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EA's exclusivity of Porsche licence expiring this year, won't be renewed

I read something about Porsche no longer considering exclusivity deals at all, so I'm hoping everyone will benefit.

Now, Playground, please put some 911s in my Forza Horizon 3.
 

IISANDERII

Member
I read some years ago that Porsche was losing huge amounts of mind share and likely sales amongst younger customers because Porsche had little presence in mainstream games, specifically GT.
 

Noobcraft

Member
I read something about Porsche no longer considering exclusivity deals at all, so I'm hoping everyone will benefit.

Now, Playground, please put some 911s in my Forza Horizon 3.
Porsches were in FM6 and Horizon 2, and will almost certainly be added to FH3 next year.
 

Stillmatic

Member
Can't say I've missed their cars in other games, though more options the better.

For a game/publisher/dev I can't imagine deals like these work out well for them. I doubt the number of people that buy the game where Porsche was a factor make back the money of the deal.
 
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Sweet news. Hopefully no dick bollocks exclusive deals. I want GT Forza and any PC sim to be able to get a license.
 
Great news. What have EA actually done with it?

Very little! That's what was most annoying about it. Let's look at Porsche and NFS over the past decade

NFS: Carbon
Cover Cars - Lancer Evolution IX & Dodge Challenger
Porsche count - 5

NFS ProStreet
Cover Car - Nissan GT-R
Porsche count - 6

NFS Undercover
Cover Car - Porsche 911 GT2
Porsche count - 5

NFS: Shift
Cover Car - BMW M3 E92 GT3
Porsche count - 5

NFS: Hot Pursuit
Cover Cars - Pagani Zonda Cinque & Lamborghini Reventon
Porsche count - 12

NFS: Shift 2
Cover Car - Nissan GT-R & Maserati GranTurismo S
Porsche count - 10

NFS: The Run
Cover Car - Shelby GT500 Super Snake
Porsche count - 5

NFS: Most Wanted
Cover Car - Porsche 911 Carrera S & Aston Martin V12 Vantage
Porsche count - 6

NFS: Rivals
Cover Cars - Ferrari F12 Berlinetta & Koenigsegg Agera R
Porsche count - 5

Need for Speed
Cover Car - Subaru BRZ & Porsche 911 Carrera RSR 2.8
Porsche count - 6

So, it was only on the cover of the series 3 times during that period and only once did Porsche have more cars than any other manufacturer in the game. But somehow they needed the license for all of that. I started a decade ago because a fan visited Polyphony around 2005/6 and asked Kaz when Porsche would be in the series. Kaz told him that they were currently in negotiations because EA's contract was about to expire. Fast forward a year and he was asked again and said that the negotiations were off because EA decide to re-up their contract. For what exactly is anyones guess because all it really seemed to accomplish is that it kept the cars out of other games.
 

jm89

Member
Nobody is gonna pay for that shit license, porsche isn't going to magically turn you turd game into something special.
 

patchday

Member
This is really is excellent news. EA has oppressed racing fans for far too long with exclusive Porche license.

yeah hopefully Microsoft doesn't swoop in. I also consider that company oppressive to racing fans. I bought a Porche racing wheel for x360 and the new X1 console doesnt support old wheels. So jumped ship to PS4 and havent looked back. Which is a shame cause Forza is a mighty fine racing series!! But I'm not using a controller and got too many racing wheels at my house (so not buying a new one again)
 

plidex

Member
Finally! Now iRacing can have some Porsches.

Very little! That's what was most annoying about it. Let's look at Porsche and NFS over the past decade

NFS: Carbon
Cover Cars - Lancer Evolution IX & Dodge Challenger
Porsche count - 5

NFS ProStreet
Cover Car - Nissan GT-R
Porsche count - 6

NFS Undercover
Cover Car - Porsche 911 GT2
Porsche count - 5

NFS: Shift
Cover Car - BMW M3 E92 GT3
Porsche count - 5

NFS: Hot Pursuit
Cover Cars - Pagani Zonda Cinque & Lamborghini Reventon
Porsche count - 12

NFS: Shift 2
Cover Car - Nissan GT-R & Maserati GranTurismo S
Porsche count - 10

NFS: The Run
Cover Car - Shelby GT500 Super Snake
Porsche count - 5

NFS: Most Wanted
Cover Car - Porsche 911 Carrera S & Aston Martin V12 Vantage
Porsche count - 6

NFS: Rivals
Cover Cars - Ferrari F12 Berlinetta & Koenigsegg Agera R
Porsche count - 5

