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More @ http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37640982
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Race and religious hate crimes rose 41% after EU vote (Brexit)
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More @ http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37640982
Given the severity of this, I thought it deemed having its own topic!
Triggerhappytel
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So fucking ashamed of this goddamn country at the moment. Everyone who does this should be thrown in prison and labelled a terrorist, but more likely is that the Tories will encourage it.
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
DragonSworne
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They just needed to change things up a bit, try something different.
The image of England has really sunken. I'm never visiting the country again.
The image of England has really sunken. I'm never visiting the country again.
1.21Gigawatts
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And the same thing will happen in the US if Trump wins.
Lovely Salsa
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Or loses
hydrophilic attack
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Deplorable
Ardenyal
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Also a 147% increase in homophobic attacks.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/oct/08/homophobic-attacks-double-after-brexit-vote
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/oct/08/homophobic-attacks-double-after-brexit-vote
FlammableD
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In case you thought the vote was about the issues, homophobic attacks rose sharply following the referendum as well.
EDIT: Beaten, with a source and everything
EDIT: Beaten, with a source and everything
Palette Swap
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Yeah, it's only going to get worse, this isn't going away.
HazySaiyan
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Doesn't help that the government seem to be trying to cater to these fuckers instead of telling them where to stick it.
Well that prick is out supporting Trump. So it's not like this isn't what brexiters wants.
Mr. Giggles
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but according to the "math" of Stalliondan racism wasn't a factor...
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Little Old Man
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I don't think people realise how much underling racist sentiment and ignorance there is amongst the general public. For the more emboldened and particuarly racist individuals in the UK, the referendum result and the immigration hysteria over the past few years has a green light to begin sprouting and acting upon their awful views of non white people.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
At least you got your country back. Your racist, racist country
I have no doubts my country is equally as bad
Yep, this is worth pointing out. It does slightly cloud the issue, as there was no direct or indirect homophobia with either campaign. Could be a number of reasons:
1) the types of people who commit race based hate crimes are also the type to commit homophobic hate crimes, and found greater opportunities to target victims
2) the level was always this high, and the stories about hate crime show convinced more people to come forward
Working in this area p, and having had responsibility for hate crime for a number of years previously, hate crime is a really, really tricky and perplexing puzzle. No-one has any real idea how much there is, only that we know the vast bulk is unreported and that 'big events' can lead to both an upsurge in the number of incidents, and also an upsurge in the reporting of incidents (much like the Saville reports - one person coming forward makes there come forward. Or to be topical, the Trump reports)...
sums it up
If there is a 'Gifs and pictures of the year' thread in December, this has to be a front runner. On seeing it go viral shortly after it was recorded, laawwwd it was and is just so perfect.
When he loses I expect some unrest on election day but as long as he doesn't tell his supporters to go to the streets and fight I think they'll scurry back under their rocks after being overwhelmingly rejected by the majority of the country.
Disclaimer: He might tell his supporters to go to the streets and fight.
DrunkShogun
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Lost any attachment to U.K. at this point. I've been fortunate to not have had any issues and only met the nicer side of the uk but I'm all set to leave when I can. Unfortunately most countries are just as bad as the uk.
Lovely Salsa
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They say Canada is a wonderful place.
ReplacementPelican
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Lets just hope it's the dying cries of the baby boomers, as we'd suspect from the demography of Leave voters, Trump voters, etc..
As for the topic at hand, yeah, obviously. The vote empowered the very small amount opf people who are violently racist and hateful. Hopefully, all of this media attention has also encouraged people to report racial and religious hatred to the police.
Legally it's still a hate crime and/or hate speech so yes, it does.
Disagree Guy
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Hate crime increasing is bad.. nobody is disputing that.
Facebook instances of racism must have increased over 9000%
It's amazing how even people like Teachers and Police officers can spout the most xenophobic, islamophobic even homophobic things literally as soon as Brexit is announced.
It's not an excuse to justify your ignorance people.
Facebook instances of racism must have increased over 9000%
It's amazing how even people like Teachers and Police officers can spout the most xenophobic, islamophobic even homophobic things literally as soon as Brexit is announced.
It's not an excuse to justify your ignorance people.
It's the result of globalization and the way some areas and people are left behind when the world and whole industries change. You gotta blame something.
Many predict brexit and Trump are just signs of a future trend.
Lord Thrappleper The 49th
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We made britain great again guys!
Audioboxer
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I'm assuming this is sarcasm? I know there are defence forces on GAF for a lot of things, but I'd seriously like to think no one would come in here and try to defend the UK on this matter. The figures don't lie and nothing about them is anything to be proud/happy of.
Gordon Shumway
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Damn shame..
FlammableD
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tell me a considerable amount more
ReplacementPelican
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Yeah, I've seen that prediction too and can definitely say that some countries their youth are similar. If you look at Russia, for instance, their youth have been completely indoctrinated into this prelapsarian soviet ideal and this is partly why you've seen huge pushback on homosexuality (traditional masculinity) and race relations (traditional Russian).
However, skewing to Brexit: it was mostly the old who wanted to Leave (ironically, as many of them won't be around to see its full effects) and the young didn't. I can only assume Trump is the same. In these countries I can't see it being too much of a trend once the over 50s start to drop off and the youth actually turn out in high numbers but we'll see, I'm probably just trying to be positive about this.
What Brexit did capitalise on - and I can see this with Trump - is a general anti-intellectualism where everyone thinks they're entitled to an opinion the same as someone educated on the matters. Also, as a point of information for this thread, with people who voted Leave their idiocy was not just on the topic of immigration, with environmentalism; feminism and 'the internet' all trending incredibly high for Leave voter's issues.
Terbinator
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Don't worry. It will soon be buried by the US ones.
I'm just surprised that there almost seems to be as manyUK politics threads as US ones, or even China bashing ones, considering it's so close to an election. The US election tend to stick with the 200 page megathreads a bit more.
There is some schadenfreude in these UK threads, but mostly just disbelief.
CadetMahoney
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Would be interesting what the breakdown is per race before and after the spikes Polish/West-Asian etc.
Audioboxer
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The UK stuff largely does stick to one thread? We occasionally see splinters coming off of that for what topic posters feel are things worth letting the world know. Like it or not megathreads tend to be echo chambers of the populations of the country they are about. In my opinion for this topic the EU, let alone America which is facing it's own anti-immigrant rhetoric right now deserves to see how the UK behaved in the wake of the Brexit vote.
The reality is what the reality is, being upset that the UK is having some negative topics posted about it isn't a great reason to sum it up as "piling on" as if these topics are just opinion pieces on how "shitty" the UK is. This one is factual, opinions may follow the facts, and unsurprisingly you shouldn't be seeing positive opinions in this topic. For anyone to click the title and think people will be saying "Bravo UK!" is just... what?
I propose that we vote to change the name of the country as Great Britain and The United Kingdom is clearly a mismatch.
Honestly people are kidding themselves if they believed that voting leave didn't give permission for racist and bigoted attacks to happen and instead of Britain progressing forward we are instead regressing backwards because of the government pandering to idiots.
Honestly people are kidding themselves if they believed that voting leave didn't give permission for racist and bigoted attacks to happen and instead of Britain progressing forward we are instead regressing backwards because of the government pandering to idiots.
Poundland.
Edit: Racists using a divisive campaign as an excuse for their racism. Why am I not shocked.
gutter_trash
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Leave winning is seen as validation for their hatefull beliefs and think that it is lawful
that is th danger of populist nationalism: victory validates the worst aspects of nationalism
that is th danger of populist nationalism: victory validates the worst aspects of nationalism
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