I heard it throttles to 400mhz though I don't have a pixel c to check myself.
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Nintendo Switch Dev Kit Stats Leaked? Cortex A57, 4GB RAM, 32GB Storage, Multi-Touch.
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I heard it throttles to 400mhz though I don't have a pixel c to check myself.
No way to manually set the fan?
Bearing in mind that the July EG/DF article reported audible noise level with TX1...
Correct. It seems all they did was redesign some hardware and update the OS with new apps etc.
There is an option in the system menu to select performance or optimised setting. I have had it on performance mode, and when I stress test the CPU you can just about hear the fan, it's still very quiet. About the same as an idle-ish Macbook? Maybe performance mode is broken, hah.
Got the CPU to top out at 51c this time over a longer duration (5 minutes).
The 2015 shield tv is 4k and HDR capable as well.
That's probably its maximum speed before thermal throttling, since it doesn't have a fan to cool the SoC.
Pixel C runs the GPU at 850mhz, that is the unthrottled speed. I heard the throttled speed was 400mhz but I'm only adding that to the discussion as grey info, since I can't check it myself.
Yeah its actually interesting with your information included. Gives a whole new view of the X1 really. Seems like its max Performance is not nearly as easy to hit as a lot were thinking.
Yeah I was trying to find more info but all I could find is someone complaining their pixel C was throttling down to 200mhz with some bug
lwilliams3
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So, does this mean that all of the benchmarks for Tegra Shield had the GPU running at around 315 GFLOPS max? Hmm.
TLZ
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Don't know if this was talked about already, but one of SMD's latest tubes he says the Wii u actually has 350gflops and not 176gflops based on Eurogamer's article, http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/df-hardware-wii-u-graphics-power-finally-revealed
Wouldn't this put the switch speculated 400gflops close to Wii u's 350gflops? Therefore hardly a power boost? Or how does this work?
TheGreatMightyPoo
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He fell faster than Sean Murray.
One of them getting paid though.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Google-Pixel-C-Tablet-Review.158868.0.html
pixel c throttles down to 400mhz and according to the above link the heat under max load is 42.3 C , then switch's 307.2mhz requires a fan for further cooling ?
lwilliams3
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TLZ
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Did you guys bother reading the article at least? I don't know the maths here but SMD quoted Eurogamer's article, the one I linked, and he apparently did the maths and came up with 350gf instead of 176gf. I linked so someone knowledgeable can read and check this. If I knew how I'd have done it myself. And if it's really 350gf that puts it close to switch's speculated 400gf. And I'd like to know what that could mean power and performance wise. If anyone's going to shit post please don't bother. Someone knowledagble is welcome as I'm lacking in that department and I'm seeking it.
I'll quote this part from the article since no one bothers reading:
The consensus is Wii U is 176gflops, and this is also a fine example as to why flops shouldn't be the primary focus of discussion when talking about power of a console. Let's say the Wii U was 350gflops and Switch is 400gflops. Switch would still outperform the Wii U thanks to modern tech and compatibility with engines like Unreal Engine 4.
Here's the GAF thread that declared it to be 176gflops: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=511628
TLZ
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Excuse my ignorance in this subject, I've always read this and expected to take it at face value, but can someone show me real life examples/comparisons of 2 architectures having almost similar gf/tf with the lower one outperforming the other by miles because it's modern? I honestly and genuinely want to see this. And please no one respond with "it's not about power". I am very interested in tech talk but sometimes things like these I don't comprehend and would like to be enlightened.
Because he's linking the Eurogamer article....
Yeah, that's basically what I thought based on en-Hsun not hyping Pascal / Tegra Parker or an "X2" chip.
So then what was the point of the new Shield TV at all? Just a slimmer refresh?
Seems like its just about refreshing and trying to generate new 4k Hype.
Only the basic has a slimmer design. The Pro remains the same size as the original
Schnozberry
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TLZ
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I would like ONE person to answer me seriously in here. How'd SMD use these numbers reported by Eurogamer:
to reach 350gf?
Can someone who knows how these work show me how to calculate these?
