GlamFM
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Forza is a proven franchise - I know exactly what to expect.
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New trend of releasing higher priced version of a game earlier
- Thread starter ambar_hitman
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Forza is a proven franchise - I know exactly what to expect.
PsihoPerihelion
Member
I don't mind and see no problem with it. I don't buy games on release anyway ¯_(ツ
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_/¯soundscream
Member
Gamers are the worst, people acting like their rights are being violated because people are getting to play the game 4 days earlier.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
You have a choice to not buy it and you lose nothing.
tiebreaker
Member
The difference in reaction to Deus EX is staggering.
I'm actually fine with this practice. I don't usually buy games day 1 anyway, unless there is a good offer.
I'm actually fine with this practice. I don't usually buy games day 1 anyway, unless there is a good offer.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
I wasn't this discussion was all about Forza. Did you buy The Division special edition with the season pass?
packy34
Member
No they aren't. There's a set release date. You can pay extra to play it early if you're hyped. Or you can choose not to.
You aren't losing anything.
Visualante2
Member
It's slimy. You have a bunch of zealots paying extra to play a game they will like whether it's good or bad. And then the first few days of community impressions are heavily biased.
All it takes is one botched launch and people will expect refunds. Especially if the game isn't playable in that 3-7 day window.
All it takes is one botched launch and people will expect refunds. Especially if the game isn't playable in that 3-7 day window.
Give War A Chance
Member
Actually, this trend really sucks if it expands.
ESPECIALLY in a game with a single player, story driven campaign. Granted, the only campaign in that list I'd care about is Gears... But the potential for early spoilers from people who pay more and get the game earlier than I could... that's frustrating.
If this happened to a game I actually cared about, I'd be reeeeeeal mad.
ESPECIALLY in a game with a single player, story driven campaign. Granted, the only campaign in that list I'd care about is Gears... But the potential for early spoilers from people who pay more and get the game earlier than I could... that's frustrating.
If this happened to a game I actually cared about, I'd be reeeeeeal mad.
Mass_Pincup
Banned
Yeah I'm usually against DLCs, microtransactions etc... but I see no problem with this.
I don't have to buy the game day 1 though.
Crankshaft
Member
I don't see anything wrong with this "trend". These people are paying a premium for a game. Playing a few days earlier? Who cares? What a lame thing to get upset about.
Yes you're losing out on all this if you don't purchase it early:
What exactly are people meant to have a problem with here?
StrongBlackVine
Banned
They are not charging me shit extra. I'm paying the standard price I would always pay. People that can't wait a few days and pay extra need more self control.
Exactly. This is nothing. Someone will argue time...well do something else with that free time you have.
The game is done, they can release it.
And do you seriously think companies aren't going to be pushing their releases back a week to bleed free money out of people? Come on.
A ploy to generate as many pre-orders as possible vs a reward only to people "crazy enough" to pre-order everything. I can see why this generates a different reaction.
outunderthestars
Banned
I predicted this at the start of the generation. I don't care as I don't buy games at launch, but it seems like a good way to reward people who buy the deluxe version without denying content from the other users.
That could be said about any of the predatory issues the gaming industry faces.
paying 20 for a few days is stupid. i dont do it. but this is an industry driven by a lot of first adpoters, even for software. this is a forum for the biggest fans of gaming. i'd say ALL of us would like to play the games we are looking foward to most as early as possible. how is charging extra money to do that NOT a dick move? i mean if the game is ready and able to make it to the market in some form (digital or otherwise), thats the launch. its a shitty practice because they are purposely trying to squeeze people for extra money. it can still be a shitty practice even if they arent squeezing me.
Jawmuncher
Member
Don't mind it either, for hardcore fans paying that extra money. Makes sense to me to get it a few days early.
soundscream
Member
If you cant control yourself from buying a game 4 days early, then you have more serious problems.
packy34
Member
Shocking News: The game was done a month before the "early" release too. Manufacturing takes time.
