GinoFelino
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That was a lightning-speed ban, good grief. Mods getting that Pro upgrade.
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Why are there no comparion videos and screenshots in this thread?
beyond dissing cnet, does anyone really disagree with the verdict?
"If you don't have a PS4, buy the pro, if you have a PS4, you don't need a pro right now because the upgrade isn't worth 400$, right now"
Sounds reasonable to me.
Why are there no comparion videos and screenshots in this thread?
https://youtu.be/l0zHHXu_nOY you're just not looking hard enough!
Not really, People claimed consoles are going the way of the mobile phone, reviews should reflect that.
This is a much larger upgrade than any iphone has ever mustered yet the review is not written the same way.
My only disagreement is if you have a PS4, and want to upgrade to a Pro, then out of pocket it's not a $400 upgrade if you sell your old PS4 or trade it in. It's more like a $200-250 upgrade. I personally think that's reasonable for what you're getting.
Pretty much this will be the case. This is pretty much the case ever since it's announcement...not sure any reviews or opinions would change thatbeyond dissing cnet, does anyone really disagree with the verdict?
"If you don't have a PS4, buy the pro, if you have a PS4, you don't need a pro right now because the upgrade isn't worth 400$, right now"
Sounds reasonable to me.
Were you paying attention during the 3GS to 4 transition? The pro upgrade has nothing on thatThis is a much larger upgrade than any iphone has ever mustered yet the review is not written the same way.
Not comparable? The S is a very minor upgrade over the OG but at least it allowed better frame rates in underperforming titles with the spec bump. Sony is locking out that potential unless a dev patches their game. As an example: In Destiny's latest expansion the frame rate can drop to single digit numbers in the raid and having that extra power completely unavailable is a disappointment to any fan of the game. I'm not saying implementing that extra power would be super easy for the Pro but the lack of it is disappointing as a gamer. I'm super excited about the potential of the pro and games like RotTR look absolutely amazing, just wish more devs were going back to patch their games or Sony would allow a small spec bump to un-patched games.
Yup, again with this. The PS4 Pro is the first incremental upgrade I've seen that locks down un-patched games to IDENTICAL performance for the sake of compatibility, is it wrong as a consumer to be disappointed in this? Maybe I'm just expecting too much from Sony, the engineering on the PS4 Pro is a feat and I'm looking forward to mine arriving Thursday but I STILL wish they'd give a percentage of the new power to older games.
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Also why are people still talking about the Xbox One s minor bump which literally makes it on par with the OG PS4? 💀
One or two games come out with small performance boosts over one or two ps4 games and people are running away with it. There are still games that run the same on PS4 without the need of a boost that the Xbox One S is now on parity with... Really tho?
CNet, the website that gave the iphone 7 the same review score as the iphone 6?
Removing features, same screen, minor differences in hardware..........
wait, what?
how is it a much larger upgrade?
There was no functionality added - it's literally just CPU and mainly GPU power. This is literally a smaller upgrade than any iPhone upgrade, imho
I don't know why you're so gung ho about "yeah, i'm with DF on this"... Every single review is a puzzle piece to the complete picture. I don't see why you're so vocal about being wilfully ignorant of reviews that don't agree with your preconceived idea of what the PS4 pro would turn out to be.
wait, what?
how is it a much larger upgrade?
There was no functionality added - it's literally just CPU and mainly GPU power. This is literally a smaller upgrade than any iPhone upgrade, imho
I don't know why you're so gung ho about "yeah, i'm with DF on this"... Every single review is a puzzle piece to the complete picture. I don't see why you're so vocal about being wilfully ignorant of reviews that don't agree with your preconceived idea of what the PS4 pro would turn out to be.
https://youtu.be/l0zHHXu_nOY you're just not looking hard enough!
Seems like every review site rushed out reviews just to make the deadline for clicks. No one seems to really have set down and and actually run it through its course. Just a bunch of midnight release 12:15 impression reviews.
