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Earth Defense Force 5's enemies are literally called Immigrants"
- Thread starter Chaos2Frozen
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Nah, seems like that unwise choice of terminology was simply due to lackluster English skills, but not any malicious intent. I'm pretty sure they'll be named slightly different in the US and EU version.
... or maybe just that
Oh shit lol
Conservative America Defense Force 5
Pai Pai Master
Banned
Well that's pretty Japanese
Which I keep saying. It is certainly insensitive but it's in no way the incorrect word to use.
Irrelevant of the intentions of the non-indeginous aliens, they are by definition immigrants. There's nothing political or social in that, it's simply what that word means. Again, it's really not the most sensitive choice of words but I really do think that sensationalist reactionism is at play here.
Mufausa The 3rd
Member
When's the Trump Tower and Alex Jones Edition?
Chaos2Frozen
Member
I kinda hope they don't, and that this is intentionally South Park levels of uncomfortable XD
Maintenance
Member
PC version confirmed.
NCR Redslayer
NeoGAF's Vegeta
Im sure thats the joke. Too bad they were too busy witht their world of tanks crossover to realise the fault.
xenoriddley
Member
Honestly? It doesn't bother me at all. It's just a game and that's the terminology they're using, because they are immigrating to the planet and they're hostile.
If you consider that the job of an ant is to procreate, find food and a place to live, then technically they did come to Earth looking to do their job.
It just happens it's a job they kill humanity.
The term is technically correct, though the use will make some people uncomfortable.
Honestly, I get the feeling this is a "English is cool, let's use an English word for the alien invaders!" thing more than anything, but maybe I'm being naive here.
this guy right here
this guy right here
NCR Redslayer
NeoGAF's Vegeta
I need a video link. For research..Is it Godzilla an immigrant?
Ot he got citizenship
TheTylerRob
Member
bakka ant gaijin
samuraidino
Member
Eh,it seems like it's a play in words...calling their giant ant enemies that come from space immigrants
Chaos2Frozen
Member
Erm the Frogmen are literally called "Colonists", it's in my OP.....
letmetrythisname
Member
I sincerely hope that's just a poor translation. I can't imagine the localized versions saying the same thing.
That's not what a job is though.
I see, for some reason I though Immigrants and Colonist were a different species.
Does this make sense with a Japanese reading though? It's I-MI-GU-RA-N-TO.
Of course, as you point out in your quote. It's perfect.
Well, in English "alien" can mean a foreigner but when the English word is used verbatim in another language it always means extraterrestrials. Maybe they thought it works like that with other English words too?
hosannainexcelsis
Member
Going from past EDF games, while the aliens don't communicate via explicit speech, the assumption that has always been made by the humans from their behavior is that they are trying to eradicate humanity in order to set up Earth as a new home for their species.
Mr. E. Yis
Banned
It wouldn't be cool for them to continuously mention immigrants when referring to the aliens in this game. They have not used that word in their other games, and I'm pretty sure they will change the word.
But...I would love it if in the game, the general on the radio screams this while I am killing bugs:
But...I would love it if in the game, the general on the radio screams this while I am killing bugs:
And it's Kyodai Seibutsu if I remember the constant repetition of those terms in EDF2 JP correctly.
Isn't that what they are doing with the Earth Eaters in 2025?
Chaos2Frozen
Member
Well they are- Colonists are specifically the Frogmen while Immigrants is the umbrella term for all the alien enemies.
DenogginizerOS
BenjaminBirdie's Thomas Jefferson
Hopefully, someone with a functioning brain will correct this translation.
Salty Rice
Member
Sorry but now i kinda want it to stay just for the pun.
Spiral Insanity
Banned
I'm happy it doesn't bother you.
Immigrant here.
This is xenophobic, all you do in the game is shoot the immigrants, and they are not really immigrants, unless you consider a cougar crossing the mexican border into the US an immigrant as well.
With the English instruction standard in the Japanese educational system, I'd almost be surprised if this was legitimately a mistake. My guess is they thought it was a funny/clever word use.
For any who don't understand the reaction, there's wide-reaching ugliness when it comes to some of the negative sentiments on immigration. Hyper-nationalism tends to be rooted in a rejection of new-wave immigration, opining that various national issues are caused by those outsiders. There's tons of verbiage (in a number of languages) to the effect of parasites, insects, basically things describing the people as a sort of infestation (even totally legal immigration). Reinforcing or playing off that seems like tacitly supporting that attitude.
For any who don't understand the reaction, there's wide-reaching ugliness when it comes to some of the negative sentiments on immigration. Hyper-nationalism tends to be rooted in a rejection of new-wave immigration, opining that various national issues are caused by those outsiders. There's tons of verbiage (in a number of languages) to the effect of parasites, insects, basically things describing the people as a sort of infestation (even totally legal immigration). Reinforcing or playing off that seems like tacitly supporting that attitude.
Gozer the Gozerian
Member
When the "immigrants" in question are a bunch of giant ants, spiders, frogmen, and kaiju, I have a hard time getting offended by this.
Palette Swap
Member
Using language like "alien" or "invader" would avoid an unfortunate echo to a hot issue.
"Shoot these immigrants before they colonize Earth" sounds like a PR disaster waiting to happen.
Spiral Insanity
Banned
They should introduce white pigs as another enemy type, just as clever as colonial frogs.
striferser
Huge Nickleback Fan
Just the usual case of japan using word without understanding the context behind it.
Ok, this is a good one.
hosannainexcelsis
Member
I don't think it was a mistake per se, but I doubt the employees at Sandlot or D3 are really aware of all the connotations the word "immigrant" has in English-speaking cultures. When Japanese integrate English loan words spelled in katakana into their language, the result can come across as strange to English speakers at the best of times.
No one has a problem with the word immigrant, it's the implication of having "immigrants" be the thing that you shoot in the game.
I like the way you think.
Highly doubt that Sandlot was trying to make a statement, here.