EDIT: Thanks Nate for that thread. I'll look through it.
Would still like someone knowledgeable to show me simple calculations here.
Stay out of this discussion please.
to reach 350gf?
Can someone who knows how these work show me how to calculate these?
EDIT: Thanks Nate for that thread. I'll look through it.
Would still like someone knowledgeable to show me simple calculations here.
Stay out of this discussion please.
So tell me if i've got this right...from this information..
Switch's GPU clock speed is actually 25% higher than the Shield's GPU in average use, contrary to previous information? And the misconception with the Shield was that it was running at Tegra X1's maximum clock potential(1ghz) as opposed to a lower clock speed?And the CPU is still half.
Switch's GPU clock speed is actually 25% higher than the Shield's GPU in average use, contrary to previous information? And the misconception with the Shield was that it was running at Tegra X1's maximum clock potential(1ghz) as opposed to a lower clock speed?And the CPU is still half.
lightchris
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We know the clock speed: 550 MHz (I believe it was revealed by fail0verflow).
We count each clock twice because FMA (fuse multiply add: multiplication and addition in one step) is standard for GPUs.
320 (SPs) * 0.55 (GHz) * 2 (FMA) = 352. The problem is, there's most likely only 160 SPs, not 320. So, 176 GFLOPs.
lwilliams3
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I believe FourthStorm and z0m3le counted 20 alus in each of the 8 shader units instead of 40.
lightchris
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Exactly. We also had an insider supporting this, iirc (don't have the source anymore though).
ShadowFox08
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Tarin02543
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Holy ****, it's almost the 12th.
th3sicknness
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I just hope it is noticeably better than the Wii U so people can stfu.
Cuningas de Häme
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But he found something negative about Switch's performance, surely it must be true!
MDave is a hero and should get a medal or at least a cookie. This is the reason one should never set anything in stone before all the facts is known. It is really curious that no one thought of testing the Shield before MDave. I mean, isn't that a big part of the puzzle especially when comparing performance?
MDave is a hero and should get a medal or at least a cookie. This is the reason one should never set anything in stone before all the facts is known. It is really curious that no one thought of testing the Shield before MDave. I mean, isn't that a big part of the puzzle especially when comparing performance?
lwilliams3
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Perhaps roughly 50% due to architecture improvements.
I'm starting to understand how fake news has become such a huge industry.
TLZ
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Thank you very much! So now I know how he's reached that number.
And checking Thraktor's thread, it seems Eurogamer's article is actually based on Thraktor's findings (?), which has 320:16:8. Then there's z0m3le's post from that thread:
So I understand it's 20 vs 40 ALUs. 20 ALUs = 176GF and 40 ALUs = 352GF. Correct? Have we reached the 100% conclusion it's 20 ALUs?
ShadowFox08
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SuperMetalDave... and this MDave. How do we know they aren't the same person. 
Smd is trevelyan on gaf. Could be an alt account but I wouldn't bet on itSuperMetalDave... and this MDave. How do we know they aren't the same person.
TLZ
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If the article's wrong, then Thraktor's wrong, btw, since it was based on Thraktor's thread. I'm reading Thraktor's thread and still reading posts but it has 200+ pages and it's not easy going through all of them to reach the definite conclusion. Some here prefer to troll instead of pointing me to the proper answer. "SMD IS SHIT!!11!!1" is not an answer.
Can you please be a kind soul like a couple here and point me to that post that proves this article wrong so I can put this to rest?
McGruber21
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If I remember correctly, there was a dev kit leak sometime around the early part of the Wii U's life that pretty much solidified what the performance was. I'm a Wii U developer, but I'm under NDA and can't provide any information on this. However, do some searching and you should be able to find what you need. I can't remember who leaked it or when it was leaked exactly.
crazy monkey
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I do not think they will spend a minute even on how much power this thing has. My guess is its wiiu level or 360 level which is fine with me.
I Hope they show lots of cool games. I am looking forward to seeing more of controller and portable mode.
I Hope they show lots of cool games. I am looking forward to seeing more of controller and portable mode.
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