Hey fran! What do you think about PK gaming?
Hey PK Gaming! What do you think about franconp?
What kind of role would that be? The framing stuff is odd too. Isn't framing an actual role that scum sometimes have or am I misremembering? I wonder if it's a limited thing as well since this didn't happen night one (or at least if it did nobody came forward).
Also, I agree with everyone else who says it's suspect you didn't use it last night. If you really are town, and you are claiming the truth about your role, you would've been the number one target for scum.
Unless maybe they figured you would be the next target for a town lynch and didn't want to waste that vote, but I don't know how likely that is.
I can only use it on one person at a time, and if I died I wouldn't be able to tell anyone anyway. What are people not getting here.
That second part is very likely. I brought it up here.
I had a feeling no one would believe me, so if you guys want to waste a day hyperfocusing on an incorrect target, that's fine. But I also don't want to be a distraction from actual scum, so if you guys just want to bumrush me now, go right had. I'd rather town see the truth and then move on to finding actual scum.
Using your role is about the only chance you had of verifying your PR the next day though. Your argument is basically "if I died I couldn't tell anyone what I found, but if I lived I didn't want it to be a waste" yet your posts at day beginning show you already knew you would be heavily suspected. Did the thought never occur to you that by using the power, if you managed to live it may exonerate you?I can only use it on one person at a time, and if I died I wouldn't be able to tell anyone anyway. What are people not getting here.
That second part is very likely. I brought it up here.
I had a feeling no one would believe me, so if you guys want to waste a day hyperfocusing on an incorrect target, that's fine. But I also don't want to be a distraction from actual scum, so if you guys just want to bumrush me now, go right had. I'd rather town see the truth and then move on to finding actual scum.
Using your role is about the only chance you had of verifying your PR the next day though. Your argument is basically "if I died I couldn't tell anyone what I found, but if I lived I didn't want it to be a waste" yet your posts at day beginning show you already knew you would be heavily suspected. Did the thought never occur to you that by using the power, if you managed to live it may exonerate you?
And what if I hit someone and they didn't do anything? Then what?
And what if I hit someone and they didn't do anything? Then what?
Would you even really think I was telling the truth? pretty easy to make something like that up, or protect a Scum teammate with this claim, right?
You would probably know that there is a good chance that they don't have a night role and are most likely town. Having that information is better than having no information, I would say.And what if I hit someone and they didn't do anything? Then what?
Would you even really think I was telling the truth? pretty easy to make something like that up, or protect a Scum teammate with this claim, right?
Then you'd be exactly where you are by not doing anything? If you had at least tried then maybe you get lucky and get some information, maybe it's even something actionable and we can verify it over the course of this day cycle. Instead you have no information, which means to get any verification on your role we would have to go through this day cycle, the night cycle, and then another day cycle. That's assuming you even live through all that. If you're scum it also means you would get to live through two extra nights making the path you're on now the best possible long term outcome if you were scum.And what if I hit someone and they didn't do anything? Then what?
Would you even really think I was telling the truth? pretty easy to make something like that up, or protect a Scum teammate with this claim, right?
That was obviously an exaggeration, though I guess a tracker could be useful to town (lol) when there's a lower person count.Then at least you tried. Sitting on a power does nothing for anyone.
Also, you said yesterday (game time) that revealing this role would endanger the entire town, right? Care to explain how it endangers anyone but you since you haven't used it?
If you're scum it also means you would get to live through two extra nights making the path you're on now the best possible long term outcome if you were scum.
That was obviously an exaggeration, though I guess a tracker could be useful to town (lol) when there's a lower person count.
It seems I'm the only one here now. So:
I don't know what are you trying to do here, but I praised his post. I even clarify that so there wasn't any doubts (post 324). I don't know how that can be seen as passive aggressive.
I really want to lynch you, but maybe we should go for your partner Buzzard first.
2 more things before leaving for work: 1) Style if you not lying and you have to option between saving yourself and another player, save the other player. We would most likely lynch you if you are alive and there is a NK.
2) Anyone who doesn't vote or vote not lynch (that doesn't seem like happening luckily) gets a VIP pass to my scum list. Just vote, and don't wait to the last minute, let's avoid crazy things.
Off to work. I'm not going to be at days end because it catches me in my commute. Will try to check on things during the day but I don't know if I can.
Eh, disagree with this. As town, protecting townies is important. Unless you think your lynch is going to lead to important revelations for town, protect yourself if you're town. Unless you're sure the other candidate is town and more useful than you, don't go quietly into the night. The game is a war of attrition among other things. Every town lost is a vote toward majority lost.
If you're a townie, you keep yourself alive unless you are sure your death will benefit the town. It isn't hard. A lot of dumb logic going on today between this coming back and people arguing x-shot tracking prs should have been used already.This exchange is worrying me. I don't like how FEP wanted Style to save himself.
