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Palmer Luckey issue statement on actions on Nimble America

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Master_Funk

Member
I knew he was fishy the minute he was on the Giant Bomb after hours E3 thing 2 years. Something seemed off about him imo. About a few months later he retweeted something relatively normal from his Girlfriend about attending some event. Out of curiousity, I clicked on the account and just saw nonstop gamer gate bullshit and pro trump propaganda. Initially, I cut him a little slack, because he didn't specifically retweet any of the hate speech. But being in a close relationship with someone without sharing some of their views doesn't really seem plausible to me. Finding this stuff out is no surprise to me.

I really hope more developers drop out and consumers make their voices heard enough to send a message to oculus and facebook. It would also be interesting if major gaming outlets kept their coverage of oculus stuff to a minimum until palmer is axed, but don't think that'll happen unfortunately.
 
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ghibli99

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kamineko said:
I feel like we should have more sympathy for PL, who obviously was not psychically prepared for the difficult burden that is incomprehensible wealth.

After your first 500 million, you are issued a virulently racist SO. That was never his choice; it's just how we do money in the US. He paid a high premium for the creation of logic-impaired shitposts in order to sabotage the Trump campaign from within, thereby pushing Johnson over the edge. He is a libertarian playing a deep game that only similarly wealthy people could ever hope to understand.

Please, consider the struggle of rich people who are incessantly asked to occasionally give back to society. How would you feel if you could afford to do anything you wanted, whenever you wanted? Try walking a mile in their shoes.
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Can't tell if this is sarcasm or not.
 
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funkystudent

Member
Seiru said:
If I was a Muslim working at Oculus, I'd be super uncomfortable right now.

How do they expect to get away with Palmer not stepping down? Especially when he lied right in his apology?
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He was never going to step down or be fired for his political beliefs. Especially with the shit facebook was getting from the right for allegedly censoring stuff. And unfortunately in America supporting racism and discrimination is just another political belief


My guess is right now he will sit out the rest of whatever deal he has and then quietly leave.

Just hope for more developers to speak out, drop oculus support and more public shaming.


Oculus Connect in a few weeks might be fun.
 
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L Thammy

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ghibli99 said:
Can't tell if this is sarcasm or not.
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"After your first 500 million, you are issued a virulently racist SO. That was never his choice"

I realize that you've been disillusioned recently by people who don't wear shoes but you're a better judge of character than that.
 
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Neuromancer

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Seiru said:
If I was a Muslim working at Oculus, I'd be super uncomfortable right now.

How do they expect to get away with Palmer not stepping down? Especially when he lied right in his apology?
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If I was any kind of normal person working at Oculus, I'd be super uncomfortable right now. In fact I feel uncomfortable owning a Gear VR and having bought a ton of software on it, knowing what kind of man their founder and frontman is and how he spends his money.
 
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Neuromancer

Member
kamineko said:
I feel like we should have more sympathy for PL, who obviously was not psychically prepared for the difficult burden that is incomprehensible wealth.

After your first 500 million, you are issued a virulently racist SO. That was never his choice; it's just how we do money in the US. He paid a high premium for the creation of logic-impaired shitposts in order to sabotage the Trump campaign from within, thereby pushing Johnson over the edge. He is a libertarian playing a deep game that only similarly wealthy people could ever hope to understand.

Please, consider the struggle of rich people who are incessantly asked to occasionally give back to society. How would you feel if you could afford to do anything you wanted, whenever you wanted? Try walking a mile in their shoes.
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Some really good points here.
 
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Leona Lewis

Banned
kamineko said:
I feel like we should have more sympathy for PL, who obviously was not psychically prepared for the difficult burden that is incomprehensible wealth.

After your first 500 million, you are issued a virulently racist SO. That was never his choice; it's just how we do money in the US. He paid a high premium for the creation of logic-impaired shitposts in order to sabotage the Trump campaign from within, thereby pushing Johnson over the edge. He is a libertarian playing a deep game that only similarly wealthy people could ever hope to understand.

Please, consider the struggle of rich people who are incessantly asked to occasionally give back to society. How would you feel if you could afford to do anything you wanted, whenever you wanted? Try walking a mile in their sandals.
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Fixed.
 
