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Laura Dale: 2 Switch SKUs planned, UK Retailer GAME will sell at £199.99 and £249.99
- Thread starter Richie
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I mean £199.99. I read the article a few hours, then promptly forgot the details while I'm at work.
Leave me alone, I'm tired!
I meant more in terms of feeling that it has to be $200 or less isn't reasonable. But either way, this is going to cost substantially more to make than the Shield. $200 isn't out of the question, but at the same time if it's not $200 then the reason is that it simply can't hit that price. Simply put, it's the best case. With that said, given projected exchange rates and that Nintendo doesn't want to sell for a loss, as well as the fact that US prices don't include tax, $250/300 isn't the forgone conclusion. If I were to guess, I'd say that all of you are a bit too focused on multiples of $50 and that we'll likely see something more along the lines of $219.99/259.99 or 269.99. That makes sense when you look at 3DS and consider that everyone here doesn't view this as a console except when it works against the thing anyway.
BronzeWolf
Banned
Excellent price!
I love it
I love it
LegendofLex
Member
PS4 launch price
US $399.99
UK £349.99
Xbox One launch price
US $499
UK £429
You're thinking of Euro prices.
Okami Haundo
Member
Yep... The idea of "I'll only use it as X so I expect it to compete with other X's price-wise" is just silly.
PS4 has call of duty, grand theft auto and sports games. and will probably have those games bundled with the console around the holiday season.
it's a more attractive package than nintendo can hope to sell at the same price.
Skittzo0413
Member
Ah gotcha, I totally agree with all of that. I think $200 is ideal, and I think $225 or so is what it will end up being (for the base price). Either way, I don't think it has to be $200, I just think if it does hit $200 then it will be massively successful. It may be pretty successful at $225 or even $250 too, but the $200 price tag would really make this take off.
Gotcha, thank you. Now I'm all confused about VAT and exchange rates, and what it means if the Switch will be region free. Like she said in the link in the OP, I guess we can't really assume what the US/EU prices will be from the UK price, especially amidst all the current uncertainties and fluctuations.
Nintendo (at launch at least) will have Call of Duty, Sports Games, and Zelda Breath of The Wild.
Let's wait and see what happens before making these types of claims right off the bat.
Pancakes R Us
Member
Except I don't think this price will fly in the UK. Europe maybe. Not here though - too close to to XBO/PS4.
It doesn't help that the platform will probably have an ID crisis from general public perception (handheld or home console). If it's perceived as a handheld...well, dedicated gaming handheld market is gradually shrinking.
Savinowned
Member
Mario Kart Switch Bundled for sure. It appeals to core and casual gamers, is based off an older game so it's more likely to be bundled than a new game, plus it has local multiplayer to show off the use of the joy cons.
That being said I wish they'd give Zelda bundled, but that's not very likely
That being said I wish they'd give Zelda bundled, but that's not very likely
LordRaptor
Member
£200 - £250 at game would be £180 - £230 at shopto / amazon / zavvi etc though
Shikamaru Ninja
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Nintendo isn't going to have a single problem selling the hardware they can ship from Launch to Holiday this fiscal 2017 - if the software line up materializes as hinted. So the point is moot, for that fiscal year. What happens after March 2018 is another question..
EventHorizon
Member
Nintendo isn't going to price the Switch so close to the current exchange rate. The GBP/USD exchange rate has been on a downward trajectory and is expected to go lower when the effects of Brexit actually start happening. Trump could halt the decline, but that just goes to show you how volatile the markets can be. Nintendo will base their prices on where they expect the exchange rates to be, not where they are. Things are just so crazy right now that I have no idea what the rates will be in a year.
http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=gbpusd=x#{"allowChartStacking":true}
Edit: Who knew that Sony didn't make the Switch
You know things are crazy in the world when Sony gets to decide the pricing of the new Nintendo console!
sorry
frankie_baby
Member
Maths is slightly out, it's £166.66+VAT
No my maths is spot on, VAT is charged as a percentage of the sale price, 20% of 200 is 40 so the VATless price is 160
kuroneko0509
Member
actually you're wrong and jonno is right. 20% of the pre-vat price. 200 is 1.2 of the price so that leads pre-vat to be 166.67
you can see that vat is 20% of the pre-vat price, not being 20% of the total price
if going with your math, vat charged should be 3.14
Stone Ocean
Member
Maybe he's from the Berenstein universe
EventHorizon
Member
Wait what? Call of Duty hasn't been confirmed for the Switch and I think it's unlikely to get it due to the power differences.
Power differences?
Switch can easily get xbox one ports
Il publishers are interesred
And THAT is the issue
Skittzo0413
Member
Wii and Wii U both had several CoDs. It would be very strange if it's not there at launch.
Dreamwriter
Member
Don't forget Wii U got Call of Duty Black Ops II, and that was a much more extreme power difference.
BronzeWolf
Banned
Switch will get ports if the Publishers see the market for it. It's not about power.
