress that I haven't seen everything yet, but on the surface I can't see any hints to multiplayer features, but I haven't dug (deep) into things like the executable of the game yet, so I can't anything for sure at this point.
I reversed the model format and wrote my own parser, I'll release it soon open source probably.
I reversed the model format and wrote my own parser, I'll release it soon open source probably.
TimeEffect
Member
Who made the game $60? Sony?
Blam
Member
Ahh yeah that would be great. I've just been repacking the files using total commander. I've modified quite a lot of shit through the game sorta sucks that they needed to pregenerate all of the content they had shown during events and stuff like that.
I've went through all the files, replaced the default save (because the game comes with a bunch of cheated save files). Tried setting on the debug functions. Because they are all still in the game.
I'd imagine that decision was ultimately Hello's given it funded development itself.
Elfforkusu
Member
Who cares?
This is pretty neat stuff. I don't see it as an indictment of the development process
lol), just a sign that cleanup of extra assets that wasn't prioritized in favor of "get it out the door". Or maybe it was left in intentionally? Or maybe it was something as silly as, the build box doesn't clean up obsolete folders...Hugo_Peters
Neo Member
funkystudent
Member
Just making sure I wasnt crazy but after a quick google I think in Europe SFV doesnt have the console exclusive badge on it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3TNvhM4bq4
Maybe Sony is a bit all over the place with its box labelling?
Anyway for the longest time NMS had the whole "making its console debut on PS4" line at every demo event. Maybe their exclusive deal is longer then most but its totally a timed deal.
TheSpoiler
Member
How long would it feasibly take to find any multiplayer files at all?
I hate the fact that I get that reference now
Enter the Dragon Punch
Banned
TheSpoiler
Member
Sounds like the amount of time it'll take to get a straight answer.
dragonbane
Member
lmao. This is real!?
VlaudTheImpaler
tl;dr
Yo, where's that NMS Crowbcat video you where talking about? Is it going to be different than this one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE0nuW-mQ8A
Blam
Member
Who cares?
This is pretty neat stuff. I don't see it as an indictment of the development process
Because it's useless shit, that really doesn't need to be there. I mean seriously. Ubisoft did the same thing with Watch_Dogs that thing has so many fucking versions of each function you could probably drop that thing back into their first working prototype.
TheSpoiler
Member
I think he was waiting for confirmation.
LelouchZero
Member
What on planet Crackachu is this? LMAO!
AcademicSaucer
Member
Ayy lmao
VlaudTheImpaler
tl;dr
I'm pretty sure stuff like that happens all the time. I haven't bought the game yet, probably going to wait for a sale because of the PC issues and waiting to see if modding is indeed in but if it is I would sure like to see modders put that space whale in at some point!
whatevermort
Member
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Visualante2
Member
Does the source code concern shaders only? If so why exactly are we expecting references to multiplayer in them?
Netherscourge
Banned
Man, the game code is more bizarre than the game itself.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
You can pause the game. Of course there is no multiplayer.
Hugo_Peters
Neo Member
I wasn't referencing the shader code, instead I meant the game's executable (exe) for strings (debug, identifiers, etc) regarding multiplayer. Considering there's a lot of string you'd expect some of them to concern multiplayer, but so far I can't find anything.
BumblebeeCody
Member
Is this some sort of meta-gameplay where you mine the game so far that you end up mining the code?
Blam
Member
There is no mention of MP. I have checked everything. It's not there and never was. They also said the engine was in house. But it's actually a modified version of Unity.
It's not there. I spent all night looking looking and documenting each pak file. None of them has anything MP related in them.
It's not there. I spent all night looking looking and documenting each pak file. None of them has anything MP related in them.
Netherscourge
Banned
Doesn't mean anything.
If everyone is in their own instance you can pause your own instance.
Bruno_Arrais85
Member
Yes i saw one
Hugo_Peters
Neo Member
Are you sure about this? I did see references to NGui which is a Unity-only GUI library, but that's about it.
Ploid 3.0
Member
Portal mod please.
Enter the Dragon Punch
Banned
read the description of that video, he says he's making a full length video soon
Messofanego
Banned
No Man's Sky |OT2| Ate A Bug, It Gave Me Diarrhea
exmachina64
Banned
sandkiller
Member
The list of locations displayed during the intro cinematic is stored in a plain list:
Maybe a minor thing but it really annoys me. I was under the impression Sean said those names were actual player discoveries being shown...
exmachina64
Banned
Maybe a minor thing but it really annoys me. I was under the impression Sean said those names where actual player discoveries being shown...
He probably did.
Blam
Member
Yeah it's Unity. If you go check any of the .mbin files for anything it usually says like GuiTextData, or anything like that. or GuiLayerData. All things which are unity related. That IMGUI is also unity related.
Uh and in one video they show a screenshot of their engine screen and it highly resembles Unitys.
VlaudTheImpaler
tl;dr
Gosh darnit, I... don't know how I missed that. Thanks!
He probably lied as well.
Netherscourge
Banned
People need to stop referring to it as traditional multiplayer.
If NMS only simply allows you to see someone else, and nothing else, it may not be traditional MP code in the usual places or format.
Basically, you have to figure out if your Coordinates, XYZ, are being transmitted to NMS servers. You also have to figure out if it's in real time or just periodic.
Chances are, there are no ships involved either. So, you'd both probably wouldn't appear until you were out of your ship and on foot.
So, basically, the most basic data that only NEEDS to be transmitted is your X, Y, Z coordinates and when you are on-foot, a simple 0 or 1 modifier. That's the data I would search for.
If NMS only simply allows you to see someone else, and nothing else, it may not be traditional MP code in the usual places or format.
Basically, you have to figure out if your Coordinates, XYZ, are being transmitted to NMS servers. You also have to figure out if it's in real time or just periodic.
Chances are, there are no ships involved either. So, you'd both probably wouldn't appear until you were out of your ship and on foot.
So, basically, the most basic data that only NEEDS to be transmitted is your X, Y, Z coordinates and when you are on-foot, a simple 0 or 1 modifier. That's the data I would search for.