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Krejlooc

Banned
SystemBug said:
So one thing I don't get is that why did he talk to the Daily Beast. Did he want to get outted? Is he that stupid?
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So that topic he posted in The Donald was laughed off the sub, people thought it was a scam because they couldn't reveal the "billionaire benefactor." I imagine the Daily Beast correspondence was supposed to be off the record in an attempt to clarify the situation, or that they pretended to be someone willing to donate money but needed reassurance that their figure would be matched. And that ultimately lead to them being allowed to vet the identity of Palmer Luckey.

EDIT: Just my speculation.
 
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SmiteOfHand

Member
SystemBug said:
So one thing I don't get is that why did he talk to the Daily Beast. Did he want to get outted? Is he that stupid?
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The best running theory for this sort of thing is ego. He knows it is a bad idea for these associations and ideas to be publicly associated with, hence the smoke screen, but everyday it eats just a little. Why should he have to hide and not get credit for his meme magic?
 
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L Thammy

Member
SystemBug said:
So one thing I don't get is that why did he talk to the Daily Beast. Did he want to get outted? Is he that stupid?
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It's amazingly stupid, but he's had the opportunity to deny it with his apology and hasn't really done that either, so it's fair to say that it happened. Maybe he's still got that feeling of invulnerability. I'm young, I'm rich, I can do whatever I want.
 
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ArkhamFantasy

Member
L Thammy said:
It's amazingly stupid, but he's had the opportunity to deny it with his apology and hasn't really done that either, so it's fair to say that it happened. Maybe he's still got that feeling of invulnerability. I'm young, I'm rich, I can do whatever I want.
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Based on Oculus backing him, maybe he's right.
 
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Kaako

Felium Defensor
Just checked thread and saw Brendan Iribe's response to all of this. Fucking shameful shit. Oculus will hopefully crash and burn for this shit. I hope their talented employees jump ship to work on Vive or PSVR. Cause this ship is going down whether they like it or not.
 
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Krejlooc

Banned
The_blonde_and_blue said:
Ah, karma in action.

I kinda hope he becomes the source of some memes himself because of all this. Only because then it will all come full circle.
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Maiden Voyage

Maiden Voyage

Gold™ Member
UncleSporky said:
Wait, if he's a libertarian voting for Gary Johnson, then why was he at a Trump rally?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJLQMbYrAkc&feature=youtu.be&t=112
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He's at a Trump rally because he supports Trump. He donates to Nimble America because he believes white supremacy and "shitposting" is value added to political discourse.

The former is okay from an employer standpoint, the latter shouldn't be. Sadly, Oculus feels differently. I think that needs to permeate this conversation.

Oculus is explicitly accepting of their brand ambassador being associated with white supremacists.
 
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SystemBug

Member
Krejlooc said:
So that topic he posted in The Donald was laughed off the sub, people thought it was a scam because they couldn't reveal the "billionaire benefactor." I imagine the Daily Beast correspondence was supposed to be off the record in an attempt to clarify the situation, or that they pretended to be someone willing to donate money but needed reassurance that their figure would be matched. And that ultimately lead to them being allowed to vet the identity of Palmer Luckey.

EDIT: Just my speculation.
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Yeah this seems most likely. Still can't believe how careless he was being. I think we might be working with VR headsets in school next year so maybe I can talk to my coordinator and see that we don't get the Rift. Plus being on an open source platform is probably better for us anyways.
 
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MrBadger

Member
Dan said:
*rolls eyes*

This and Luckey's responses are just "it's disappointing that the public is having a negative reaction."
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It's honestly really worrying how racism and bigoted views are "a political stance" now. "It's okay to say these things because a presidential nominee says them. It's just his opinion, bro. Sorry you're upset I guess."
 
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KageMaru

Member
He's not sorry for his actions, he's sorry he got caught.

It's insane that these types of people think a small apology message would make up for the hatred they induce into our society.
 
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L Thammy

Member
It is funny though that the part of the story that he denies is being a Trump supporter and not supporting a white supremacist group. Is he trying to protect Trump by going "See? Racists don't actually support Trump. I should know, I'm one of 'em!"
 
Melon Husk

Melon Husk

Member
shagg_187 said:
Are you all that dense and blind? How many more revelation you all need? Like a sign that he's holding that says "Hi GAF! NimblePenisMan here!"?

I fucking love this thread. "He has so much money, he doesn't know what to do with it! Let's not jump to conclusions!"
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Witch hunt threads aren't cool. No matter what the subject-matter.

chadskin said:
Andy Baio may have identified the shirt he was wearing at that Trump rally, by the way:
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I guess he is a trumpet, my bad for being skeptical.
 
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