Hey, I'm biased and felt it was either to save herself next day phase or muddy the waters, especially when Flux got NK'ed. It doesn't help that when I came back to the thread yesterday I saw a huge red hammer dropped that got me thinking 'AHA!'This is where my head is at too right now.
So if she was exaggerating, why not reveal the role back when she first exposed herself as having a power role?
What purpose does it serve to withold that info, especially since her PR claim should have made her a prime scum target last night (game time), whether she exposed her actual role or not.
I mean I can see why Star wouldn't want to waste the PR. I can understand not using it night one. I'm going to need better reasoning for not using one on night two when she would still have a second to use in the event that she lived and that it may have been her last chance to try before either being night killed or lynched for looking suspicious from causing the turbo/unsubstantiated role claim.If you're a townie, you keep yourself alive unless you are sure your death will benefit the town. It isn't hard. A lot of dumb logic going on today between this coming back and people arguing x-shot tracking prs should have been used already.
Know what's worse than getting punk'd early without using your pr? Blowing it early and then surviving long enough to not have it in useful circumstances.
I don't like this tendency to use fucking terrible logic to paint people as scummy. You and star still both look bad from d1. If I convinced myself the scum team was dumb enough to put everyone on machina d1 you would be my scum lean before star. That said, you are still null leaning town for me.
Ehh, no issues with Star not tracking. Small issue with claiming. Larger issue with accidentally hammering.
Vote: Plop
Still believe there was scum on Exodu5 but feeling better on this. Here was our scum fence sitter D1, keeping PK on the vote. Goes in hard on Style since style was done anyway. Get some townie points. Now go in hard on Sketch, but honestly I think Sketch will flip town. But if you can get that traction, can get another day of less than ideal conversation along with a townie lynch.
To be fair to plop, I've liked your posting. You had a good breakdown beginning of the day yesterday, I believe. But I still believe there is scum between you and Natiko and I think it is you.
If you're a townie, you keep yourself alive unless you are sure your death will benefit the town. It isn't hard. A lot of dumb logic going on today between this coming back and people arguing x-shot tracking prs should have been used already.
Know what's worse than getting punk'd early without using your pr? Blowing it early and then surviving long enough to not have it in useful circumstances.
I don't like this tendency to use fucking terrible logic to paint people as scummy. You and star still both look bad from d1. If I convinced myself the scum team was dumb enough to put everyone on machina d1 you would be my scum lean before star. That said, you are still null leaning town for me.
I just want to say something. You're a high profile PR, already came out day 2, has suspicions placed upon suspicions so it's debatable how long you can live, whether by NK or lynch. What do you lose by tracking? It's a two use, how many people are going to be here to day 7 or 8?If you're a townie, you keep yourself alive unless you are sure your death will benefit the town. It isn't hard. A lot of dumb logic going on today between this coming back and people arguing x-shot tracking prs should have been used already.
Know what's worse than getting punk'd early without using your pr? Blowing it early and then surviving long enough to not have it in useful circumstances.
I don't like this tendency to use fucking terrible logic to paint people as scummy. You and star still both look bad from d1. If I convinced myself the scum team was dumb enough to put everyone on machina d1 you would be my scum lean before star. That said, you are still null leaning town for me.
He wasn't a townie. I already responded about this day 1. He was getting lynched anyway. I don't like how you protected Style and I don't like how you are protecting SK. You can't expect to live long after roleclaiming.
Huh, is this statistical probability or superstition? We hit 2 scum and lost 3 town, we're in a pretty (very) good position at the moment, considering the alternatives....Do I need to go through pretty much every game where I've had a power role?
Here's an example:
I claimed Jailor in PW and survived 3 days. When I finally DID get night killed, it cost town the game.
I claimed I had a role in Gafia 1 and made it through the whole game.
I feel like I had another instance but it may have been a game I dropped out of.
...Do I need to go through pretty much every game where I've had a power role?
Here's an example:
I claimed Jailor in PW and survived 3 days. When I finally DID get night killed, it cost town the game.
I claimed I had a role in Gafia 1 and made it through the whole game.
I feel like I had another instance but it may have been a game I dropped out of.
I'm leaning town. All the discussion with Exodus seems townie, doesn't look like a ruse between 2 scum players (maybe I'm wrong). Day 2 didn't seems weird either.
I'm more on the idea of using the roles if you have them, even more on the informative roles. Banking on them doesn't do any good as you could be killed during the night without sharing your results. Even info that someone didn't do anything could be good info, as it could lead to clear some name or find contradictions.
franconp, franconp, francop
Adorably great avatar aside, francop is an interesting player. He hits this sweetspot when it comes to activity and presence. Active enough to be memorable, but not to a point where he's clearly compensating or nervous. He's mostly dealt with pressure fairly well and even this framed business seems legit. I'm leaning town for now.
His post is really interesting though. Is there really a neutral player running around?
