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Discoveries possibly not being saved in No Man's Sky

Loudninja

Member
I"m gonna blame this on a bug...

I notice that the "Server Available" indicator or whatever in the lower left of the Options menu is sometimes up and sometimes down... when down, if you return to your origin planet it would not be able to grab the discoveries and everything would appear as non-discovered.

On your own system, it may only save the last X discoveries, but it would need to get the data from the server to display anything older than that.

This sounds like a non-issue. Just perhaps confusing to some.



This too. If you discovered something while servers were unreachable, and then you eventually discovered X more things, your own system would need to scrap your original discovery with the intent of retrieving the data from server if you returned to that location. But if your discovery couldn't upload to the server at the time, it is lost.

Makes perfect sense. Not a big deal, just sucks that it needs to happen.
Yeah also if you died before you save it wont stuff wont uploaded either.
 

blacklotus

Member
I wonder.

Can a developer really survive/surmount this kind of negativity? I've never seen this kind of reaction on this forum.


The Order?

And there were no lies from the developer there, just plain ultra dated gameplay mechanics on a really short game that was over hyped by the lack of exclusives and an incredible graphic detail.
 

Jebusman

Banned
Question: If you were to play entirely offline, does it record/store your discoveries locally? I know you can still "upload" them for the credit, but does it actually save anything?
 

Seiniyta

Member
I'm 230 planets and 74 star systems in, went back to my first planet, everything was still uploaded and discovered like it should be.

What I suspect happens is that the server is what keeps track of all the planets you've discovered and doesn't endlessly save it locally to keep the filesize down (especially on PS4 I can see that being important)

However, early at launch the servers were hammered so some might not have gone through.
 

Lothars

Member
I wonder.

Can a developer really survive/surmount this kind of negativity? I've never seen this kind of reaction on this forum.
Really? There's multiple examples of negativity like this that blew over which is exactly what will happen here.
 

Loudninja

Member
I'm 230 planets and 74 star systems in, went back to my first planet, everything was still uploaded and discovered like it should be.

What I suspect happens is that the server is what keeps track of all the planets you've discovered and doesn't endlessly save it locally to keep the filesize down (especially on PS4 I can see that being important)

However, early at launch the servers were hammered so some might not have gone through.
Yeah someone in the other topic said all but 2 were saved which was launch week I think
 

rhandino

Banned
I wonder.

Can a developer really survive/surmount this kind of negativity? I've never seen this kind of reaction on this forum.
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Really? There's multiple examples of negativity like this that blew over which is exactly what will happen here.
The type of negativity matters.

A game under-delivering on mechanics and fun factor is not the same as a game where the dev lies to your face while selling you a product.

Both have very different consequences.
 

faridmon

Member
You know, all these problems would not be problems if the game was 40 bucks. The fact that it was a 60 dollar game just boogles my mind.
 

Lothars

Member
The type of negativity matters.

A game under-delivering on mechanics and fun factor is not the same as a game where the dev lies to your face while selling you a product.

Both have very different consequences.
The ultimate determining factor of this game is how it's supported, if it continously gets supported and turns around than that won't matter at all to 99% of the negativity.
 

Kremzeek

Member
Well, people are discovering other people's planets with named discoveries. I wonder if it has anything to do with the server issues in the first couple of weeks.

Yeah it's probably the server issue.
I've run into 2 planets already where someone else had already claimed and named 75% of the animals already.
I claimed the rest very quickly and... PROFIT!
 

magawolaz

Member
There's something strange about the uploads for sure, yesterday I renamed and uploaded a planet right before realizing I spelled the name wrong. Decided to go back to a previous save to see if I could fix it, and the planet had its original name, so I managed to rename it and upload it again.



Still, he could have uploaded it when the servers were offline... I remember doing that and still getting Units for the upload.
 

Kai Dracon

Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Okay so like, yes even with all its problems I have enjoyed playing No Man's Sky. It does sound like this could be a bug. It had better be as this was one of the core concepts of the game.

But man, the ride for this game just makes me feel like...

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"Was nothing real?"

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"You were. That's what made you so good to watch playing the game."

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"I'll be in Elite: Dangerous while you patch your shit."
 

flkraven

Member
You know, all these problems would not be problems if the game was 40 bucks. The fact that it was a 60 dollar game just boogles my mind.

It really should have been an early access game. All of these problems in an early access game would be par for the course and wouldn't be discussed as much as there are.
 

Fersis

It is illegal to Tag Fish in Tag Fishing Sanctuaries by law 38.36 of the GAF Wildlife Act
Can the negative threads be considered User Generated Content?

