• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

HDR comparison shots

D

DOT DASH DOT

Member
With all the talk around HDR and 4K and with peops wondering whether or not it's really worth it, I decided to take some side by side comparison shots, with a HDR JS9000 Samsung (on the right side) and a Sony non HDR 1080p set which is 2 years old.

I've tried to be fair and took photos with the Sony's contrast and backlight at normal levels, and ramped up to the max like HDR does, but it displayed pretty much the same regardless.

The pictures I've taken are actually very representitive as to what I was viewing at those moments, not to say it doesn't look better in person, but for actual detail and colour it's very close.

The detail and colour imo is night and day, JS9000 being on the right, I couldn't take bright areas as the phone couldn't handle it, I just want to give some of you guys an idea of what to expect.

Obviously some HDR TV's will do it better than others, but I'm very happy with what I'm seeing in general and can't wait for games to support HDR.

image9sukh.jpeg


image5ikmv.jpeg


imagea1pwg.jpeg


imagetcu6q.jpeg


imagepbuzy.jpeg
 
K

Kaversmed

Member
Tv on the right seems more "natural" in terms of color. The one on the left is way too saturated imo.

Edit: Guess I have to see it in person to really see the benefits.
 
D

DJIzana

Member
This actually makes me pretty excited. I'm all for little details though and what I see, I like. What was the cost on that Samsung one, just out of curiosity?

Majine said:
4K alone is not the jump, It's 4K + HDR.
Click to expand...

Yep. That and the performance increases you get from PS4 Pro too, among a couple of other minor things like improved share feature etc.
 
McHuj

McHuj

Member
Are you're tv's calibrated to the same color temperature?

The problem is that we're viewing on non-HDR displays.
 
BigTnaples

BigTnaples

Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
Are all those from HDR enabled footage?



Also, yes, HDR is awesome. I've seen it many times, but now that both consoles are going in hard, I jumped in.



I have a Samsung HU8700 65" Curve 4K. While it doesn't have HDR out of the box, the Evolution Kit enables HDR for great results. Buying one that should be here next week.


Unfortunately, due to the lack of UHD in the Pro, I bought an XBO S for Blu Rays, and will wait on my PS4 Pro to see even more 4Kosh HDR goodness.


What a great time to be a graphics whore like myself...
 
D

DOT DASH DOT

Member
Yes very blue, I tried to calibrate the Sony better, but was as close as I could get. It brings out so much more detail, in one of the sea shots the water has way more detail, and light bleeding up a wall with no distinction in colour detail.
 
J

jesu

Member
The one on the left looks like it could be fixed in the settings better than what you have it right now.

Where are those first 2 pictures from?
I'd like to see what they should look like.
 
TONX

TONX

Distinguished Air Superiority
Saw this on Vizio's site when i was searching for HDR tv's.
Obviously simulated due to your monitor not being HDR.
EgZHZdN.jpg
 
B

Blastoise

Banned
HDR = Over Saturation?

Only great looking picture I've seen are the LG OLED 4K TVs. I'm just waiting for the input lag to decrease before jumping on board.
 
D

DOT DASH DOT

Member
jesu said:
The one on the left looks like it could be fixed in the settings better than what you have it right now.

Where are those first 2 pictures from?
I'd like to see what they should look like.
Click to expand...

I used a Spears and Munsil disc, not sure what else I can do.
 
I

Izuna

Banned
I really wish people didn't attempt to show HDR through screenshots. Seeing it in person is a huge difference.

We're not going to see anything in SDR but deliberately bumped screenshots to compare to.
 
NeoRaider

NeoRaider

Member
TONX said:
Saw this on Vizio's site when i was searching for HDR tv's.
Obviously simulated due to your monitor not being HDR.
EgZHZdN.jpg
Click to expand...

What kind of comparison is this?? lmao

Tbh. i am not liking what i'm seeing. Specially not for the games. I always turn these kind of effects off if i can. Because it just looks bad imo. It's oversaturated and sky/lights usually look blown out.
 
V

Vuze

Member
I'm not exactly sure how helpful SDR/HDR comparison shots are. If anything they will lead people to believe that HDR is nothing more but color shifting or oversaturation (as evidenced by some posters above already heh).
Same goes for the marketing material using washed out and over-satured stills to "show" the effect. It's kind of a tough thing to sell without demo stations.
 
