RichiRamjag
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Rime looked like shit too, but I agree with your point.
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Scalebound cancelled [Platinum Games and Kamiya have commented]
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Rime looked like shit too, but I agree with your point.
MS should sell the xbox division because a dev couldn't get their project under control?
Papacheeks
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LOL no.
Phil has done shit to acquire new studios and bring back old franchises. Also I would argue depending on his muscle he doesn't call the shots on a lot of the financial stuff.
If I took the job first thing would be talked about to the baord is, all that money we wasted on TV/Kinect needs to be put into games. New studios, old franchises revived, and new IP's with great partnerships.
MS should have gone back to their roots, would have been cool to have them contract a game with Bungie, or Sega. Build some bridges, but they have a tendency to just have higher ups dictate the games development. Fable legends should have just come out on PC and xbox, then have content curation be handled by a smaller studio with Lion HEad over seeing while working on a new IP.
Seriously wtf is going on over at Xbox. If people here think a new 6+TF console is going to save or reinvigorate the brand you've got a rude awakening coming. Games sell consoles period.
Well that Kinect sure is fun, oh wait.
Well we still have Project Spark..
Hmm, looking forward to the new Fable game!
At least Lionhead will make something new in the future, oh..
Forget all that, Scalebound!
You can say a lot about Microsoft, afraid to kill of projects is not one of them.
Well we still have Project Spark..
Hmm, looking forward to the new Fable game!
At least Lionhead will make something new in the future, oh..
Forget all that, Scalebound!
You can say a lot about Microsoft, afraid to kill of projects is not one of them.
FunkyPajamas
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They still have some games coming...
wild wild rice
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Rest up, Kamiya. I know you still got it.
Stress during development and the cancellation probably led to health issues, all we have is that tweet as proof.
Putting this in screencap form so it doesn't go unnoticed (source is a Persona Central writer)
Saddening news if this is true.
Goodness. Best of luck to the man. Work isn't worth being unwell over.
kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
That's my view too. If PG had made a game tailormade to their strengths it might have worked, but adding 4 player co-op to a massive open world game was probably far too ambitious and overstretched the capabilities of PG.
I don't care for online multiplayer at all and I'm getting tired of open world games where most of the time I'm hunting for flags/boxes/ore/bullets/etc, doing fetch quests, grinding to acquire skills/weapon upgrades/etc and traversing a humongous world instead of fighting foes and having fun.
Who would want to buy it?
I'm struggling to see the relevance of who was in charge of Xbox when greenlighting games.
If mattrick greenlit this, that still means that the progress of the title has been under constant supervision of Spencer. And Spencer was the one making the decision to cancel it, likely buckling under the pressure of higher ups and investors. Same with Fable. Same with Phantom Dust. Same with Press Play. Project Spark too.
And even when Mattrick was head of Xbox, Spencer was head of Microsoft first party studios so he would have been the go-to guy supervising these projects anyway.
If mattrick greenlit this, that still means that the progress of the title has been under constant supervision of Spencer. And Spencer was the one making the decision to cancel it, likely buckling under the pressure of higher ups and investors. Same with Fable. Same with Phantom Dust. Same with Press Play. Project Spark too.
And even when Mattrick was head of Xbox, Spencer was head of Microsoft first party studios so he would have been the go-to guy supervising these projects anyway.
This is tragic, especially for Kamiya, hope he gets better. Extra painful that it took 4 years of development to reach this point. The game looked like it was pretty far in, so much work that has to be scrapped. Must admit though that the latest demo they showed last year didn't look too hot. I still hoped it'd turn out out fine eventually, but alas.
Fuck, beat me to it lol
But do they really care about the game industry? They have a lot money but it seems like they don't invest it in the Xbox Division. I just want Amazon to buy them.
There was people buying a PS3 for Last Guardian also. Do not buy a console for a non released game. Ever.
But really what MS has to offer from 1st party games this year beside Forza 7? Coalition is not ready for next announcement, 343 even if it is ready to announce something it is not ready to release it. That leaves only Sea of Thieves that it is not heavy hitter (and i personally think that it won;t do great). They have nothing and they will need so much luck to get out of this trouble that they need to pray to any god they can think of.