Emily Rogers just twitted the SKU pricing rumor. While it's not a confirmation, I think it gives further credibility if she thinks it's possible.
https://twitter.com/ArcadeGirl64/status/798208492930789376
Emily Rogers just twitted the SKU pricing rumor. While it's not a confirmation, I think it gives further credibility if she thinks it's possible.
https://twitter.com/ArcadeGirl64/status/798208492930789376
I generally agree (for Europe, not the UK), as at 249€ they would not be cheaper than the (established) competition. In all fairness though, they've basically shown nothing of the console or its line-up, so maybe they can manage to position themselves appropriately. It will be an uphill battle regardless I guess.
And Ghost too. Was amazed it got two of them.
Pancakes R Us
Member
The issue is that there's no audience on Nintendo platforms for those games. Why should those publishers be interested? Unless they like to waste valuable development time and money.
sir_bumble_bee
Member
We don't know that yet, it hasn't even been released yet. Publishers will dip their toes in the water by bringing over some of their games, and if they're satisfied with the sales, they will continue their support. It's as simple as that
exactly. not the power difference.
near launch if N positions the console as a home hw for gamers we could see some western multiplat games.
I doubt that will last past the first six months...
that is why I'd prefer them to go after the more reliable portable japanese side of things...but with those prices and positioning...
EventHorizon
Member
Activision makes mobile games which is probably what they'll port to the Switch
Activision also stopped supporting those Nintendo consoles.
Call of Duty Infinite Warfare is 130 GB. You are not putting that on a card. Granted that includes Modern Warfare which would likely get stripped, but Black Ops 3 was 58 GB on current gen. It was less on 360 and PS3 but those versions didn't have the full game and were missing the campaign.
Lol I work with vat everyday buddy, the sale price is 100% the sale price plus vat is 120%.
So if price is £200 inc vat that's 120%. Price without vat is £200/1.2 which gives you £166.67 (100%). It's a value added tax so a 20% tax added to the net value of the item.
Jawbreaker
Member
Also, remember that these are largely multiplayer games. So not only would the Switch version of a Call of Duty title be technically compromised, but the player base is historically on other platforms, meaning the multiplayer would be pretty dead. People who want to play these games with friends already have more powerful consoles to do it on.
You're wrong. You are taking 20% off the price including VAT to find out how much VAT, but that's not how it works. The 20% is added onto a price before VAT, not after.
£166 add 20% VAT (£33) = £200 = the price you pay.
We have all seen recently CoD audiences which are in the actual sense of the word dead.
Jawbreaker
Member
Just an example. Take Battlefield 1, and the argument still applies.
I really hope you are merely having a brain fart and don't really think that's how taxes are applied.
Pancakes R Us
Member
I don't need to wait until post launch to know that. Some publishers may dip their toes in at launch, yes. But give it 6 months to a year and they'll back off as it becomes clear that the audience for those games is still (surprise) on other platforms. Rinse and repeat.
You want to think like this let X be the original price or the price without VAT tax.
Code:
X is the Price without the VAT Tax
X+X*0.2=Listed_Price
X(1+0.2)=Listed_Price
1.2*X=Listed_Price
X=Listed_Price/(1.2)
The Listed_Price is 199.99
so
X = 199.99/1.2
X=166.658333333 which is the VAT-Tax-Less Pricepeanutbutterlatte
Member
Yeah there was a reason we got travesties like Dead Rising CTYD and the much more interesting Modern Warfare port on the Wii. If there's a market, they'll make compromises. Also why you had, for a long time, an incredibly gimped version of Minecraft on phones.
frankie_baby
Member
I was slightly mistaken, its not exactly much different though
Jonneh3003
Banned
Yeah you're right actually I shouldn't be treating Micro SD's like they're fact. Everything until Jan 13th is a rumor. That being said New 3DS supports Micro SD's so I wouldn't be surprised. Even with PSP Sony used a fairly uncommon format, though it wasn't exclusive to the platform unlike Vita's memory cards.
spookyfish
Member
If true, I hope this works out better for Nintendo than the Wii U, meaning I hope there's more memory than the Wii U Deluxe even in the basic Switch unit.
Why would they get a ps4 when its tied to a tv?
And there never will be an audience unless they go ahead and build one. If you build it, they will come, and all that. You can't complain that the audience isn't there if you're doing fuck all to build one. The audience wasn't there for PS1 at the start, it took a few brave publishers to make the audience.
Every Nintendo console since Gamecube has used SD cards in one form or another. Nintendo are very pally with Panasonic.
Delusibeta
Banned
This is not good news for those of us hoping for full gyro support... that's even less than the Wii U Pro was. It sounds like another cheap-ass bone standard dual analog. Having to choose between gyro controls or a real D-pad would suck, so I hope gyro is capable of being in even a $40 controller. Maybe the sensors are cheap enough now?
The whole system in general is sounding a little too inexpensive for my tastes... there is such a thing. $199 would be an amazing price, sure, but I think most people would easily be willing to pay $250 for a more capable system, with $299 being the deluxe bundle with extra memory. At this speculative price, it seems like Nintendo would be leaving too much hardware potential on the table.