Darklor01

Darklor01

Might need to stop sniffing glue
Mula said:
Fuck it, i must buy one, Nov 10th comes fast.
Click to expand...
I caved and upped to a KS8000 yesterday. Still in box in living room. Stuff came up and it couldn't be taken out. Look forward to setting it up today. #TeamNov10th
 
M

Mik2121

Member
Veins said:
I don't get it, those are 2 completely different images.
Click to expand...
It's one photo wth the slider in the middle, left half SDR, right half HDR.
Not a fan of the over saturated colors in that photo though, that's not how eyes work either, but I guess they wanna emphasize on the vibrant tones and larger color gamut.
 
N

Nbz

Member
I can't really tell the difference? Or which looks better?

I dunno, guess you can't get the effect from screenshots
 
K

kevm3

Member
I think the first few years of HDR is going to be a lot of creators 'lens-flaring' it up. In other words, things are going to look gaudy when they try to show how awesome HDR is by using the extreme contrast for no other reason than they can. A lot of the 'demo' HDR images such as the one below make the image look like it's been run through some gaudy instagram filter.
RS_HDR_GRAPHIC_tres.jpg

Like the blue went from something natural into some cartoonish blue. I know HDR gives a lot of potential for creators of content, but I hope they get the gaudiness in check quickly and use the expanded contrast/color palette in a more tasteful fashion.
 
Venuspower

Venuspower

Member
The "problem" with most HDR TVs (at this time) is, that they support HDR. But they do not meet the full requirement of BT.2020. That mostly affect brightness, since these TVs can not reach 1000 nits.
TVs who have a 10bit Panel are really expensive (e.g. 65DXW904). OLED TVs have even more problems with HDR than normal TVs. Also most OLEDs have much more problems to reach that brightness (they are usually between 400-600 nits).

I hope that TV manufacturers will be able to release TVs with a 10bit panel cheaper in the near future. Until then I do not want to pay money for a "half HDR TV", even you can already a difference with them. But I want all ^__^ Until then I will save some more money to get an even more powerfull TV.
 
metareferential

metareferential

Member
Comparisons are useless.

Go to a store and see it for yourself (and even here there are problems since stores push crap tvs based on what they have to sell). Otherwise you'll keep saying dumb things like "it's just over saturated" or "it's yellow" etc.
 
H

Horp

Member
Can't show the benefits or HDR like this, as others have pointed out.
I doubt I'd want to have HDR in the long run in my home. I think TVs are bright enough already. Often end up turning my brightness way down over time. Feels better for the eyes.
 
BigTnaples

BigTnaples

Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
NeoRaider said:
What kind of comparison is this?? lmao

Tbh. i am not liking what i'm seeing. Specially not for the games. I always turn these kind of effects off if i can. Because it just looks bad imo. It's oversaturated and sky/lights usually look blown out.
Click to expand...


HDR in person is the opposite of everything you are saying.

It's not one of those things you'll want to turn off.
 
I

Izuna

Banned
The reason for the bad comparisons is because HDR isn't just about a wider colour gamut, it's also a new standard for minimal contrast ratio, nits etc.

So what these companies are doing are trying to show you the comparison between a terrible screen and an acceptable one.
 
J

JP

Member
NeoRaider said:
I always turn these kind of effects off if i can. Because it just looks bad imo. It's oversaturated and sky/lights usually look blown out.
Click to expand...
They're not effects, They're not something that's added on top of the digital image which inevitably degrades it, they're a far more accurate way of displaying the image that's produced.
 
V

Vuze

Member
NeoRaider said:
Ok, if you say so. I will believe you, not my eyes. lol
Click to expand...
The pics are taken in SDR. You are viewing them on a SDR display. Come back when you've seen actual HDR on a HDR display.
It's not some sort of post processing effect you think it is based on these pics.
 
C

c0de

Member
NeoRaider said:
What kind of comparison is this?? lmao

Tbh. i am not liking what i'm seeing. Specially not for the games. I always turn these kind of effects off if i can. Because it just looks bad imo. It's oversaturated and sky/lights usually look blown out.
Click to expand...

Go into a Shop and pray that they have appropriate content running on a HDR tv set. It will blow your mind.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

Did Sony forget this...?
15
2K
FF:Enhanced_Reality replied
Hot Take: RDR2 HDR Looks Incredible
Opinion 2
55
10K
Thirty7ven replied
HGIG on OLEDs may be a lie, sometimes
2
57
12K
Killer8 replied
retro consoles and 240p / 480p resolution - sometimes less is more
2
79
6K
sigmaZ replied
Starfield is getting DLSS support
2 3 4 5
221
11K
alucard0712_rus replied
Top Bottom