This far from being that clear cut. Platinum's track record in very recent years + them jumping into countless projects say they absolutely have to shoulder some blame.
i remember people here trashing it after every showing
Irishonion
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How far along do you guys think this game was?
We had a very small slice of gameplay in that alpha beta video, showing some basic stuff.
Then that E3 or gamescon(it's all freaking blurry) video that was even more basic and just plain terrible.
Man so frustrated, dragons are some of my favorite fictional beast.
We had a very small slice of gameplay in that alpha beta video, showing some basic stuff.
Then that E3 or gamescon(it's all freaking blurry) video that was even more basic and just plain terrible.
Man so frustrated, dragons are some of my favorite fictional beast.
SneakersSO
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No. Teaser trailers is exactly how they got in this mess. People lambast Sony for this, but MS is just as culpable for announcing games way too far out as well.
MS needs to make a show of committing to new games creation. They need to open at least 1 or 2 new studios, at the very least.
Putting this in screencap form so it doesn't go unnoticed (source is a Persona Central writer)
Saddening news if this is true.
Microsoft, please just stick to Halo/Forza/Gears in future and stay away from the industry's treasured creatives.
Relaxed Muscle
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I wonder who was the idea of the 4 co-op mode.
TheOfficeMut
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I can't access Twitter here. What is going on with Kamiya that a Twitter link keeps getting quoted?
Gamer @ Heart
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Guys microsfot isn't in the business of canceling good games.
They threw away the costs of 3+ years of active development. That should tell you something was seriously wrong.
They threw away the costs of 3+ years of active development. That should tell you something was seriously wrong.
"Sir, the tweets! There's too many!"
"Damn it! Call HQ! I guess the babies gotta have their bottle..."
"So the game isn't canceled, sir?"
"No. Fuck it. We'll sell them that broken piece of shit if that's what they want."
"B....but sir, they'll put a dollar sign in our name and-"
"ANYTHING IS BETTER THAN THE TWEETS!!"
ChosenPredator
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you see who they are when threads like this appear, it's sad news in general for all gamers that this won't happen.
Seth Balmore
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That's fucking devastating if true. I love Kamiya.
I hope he and his team are alright.ASilentProtagonist
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Sony should pick it up.
I knew it was something to do with the engine. Platinum is just used to theirs.
a Master Ninja
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I would have bought this day one on Kamiya's name alone. This sucks.
Gorilla Blade
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One of only 2 Xbox games I was looking forward to (the other was crackdown). Good thing I held up on getting an xbox.
Barry Burton
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This is a shame. Scalebound was one of the few upcoming XBO exclusives I was looking forward to, and even though it looked shaky the last time it was shown publicly, I still always figured with Kamiya at the helm that it would come together well enough in the end.
EDIT: Also, very sad to hear that he's been dealing with health problems (if that's true). He's one of my favorite video game designers. Get well soon, Kamiya.
EDIT: Also, very sad to hear that he's been dealing with health problems (if that's true). He's one of my favorite video game designers. Get well soon, Kamiya.
FunkyPajamas
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Amazon Games or the Ouya.
Conkerkid11
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Just skimming the thread: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1324463
Seems to be on quite a few lists.
Ended at #22, so not particularly.
godhandiscen
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As, someone who has been enjoying single player adventures, I was looking forward to this game. Sucks to hear it got cancelled.
I wish MS released a triple AAA RPG exclusive nonetheless.
I wish MS released a triple AAA RPG exclusive nonetheless.
Diprosalic
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there's zero reasons for Sony or Nintendo to be even interested.
only reasonable guess would be Amazon but even that is a quite the stretch.
Elvin Atombender
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I hope Platinum and it´s staff come out of this OK.
It's starting to look a bit thin for MS when it comes to exclusives.
It's starting to look a bit thin for MS when it comes to exclusives.
baberunisei
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From everything I read up to now the only thing that ends up important is Kamiya's health. I'm sure the cancellation will be a good thing for him in the long run, though. I've been through a severe case of anxiety disorder for the past months and know how suffering it can be. But recovering is very possible and I'm sure you will get it soon, mr Kamiya, whatever is your issue.
... or the other way. Maybe Kamiya was having issues and cancelling the project he was leading was the only option. We dont know. Wish him the best.
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