Need for Speed
Cover Car - Subaru BRZ & Porsche 911 Carrera RSR 2.8
Porsche count - 6

So, it was only on the cover of the series 3 times during that period and only once did Porsche have more cars than any other manufacturer in the game. But somehow they needed the license for all of that. I started a decade ago because a fan visited Polyphony around 2005/6 and asked Kaz when Porsche would be in the series. Kaz told him that they were currently in negotiations because EA's contract was about to expire. Fast forward a year and he was asked again and said that the negotiations were off because EA decide to re-up their contract. For what exactly is anyones guess because all it really seemed to accomplish is that it kept the cars out of other games.

Who cares about covers?
 

Kinyou

Member
I cant imagine anyone taking that deal. Racing games aren't as popular anymore and it's hard to imagine that any consumer would be swayed by exclusive Porsche cars anyway.
 
The way I've understood it is that EA hasn't had an exclusivity deal. They've had the rights to distribute the license for Porsche.

Naturally, this means they can use it for cheap and others have to pay up.

I'm guessing Porsche is now going to handle licensing themselves moving forward.
 

psilva

Member
Maybe Codemasters could whip something up?

I wish Codemasters would license other racing series, or make one game with various series included, like WEC, Formula E, among others. Not that they'd necessarily be the best ones to execute but definitely the most likely.
 

Jamesways

Member
Very little! That's what was most annoying about it. Let's look at Porsche and NFS over the past decade.
As stated on the first page, don't forget Real Racing 3.
22 Porsches included in there. Sad that a mobile game has more than any console or PC game.

I really enjoy the Porsches in RR3. I love Assetto Corsa and Project CARS, but with small children console time is cut significantly.

Thank god this deal is done.
 

Synth

Member
Sega's OutRun and Sega Rally games were delisted after the car licenses expired for them. Guess it depends on the terms.

Even GTA: San Andreas wasn't immune to it, on the music licensing side.

Music licenses are far more likely to take a game offline than the cars imo.

The music is a one-off kinda deal for that game, whereas if you're looking to make a sequel to a racer, you'll likely require the same car licenses anyway.

The Outrun and Sega Rally problem is more that Sega are out of that arena entirely, with the exception of Daytona USA, so Ferrari, WRC and the various cars have no business reason to be renewed.
 

Easy_D

never left the stone age
I wish Codemasters would license other racing series, or make one game with various series included, like WEC, Formula E, among others. Not that they'd necessarily be the best ones to execute but definitely the most likely.

I thought Dirt Rally was supposed to be really good? I haven't played any of theirs since Dirt 2, but that game was a ton of fun, terrible presentation aside.
 

Azzawon

Member
What was their previous deal? Like 20 years? Crazy agreement.

Whatever it was, it was far too long. It's also near impossible to say either party got any benefit out of it. Maybe EA got some pocket money from MS for their Porsche DLC packs in Forza but that's about it. I think it unintentionally looked bad on Porsche if anything from a car perspective.
 
Music licenses are far more likely to take a game offline than the cars imo.

The music is a one-off kinda deal for that game, whereas if you're looking to make a sequel to a racer, you'll likely require the same car licenses anyway.

The Outrun and Sega Rally problem is more that Sega are out of that arena entirely, with the exception of Daytona USA, so Ferrari, WRC and the various cars have no business reason to be renewed.

Thanks, that makes more sense. I suspected that was why the original Forza Horizon got taken offline weeks after it became available on 360 backwards compatibility. Kudos to MS for bothering to preserve the disc-version of the game for future compatibility.

This is why I'm worried Burnout Paradise will get taken down too, it's nearly a decade old and it has licensed music.
 
Good.

Firstly, I never cared for the brand in NFS or any other EA series.

Secondly, only racing game series I want from EA is Burnout, which didn't use licensed cars because no one wanted their brand associated with a series where you wreck like Burnout

Thirdly: EA can eat me with their exclusivity deals - I guarantee Madden would've lost it's sales spot to competition, and the lack of a monopoly allows everyone to compete and force improvement of their competitors as a result.
 

down 2 orth

Member
If I had to venture a guess, Porsche missed out on a lot of good publicity having their cars represented by Ruf in games that are way better and way more popular than anything EA put out. It was probably a huge mistake on their part.
 

Zojirushi

Member
What has EA even done with that license lately besides putting Porsches in underground tuning games where they seemed super out of place anyway?
 
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