It's a few days. Like... 3 days. With no extra benefit other than playing it 3 days early. Come on. This is way, way less predatory than cutting content to sell on day one as DLC.
I don't think it's a big deal or anything to get upset over.
The release date for the "normal" edition of Forza Horizon 3 is September 27. When the game was announced back at E3, it was revealed that the release date was going to be September 27. It doesn't look like it got "pushed back" to me.
The way I've always thought it worked was that these games are you know... done before release anyways. I have no issue with giving access to a game that to people that are going to buy a higher priced edition.
I see it as: Giving earlier access to people who were going to buy the ultimate edition anyways rather than forcing/persuading people to buy a higher priced edition so they could play early.
The release date for the "normal" edition of Forza Horizon 3 is September 27. When the game was announced back at E3, it was revealed that the release date was going to be September 27. It doesn't look like it got "pushed back" to me.
The way I've always thought it worked was that these games are you know... done before release anyways. I have no issue with giving access to a game that to people that are going to buy a higher priced edition.
I see it as: Giving earlier access to people who were going to buy the ultimate edition anyways rather than forcing/persuading people to buy a higher priced edition so they could play early.
Mass_Pincup
Banned
The release of every games are delayed because of physical edition, would you be ok with the digital version releasing weeks to a month in advance knowing that the digital version is almost always more expensive then the retail version?
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Seeing as how gaming is a luxury you are not forced to buy into any practice that you don't agree with. Every time a game gets extra content announced I see plenty of people saying they will wait for the complete edition. How is this any different?
Nope, i'm getting
-VIP Pass
-Car Pass
-All Star Pass
-Forza Horizon 2 Rockstar Car Pack
-Forza Motorsport 6 Meguiar's Car Pack
-Early Acess
Why aren't you mad about all the other bonuses i get?
It's not just 'spend £XX for early access', FH3 comes with a range of bonuses (VIP Pass, car passes), which are in addition to the base game.
It's four days. It's an eternity for me regarding access to FH3, but that is about the only game (other than maybe GTA) that I would fork out extra for. For any other release, (Gears, FMS), I would pay base price and then buy it when it came out.
And we'll be the crash test dummies for all of the server issues and inevitable day one problems, so you should be paying us!
It's four days. It's an eternity for me regarding access to FH3, but that is about the only game (other than maybe GTA) that I would fork out extra for. For any other release, (Gears, FMS), I would pay base price and then buy it when it came out.
And we'll be the crash test dummies for all of the server issues and inevitable day one problems, so you should be paying us!
They're not charging extra to play early.
It's been said multiple times in this thread, I guess we're going to have 50 pages of people being corrected.
Omnii-chan
Member
As a package I don't see this as value at all. The game has plenty of cars, car passes throw a bunch of extra cars into your game and you play it 2-3 days earlier, big whoop, I'd rather put the $20-40 towards another game.
Lady Siara
Member
If a game has any competitive element at all (pvp, leaderboards, etc.), it's a crock of shit to be honest. You're getting extra time to unlock weapons/vehicles and learn combos/maps. Yes, skill will shine through eventually but not having everyone on an even playing field on day 1 is in poor taste.
This is assuming they don't have server wipes on launch day, of course.
This is assuming they don't have server wipes on launch day, of course.
of course. at launch all games are 60.
I don't think those people need more self control. Those people can spend their money in whatever way they are fit.
When did I say it wasn't? Or am I only allowed to dislike one thing about the industry at a time?
It's still part of the package. They're not doing it as some kind of bonus for people who buy the Ultimate edition out of the good of their heart. They're wanting more people to jump ship from the standard edition of the game to the ultimate edition. They're taking advantage of peoples impatience and delaying the game for anyone who doesn't want to spend the extra money.
And yes, I say delaying, because the game is clearly ready else it wouldn't be released for anyone.