Every game is different. I roleclaimed day 1 as cop in AC when was scum, didn't get lynched until day 6 or 7 and all my reads (I didn't lie once so they suspected of all my townie reads) almost lead to mafia victory (we lost the last day).
Tracker is a difficult role to lie about being scum. You can mess thing really bad for yourself. But a Tracker who doesn't uses his power can be a scum very easily.
I can only use it on one person at a time, and if I died I wouldn't be able to tell anyone anyway. What are people not getting here.
That second part is very likely. I brought it up here.
I had a feeling no one would believe me, so if you guys want to waste a day hyperfocusing on an incorrect target, that's fine. But I also don't want to be a distraction from actual scum, so if you guys just want to bumrush me now, go right had. I'd rather town see the truth and then move on to finding actual scum.
And what if I hit someone and they didn't do anything? Then what?
Would you even really think I was telling the truth? pretty easy to make something like that up, or protect a Scum teammate with this claim, right?
...So if I'm scum, why would I lie about being Tracker, of all the roles that could possibly be in this game? I could have claimed Doctor or something.
I'm curious to hear what Zipped's theory is, I'm guessing his post on the previous page could have something to do with it.
...So if I'm scum, why would I lie about being Tracker, of all the roles that could possibly be in this game? I could have claimed Doctor or something.
My theory is the Fran and PK are working together, whether both as scum or some other role, I don't know. We already lost our gossip. I was kind of suspicious yesterday of Fran, but nothing complete.
With flux'a death, lack of conversation between the two, I think it's worth talking about at least.
Why do you think I'm still sitting on Vanguard? Both Style and Exodus linked to him earlier in the day phase. If he flips town, thatat least gives me less ammo elsewhere. Your actually question is loaded tho, knowing for sure that fran is town would mean a lot since he's made a lot of reads today but I don't want him flipped yet either.
I would also bring this back. Sorian was right about 2 of this players, why not the third? He was killed the night after he made that post.
Style voted early on Vanguard to try to gain Sorian favour. And Vanguard voted for him early on by RNG. They never discussed between them about their votes, as it was just a excuse.
Oh and I don't believe the night PM to Fran.
Hm, that's true. Who has Vanguard interacted with then?I would also bring this back. Sorian was right about 2 of this players, why not the third? He was killed the night after he made that post.
Style voted early on Vanguard to try to gain Sorian favour. And Vanguard voted for him early on by RNG. They never discussed between them about their votes, as it was just a excuse.
I also was told that if I cast a second vote or don't unvote quickly I would be modkilled, but it was followed by a smile face so maybe Sophia was just joking.....
I'm going to believe you Fran. Hopefully this isn't some convoluted PR nonsense you've got going on where you use a power and lose the ability to vote. Benefit of the doubt though.Please do not use commands that you are not permitted to
(and please unvote so that it's not counted on the voting tool)
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I'm going to believe you Fran. Hopefully this isn't some convoluted PR nonsense you've got going on where you use a power and lose the ability to vote. Benefit of the doubt though.
No role. Ordinary town. I have the exact role PM as the sample and flux.
I'd like to preface my post with the fact that StarSketch tried her best to be inactive on Days 1 and 2. The majority of that time was before she claimed to have a PR and seemed to be attempting to slide by without being obvious.
If her PR claim is true, she's not using her power to help town advance the game. If she's scum, she's trying to use this claim to hide in plain sight and benefit from our mercy.
This is the second time you appear to be attempting suicide. The first can be found here.
I'm sorry, but I don't believe you. You're either scum or an incompetent town. You've had power roles in the past and knew better than to sit around doing nothing. The general tone of your posts is that you'd rather be doing something else than sitting around here defending yourself and I'm happy to oblige you.
Vanguard and BB are still my top suspects. I would have voted Vanguard if Style wasn't a factor and I believe I said as much in the previous day phase. I would again be voting for him now but this SS stuff has me reconsidering.I would also bring this back. Sorian was right about 2 of this players, why not the third? He was killed the night after he made that post.
Style voted early on Vanguard to try to gain Sorian favour. And Vanguard voted for him early on by RNG. They never discussed between them about their votes, as it was just a excuse.
That was pretty convincing, but I didn't expect it to be a lie since it would have been a really convoluted one to come up with when there are more simplistic ones (like perhaps a tracker PR).Unvote
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Hi everyone!
Did anyone else notice that the sample role doesn't have a winning condition? I did and it's strange.
Also this game had a complexity level of medium so it means that it isn't some classic mafia game. I was expecting something at game start but there wasn't. So there should be some kind of game mechanic that we still don't know. I have a few theories, but to not repeat the same mistakes as Overwatch (and sound crazy) I will keep them to myself for a couple of days.
If you think about the exchange between Sorian and Ty and the reads Ty said he had about me it would be logical to think he investigated me. So I would be the most obvious. But I'm town and don't have anything to lose so I don't care. If I'm lynched to town benefit so be it. It won't be the first time.