TyMiles2012
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I REALLY don't think it means anything, besides, it's a repost. That clip was already shown at least a month ago when they started showing clips.
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IGN's Peer Schneider: "the NX is a complete reboot for Nintendo"
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I REALLY don't think it means anything, besides, it's a repost. That clip was already shown at least a month ago when they started showing clips.
I pointed this out before, but on the console side the Wii U was the only time Nintendo was ever behind a node at a console's launch. It's a bit more complicated with handhelds, but still I don't think you should take Wii U as the absolute norm here.
Plinko
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It won't be past October. Plenty of time to fit it in that month.
What history? You need only look to the 3DS for a device that came out with tech that was on the bleeding edge, it just wasn't the processor or the GPU. It was the screen.
WiiU was a huge investment in lossless, frame-perfect streaming. It didn't pan out.
Nintendo applies technology as they see fit, but not everything is lateral thinking with withered tech (this has always been true, but people are blinded by bullshit buzzwords like "supercharged PC architecture" or, more recently, "4K" oozing from Sony and Microsoft). The NX is based on a concept of mobility and home, in such a scenario they'd put a lot of emphasis on tech that can do both and do them well (hence Pascal making a lot of sense). It leads to a handheld/tablet-thing that blows everything out of the water and a fairly muted console but it is what it is.
TyMiles2012
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I agree. "Very soon" as the Nintendo exec said at the GameStop meeting isn't Christmas or January if this thing is releasing in March. That's not "soon," that's "later."
Kind of genius to reveal it later this month or October though. People are getting all excited for the PS4 Pro which is releasing in November, and just a few weeks to a month can get that hype down a little to slap everyone in the face with the NX, and people can just get the NES Classic to hold off.
Assuming third party support actually happens to succeed. Looking a little better than WiiU with RE7's trademark getting out involving "Video Game Cartridges", just like BoTW.
Sep. 20th definitely isn't happening though.
They definitely didn't mean March as the unveiling, but rather, the release month for the product.
Sept 22nd is the first day of Fall, I do believe the Oct reveal rumor, but I hope they give us a few weeks notice before the reveal, which we should get notice in Sept
AquaWateria
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That would make the reveal boring. Not knowing much is what makes this so exciting. Compare a Pro thread to a NX thread and they're wide apart in terms of suspense and excitement.
The Pro threads were boring because we already knew almost everything about it. The NX is much more interesting because its still a mystery.
On some levels that's true, but if the NX was just supposed to be an updated Wii U form factor without the promise of new games, I'd assume the hype would be a lot lower.
TheCongressman1
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People have expected news every day for the past few months.
Roto Prime
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A solar eclipse for the announcement of NX...
Some minor rumblings about an announcement this week from a few people and I think Nintendo likes announcing things on Tuesdays.
Makes sense what with Pokemon Sun/Moon
Jorok Goldblade
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At this point, best case scenario for the 20th is a press release saying
"Join us on October 4th/11th/18th for a special announcement."
Eurogamer never mentioned a specifc day of september, that was Nicowav.
They haven't changed their stance as far as I know, but they haven't exactly said "we're adamant it's coming in september guys." Just that they haven't gotten new info.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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So much misinformation.
That's a really small subset of games, basically only some games from nintendo, some indie games and few others, big third parties wouldn't use that feature it in their big games if not in minigames, it would just make the things confusing.
Also take into account a 2d/2.5d game playable with just an analog doesn't mean it could be played in multiplayer, some games are meant to be single player only like most of metroidvanias, adventure games, horror and others.
In my idea if you want multiplayer you use the nx on the dock plugged to the tv and 2 or more gamepads, while on handheld mode you are limited to single player and online multiplayer, simple and clear, it doesn't sound bad at all to me.
I understand that too
I would be happy with that. I only need to know the official NX presentation date. If Nintendo announces tomorrow that event for October 4th, that would be enough for me.
And the following 2 weeks will be really long.
ElectricBlanketFire
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So did we fabricate another announce date or is there actual concrete information?
If there was concrete info it'd be in an announcement thread with infinity posts at the top of gaf.
Roto Prime
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O_____OH Snap! Nov 18th!!!
