Are Radiohead fans seriously this myopic?
OK Computer does commonly place in the No.1 spot or at least in the Top Ten for 'Best Album Ever' polls and lists here in the U.K. It's a big album.
Are Radiohead fans seriously this myopic?
You could really apply that to every 'indie' darling that's been posted here.
Mention any of those albums to people and you'll most likely just get a blank stare
OK Computer does commonly place in the No.1 spot or at least in the Top Ten for 'Best Album Ever' polls and lists here in the U.K. It's a big album.
This is a good answer. Well reasoned, too.Taylor Swift -1989
Katy PerryTeenage Dream
Fergie - The Duchess
All three had at least five very hit songs. Hell Katy Perry even tied Micheal Jackson with that album for #1 songs. I also think that it's not his album that is iconic, but the "Thriller" song being attached to it. "Beat It" and "Billie Jean" are good too, but people mainly love "Thriller". Similar to Adele's "Hello".
Edit: Also to those saying MBDTF, that may be Kanye's best album ever (I agree), however I don't think anyone outside his fan base knows about it or agree with you. Something akin to Thrillers has to be in the cultural zeitgeist.
I'm not saying it isn't. But it is hardly as culturally impactful as Thriller. Thriller had people in remote third world countries who never heard of America wanting to dance like Michael Jackson. It's a whole different level of cultural impact.
Incorrect. There are tons of albums released that are a whole lot better than Thriller. It is just revered doesn't mean better.
Revered as Thriller? Is this really the most revered album?
It's on a completely different environment, you may say.Why are people mentioning an album that has sold around 4.5 million, while Thriller sold around 110 million records?
It's on a completely other level. Just because "every alternative" person on the internet listens to Radiohead doesn't mean most other people do, too.
Ask 10 persons on the streets if they can name one song on "Thriller" and I guess that 8 or 9 will be able to do so. How many people are able to even mention one song by Radiohead?
Radiohead doesn't have the popular influence some people on this forum want them to have.
It's on a completely different environment, you may say.
Yes, everyone and (especially) their mothers know Billie Jean, Thriller and Smooth Criminal because the album happened to release in one of the most fortunate periodo for pop music, which had just gained a completely new level of exposure through video clips. Also, that audience generation is still alive and well, having just raised ours, and we are still exposed to it as a consequence.
If we are going by sales numbers the only other album that can be nominated is Back in Black (or a collection from the fuckin' Eagles)
But if we are talking cultural impact in the 2010s, Radiohead's influence is undeniably more present than Michael Jackson's when it comes to today musical landscape and audience taste.
But if we are talking cultural impact in the 2010s, Radiohead's influence is undeniably more present than Michael Jackson's when it comes to today musical landscape and audience taste.
Why is nobody replying to this? It effected pop culture much like thriller and influenced fucking everything, pop music, tv, movies, fashion, etc. I haven't seen a better answer and this is like the 3rd post.
Edit: Oh wow, 20 years huh
I'm with you. MJ basically defined modern pop. Ain't nobody listen to alt-rock anymore get outta town with this Radiohead nonsense.I disagree very, very strongly.
I'm with you. MJ basically defined modern pop. Ain't nobody listen to alt-rock anymore get outta town with this Radiohead nonsense.
I can assure you that a ton of people listen to alt-rock. Radiohead's OK Computer is basically considered the game changer for alt-rock for its time.
Although, if we're talking about Alt-Rock masterpieces, what about In the Aeroplane Over the Sea?
Game changer for alt-rock may be true. But, alt-rock has almost no cultural significance or importance anymore. It is unfortunately a niche market. Meanwhile, pop music is still the thing.
Are we only considering pop albums?
But if we are talking cultural impact in the 2010s, Radiohead's influence is undeniably more present than Michael Jackson's when it comes to today musical landscape and audience taste.
Yes...because pop is pop because it is popular.
Aeroplane over the sea is a great record no doubt,
but you would have to be insane to think it has even a fraction of the cultural relevance and reverence as thriller
Alt Rock is still one of the most popular genres around and probably the most popular rock genre around.
Pop Music is just a label for popular music. MJ's music is much more different then Modern EDM driven pop music. Pop music is still around in the idea that there is still popular music.
I dont think you comprehend how many people have been inspired by that album. It is like saying Dark Side of the Moon isn't culturally relevant because it wasnt pop music
I dont think you comprehend how many people have been inspired by that album. It is like saying Dark Side of the Moon isn't culturally relevant because it wasnt pop music
This question is "revered" as well. We aren't talking about Cultural Relevance
Thriller is still Revered because it was the hallmark of the generation of Pop, but that doesnt mean other albums havent been culturally as important. I think you'd be very surprised as too how deep the rabbit hole goes for something even like Trout Mask Replica, whcih is about the opposite of pop music
Popular online music nerd alt-rock album is not even a fraction of what Pink Floyd was, and is microscopic compared to ThrillerI dont think you comprehend how many people have been inspired by that album. It is like saying Dark Side of the Moon isn't culturally relevant because it wasnt pop music
Pop music is not just a label for anything that is popular. It is a genre of music. It is a wide genre, but it is still a genre. It includes things such as a rock n roll beat, repeating choruses, and easy to identify melodies and hooks.
As for alt rock and rock itself, just look at the charts to see how not-so-popular it is. Compare with other time periods to see how far it has fallen.
Cultural relevance directly ties into how much an album is revered.
We aren't talking about which albums have inspired the most other musicians.
We are talking about universal undeniable love of a record by the world at a moment in time/forever
Thriller is record you would listen to, your mom would listen to, your child would listen to. Neutral Milk Hotel is someone you listen to
Popular online music nerd alt-rock album is not even a fraction of what Pink Floyd was, and is microscopic compared to Thriller
This is a flawed argument because Alt-Rock has so many split branches that it's hard to find a specific niche that will give enough fanfare to help these bands. The issue isnt how popular alt rock is, it's how spread out thin rock music is in general. Alt Rock is still very alive, in fact like i said before it's by far the mst popular form of rock and roll out there.
But alt rock is demographically challenged these days. Hip-hop, rap, etc. have a far wider appeal across the board. Musically, I would even say alt rock hasn't been as influential on crossing over into other genres like hip-hop and rap has. I mean fuck, we have country rap now.
This is also flawed because I know a lot of famous EDM artists, and a lot of Hip Hop artists who grew up on alt-rock. Are you implying that the stylizations they learned and were influenced by had nothing to do with their current musical creation? That's asinine too me
This is also flawed because I know a lot of famous EDM artists, and a lot of Hip Hop artists who grew up on alt-rock. Are you implying that the stylizations they learned and were influenced by had nothing to do with their current musical creation? That's asinine too me
Also, Hip and Rap are way less niche then Alt-Rock. Alt Rock is a subgenre within a subgenre. Hip Hop and rap deviated from other things, but became something like Rock where it's a very broad category
Hundreds of albums are better than Thriller, that's not what the thread is getting at.
If another Thriller were ever to be made it would be by someone like Taylor Swift or Katy Perry. Justtin Timberlake was on the verge at one point but I don't think he has it in him now.
Has Neutral Milk Hotel ever been played on mainstream radio?One of the reasons is inherently time. We were given a question of basically unlimited time. What Album will be revered in the future like we revere Thriller. And I can assure you that In the Aeroplane Over the Sea has been very relevant for a whole slew of bands that wouldn't fall in the alt rock scene.