The only place I see this being okay is MMO releases where servers get overloaded so I think staggering the release date is a good thing.
Jawmuncher
Member
Yeah if this was pay more and the only bonus was early access there would be a problem. But they're literally just doing hardcore fan packages. Since the majority of games doing these tactics are giving you early access and all the DLC, along with other bonuses.
Games get to stores like a week or two before they actual release in most cases, so it's not like they're delaying shipments.
Games get to stores like a week or two before they actual release in most cases, so it's not like they're delaying shipments.
Mass_Pincup
Banned
Not in Europe, most of the games are 60 at retail and 70 digital.
Even then, the notion that the game is delayed a couple of days is weird to me since we could say that it's actually "delayed" for a few weeks.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Well don't complain about then. Although the people complaining are probably not buying the early access.
DeputyVanHalen
Neo Member
I didn't just pay for early access. I enjoy the series and was going to buy the dlc anyway, so I see it as a nice bonus. I'm not even sure how much I'll get to play this weekend anyway, so it would've been really stupid for me to spend the extra money just for that. With Gears, given that I don't play much MP, the extras weren't enough to make the ultimate edition worth it to me, so I'm fine with the standard and waiting a few days doesn't bother me.
simatron3000
Member
Relative to inflation games are cheaper today than ever, yet cost way more to make. Sure the potential sales are greater due to penetration but that doesnt change the fact that I pay the same (usually less) for a game today than I did for Final Fantasy 7 19 years ago. I'm sure some SF2 importers will have some tales to tell of really crazy prices.
I don't find games particularly expensive for what they are, I can't blame devs for wanting to squeeze more revenue out per title, I think it's better to let the people that want to pay extra pay extra (early access, cosmetic DLC, season passes) than pass the cost on to everybody.
I don't find games particularly expensive for what they are, I can't blame devs for wanting to squeeze more revenue out per title, I think it's better to let the people that want to pay extra pay extra (early access, cosmetic DLC, season passes) than pass the cost on to everybody.
This is a forum dedicated to talking and potentially complaining about precisely these sort of issues. So we should take microtransactions up the ass just because gaming is a luxury?
Because those people are waiting for the price to drop either under 60 or waiting for more content so as to justify the $60 price tag.
gamechanger87
Member
Wait do people think that the developers are delaying the game's release by 4 days so they can milk consumers?
You do realize that these games go gold weeks in advance and go to print soon after. They are then shipped to stores around the globe where they sit on shelves with a specific release date listed so that retailers around the globe have a similar release date and have time to receive the stock.
Do you want the retailers to just release the game when they receive it? How about digital buyers get the game when it goes Gold just because it can be easily uploaded and the physical copies come out weeks later.
Do people complain about the gamers who spend $300 on a CE with a poorly built statue?
Developers want to sell their games at a higher price than $60, but the market rebelled so they are stuck trying to figure out additional ways to monetize. They chase whales with DLC and want to push digital so they don't have to share in the revenue.
Gai Murakumo
Member
If people are willing to pay the money to play early I do not care because myself I am willing to wait 4 or so days to play.
packy34
Member
You're allowed to dislike it but in my opinion you've as of yet failed to give a good reason for feeling that way. I know GAF hates this word, but you're coming off kinda entitled.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
That's you choosing to accept yet another poor practice by the industry, that will surely evolve into something worse in time.
Tell me why Deus EX deserved a shitstorm and not this?
You realise the way companies work is they release things people want, right? People want sprawling AAA titles, which are extraordinarily capital heavy. Microtransactions are a way of recouping these costs.
Companies actually need to make money to continue making games. You should like these things because they make it easier for companies to make games that you might like.
Companies don't actually hate consumers and do these things just to fuck with them.
And really, if you don't like something then vote with your wallet. That's what companies listen to. I thought Fallout 4 was turd so I didn't buy a single DLC, even though I own every single Bethesda item since Morrowind prior to that.
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