Vampirolol
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DXB-KNIGHT
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We reached the level of the ancient aliens show
moltonasty
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Isnt every console a reboot for each console manufacturer? Lol
I Wanna Be The Guy
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So if an announcement doesn't come tomorrow, is it time to panic?
Panic doesn't begin to cover it.
And however you try and solve it you always end up trying to divide by 0.
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For a while I thought they might start their preorder campaign in the fall and maybe offer some sort of package to put under the Christmas tree. It would be just like they did with Star Wars toys back in the day.
Now I think they will wait until January.
It's worth clarifying the difference between old-style cartridges, modern 3DS-style game cards, and memory cards (i.e. SD cards).
Cartridges - Used in NES, SNES, N64, etc - ROM - Directly addressable via the memory bus, meaning data doesn't need to be loaded into memory when starting up the game, giving close to zero load times. Impractical on a modern system for a variety of reasons.
Game Cards - Used in DS, 3DS, NX - ROM - Accessed via its own bus, assets must be loaded into memory before use. Modern cards should be comfortably faster than optical media, and potentially faster than HDDs for contiguous reads, and orders of magnitude faster than both in terms of latency. Not zero load times but potentially faster loading than systems with disc-based media.
Memory Cards - SD Cards, etc. - NAND Flash - Not used in games consoles. Slower than game cards due to the need to run everything through a flash controller chip.
NX will be using game cards, not cartridges or flash memory cards. The load times are going to depend on the interface Nintendo uses for the cards. The DS and 3DS use an 8-bit parallel interface, but this was chosen back in 2004 for a handheld with limited 3D capabilities, and had to accommodate writing saves to the card. If they're designing a new game card interface for a modern system it would make sense for them to switch to a serial interface and drop support for on-card saves. Hopefully they adopt a variable-speed serial interface, potentially allowing games that need it as much as 250MB/s or even 500MB/s (or higher for NX2) without increasing costs for games that don't.
The design of the SoC would have been pretty well finalised by the time they announced the March 2017 release date. It's possible they made a switch from TSMC's 16FF+ to their new 16FFC process, which would potentially allow them to bring down power consumption and reduce costs a little, but there wouldn't have been any major redesigns possible at that stage.
There's really no reason to frame Nintendo's options in relation to existing Tegra chips. The NX will almost certainly be the biggest selling Tegra-powered device ever made by a substantial margin, and the chip that powers it will be made in far larger quantities, perhaps by an order of magnitude or more, than either TX1 or Parker. If anything, it would make far more sense for Nintendo and Nvidia to design NX's SoC from scratch and then use a variant of that for Parker, rather than vice versa.
Maxwell and Pascal are near-identical graphics architectures, and are both inherently modular and scalable, based around 128 ALU "Shader Modules" or SMs. Really there are only three questions when it comes to NX's GPU hardware:
- What manufacturing process will it be made on (ie 28nm, 20nm or 16/14nm)?
- How many of each functional unit will it have (ie how many SMs, ROPs, etc)?
- What clock speed will it operate at?
(Also, while Nvidia haven't operated on a semi-custom business model recently, there's no reason to believe they wouldn't if it were profitable for them, just as AMD operate both semi-custom and licensing models depending on the client).
Don't trigger us.
Roto Prime
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You are top gun lol
Yeah, but is she a member of an exclusive forum?Bullsh**t
Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule
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I Wanna Be The Guy
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Nicole is legit, guys. My uncle said so.
Wandering Robot
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It already feels like cabin fever in these threads, but if the lack of information keeps up much longer, I don't know how bad it will get.
But anyway late October is good for a reveal because that's wen my birthday is
But anyway late October is good for a reveal because that's wen my birthday is
IMO, if nothing is known by October 4th at the latest a delay is very likely. I don't think they'd want to announce in the second half of October, so I think the actual reveal won't be later than October 14th. I think we'll get a date next Tuesday or October 4th.
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Galactic Specter
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I contacted Gunpei Yokoi's ghost and he told me the NX reveal event will be announced on Wednesday.
Bullsh**t
Emily doesn't know when anything is happening either, her tweets are basically the same as us just posting in here
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