Sean Murray: "WELL HAVE UGC FEATURES AT LAUNCH!!!111!11"
 

Tall4Life

Member
Research in real life occasionally gets thrown out or lost. They're just replicating reality, I don't see how this is a problem.
 

sandkiller

Member
If this is true... Fuuuuuuuck. :((

There you go naming planets after your loved ones hoping it would stay like that forever...
 

Eumi

Member
I can't wait until 2 weeks later we discover that planets are also faked and the game isn't even really a game, just an elaborate animated gif.
 

mnz

Unconfirmed Member
I always wondered how they could update this game, add new things or change something like the creature creator without destroying the whole old universe and making a new one. Which would then basically erase every single experience players had so far.

But if it can't actually remember old discoveries it won't matter anyway, I guess.
 

wrowa

Member
The ultimate determining factor of this game is how it's supported, if it continously gets supported and turns around than that won't matter at all to 99% of the negativity.

I don't think it matters anymore. The vast majority of the people who stopped playing and feel burnt by NMS won't get back to it, even if Hello Games adds a ton of content and fixes NMS' problems. They had their chance, they didn't use it.

However, I don't think this will hurt HG all that much. Yeah, people will be more skeptical of their next game, but whatever they'll do next will get tons of attention regardless. Other indies can only dream of being as well-known as Hello Games. And, in the end, people paying attention to you is one of the most important aspects of being an indie developer. No one will care whether NMS was a disappointment or not if there next game looks/is cool.
 

pj

Banned
The game is kelly bundy. It can only learn so much at one time! Learn one new thing and the old thing gets forced out.

Wtf. I used this exact random ass reference with a friend yesterday.

I even spent 5 minutes finding a crappy gif of it

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Guess I'm not the only one that made an impression on 25 years ago
 

IvanJ

Banned
I wish I could say that I care. But I never intend to come back to this game, let alone my starting planet. Luckily, I named the bare minimum of discoveries, so nothing much was lost.
The game is deleted, might as well delete all evidence of me playing from the server as well.
 
I find it fascinating how, weeks after the game's release, people keep discovering ways in which the game is broken. Perhaps that's what they meant when they said there was a lot to discover in the game? I would be lying if I didn't find this whole circus fascinatingly entertainment.

"nobody is going to notice this until we've sold a million copies" game design.

FTFY.
 
I stepped off my spaceship and looked around. It was an unnamed planet but felt all too familiar. The gravity felt the same as that planet I had once visited but that's just because every planet's gravity is the same in this game.

As I walked around, I spotted an animal I recognized. It was unnamed. "Wow. Independent origins of life have created the same animal," I thought. "This is huge for the scientific community."

But now I know that it was literally the same animal on the same planet because Sean can't stop lying through his teeth. If anyone finds an animal named "Li'l Dipshit" or a plant named "Stinkytoots" on planet "SeanNeverLied XXXVI", let me know. That will be step one in Sean's redemption.
 

Gold_Loot

Member
I'm 230 planets and 74 star systems in, went back to my first planet, everything was still uploaded and discovered like it should be.

What I suspect happens is that the server is what keeps track of all the planets you've discovered and doesn't endlessly save it locally to keep the filesize down (especially on PS4 I can see that being important)

However, early at launch the servers were hammered so some might not have gone through.

Exactly what it is, but it's alot easier to scream conspiracy , because reasons.
 
I'm kind of beginning to get the impression that Hello Games used the vastness and size of this game to make a lot of promises that weren't true, and just hoped nobody would discover it right away because everyone was a quadrillion planets away from actually running into each other.
 
I know I'm never going back to this game, let alone the original planets I discovered.

So I guess I shouldn't be disappointed then? :-(
 

mokeyjoe

Member
I'm 230 planets and 74 star systems in, went back to my first planet, everything was still uploaded and discovered like it should be.

What I suspect happens is that the server is what keeps track of all the planets you've discovered and doesn't endlessly save it locally to keep the filesize down (especially on PS4 I can see that being important)

However, early at launch the servers were hammered so some might not have gone through.

Yeah, the servers were almost constantly down the first few days. They're better now but still a little flakey. I loaded it up last night and got about 10 mins of 'discovery uploaded ' messages as it went through the stuff I'd tried to upload the night before.
 

KingSnake

The Birthday Skeleton
"One player going back to his first planet from the first day - that has blown my mind"

"We hope to see those Discoveries again... but too many of you are playing right now. More than we could have predicted"

"It is a testament to how amazing our network coders are that Discoveries are still working at all."
 
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