Digital foundry for Uncharted if you only had time to count the pixels but can't tell if anything else has been approved just hold off there are others days in the week to get clicks. Why is 1440p worth it on pc for a 450 dollar 1070. But a disappointment on ps4pro?
So, power consumption is good. What about the improvements for PSVR?
Is there any additional info yet?
HDR is on both major consoles that are already out. Why would you upgrade for something you already have?
I mean but it's not. It's for new consumers who never had a Playstation because $100 for the upgrade moving forward is better than buying the older model. But it's also for enthusiasts.
Saying that it's for one type of person is so off the mark. It's like recommending someone a 2013 TV when the 2016 is better in a lot of aspects for a $100 bucks more.
You are answering your own question?So what's the general consensus? Should I even bother picking it up if I only have a 1080p display but still want slightly better visuals?
So, power consumption is good. What about the improvements for PSVR?
Is there any additional info yet?
i think it's right there in the middle. it all depends on how much you care about graphics, how much you notice higher resolutions, what your overall setup is (do you already own a 4k TV, do you own PSVR?), etc. pp. It's not a no-brainer as (i'd expect?) going from Xbox One -> Scorpio.
If i didn't own a PSVR and a 4k TV, i'd probably not early adopt the pro, and maybe jump in when they release a fancy (white!) bundle
Dude you realize the base PS4 performance is STILL better than the Xbox One S, right? The Xbox One S was so minor not only a handful of games perform better, not all, and they still are lagging behind their PS4 counterpart(Project Cars for example).
It's still not on par with the OG PS4. The OG PS4 still has higher resolution/framerate in graphically intensive games(Battlefield/Project Cars for example). Seriously, where are people getting this?
So what's the general consensus? Should I even bother picking it up if I only have a 1080p display but still want slightly better visuals?
have you tried using Second Light to test the peak fan noise? thanks for your review.
Great video! Would have appreciated more direct, standstill comparisons, but nonetheless I thought you guys did a good job!
That's up to you and how much you notice these slight improvements.
Less jaggies, less shimmering, sharper, cleaner, and possibly more enhancements depending on the dev. All i can say is that it's worth it for me. But i want to kill jaggies for a living.
Seems like it would have been highly relevant to include that information.
Actually, I agree with the larger upgrade thing.
I don't have 'the list' ready, but much faster wifi, better Remote Play/Youtube streaming, better controller, 2x GPU, 4K streaming, new design, added USB port, SATA III, etc....
That's pretty damn big for a $200 upgrade.
Many yearly iterations of gadgets don't even come near this level of improvement, but reviewers seem to have a 90's mindset re: consoles.
I haven't really been following it so pardon my ignorance, but games taking advantage of the Pro specs can result in better visuals regardless of whether or not I have a 4K TV?You are answering your own question?
I expect to see a greater benefit to 1080p visually than 4k by way of bells and whistles.
Also: PSVR, if that's your thing.
https://youtu.be/l0zHHXu_nOY you're just not looking hard enough!
I haven't really been following it so pardon my ignorance, but games taking advantage of the Pro specs can result in better visuals regardless of whether or not I have a 4K TV?
Seems like every review site rushed out reviews just to make the deadline for clicks. No one seems to really have set down and and actually run it through its course. Just a bunch of midnight release 12:15 impression reviews.
Digital foundry for Uncharted if you only had time to count the pixels but can't tell if anything else has been approved just hold off there are others days in the week to get clicks. Why is 1440p worth it on pc for a 450 dollar 1070. But a disappointment on ps4pro?
That sounds worth it to me then. Guess I'll be buying a Pro within the year then.Yes and it's pretty big on reducing jaggies even if it's the bare minimum and the devs didn't put any effort into it. Devs who do will result in games with lots of new graphical effects!
Have any reviewers mentioned decibel ratings or perhaps shared their thoughts on how loud the system is? I know it sounds silly but this is what determines if I skip the pro for a slim.
I play my games on a monitor, so the console is going to be right beside me...
That sounds worth it to me then. Guess I'll be buying a Pro within the year then.