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Scalebound cancelled [Platinum Games and Kamiya have commented]
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EVA UNIT 01
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I wasnt too hot on SB after the latest showing, and ive hated the MC since day 1.
But i was still willing to give it a shot in hopes it improved.
Plus I just wanted another good game for my XB1.
My XB1 really is at this point a 5 game machine.
But if anything this makes me feel less bad about dropping so much $ for Niers black box edition
But i was still willing to give it a shot in hopes it improved.
Plus I just wanted another good game for my XB1.
My XB1 really is at this point a 5 game machine.
But if anything this makes me feel less bad about dropping so much $ for Niers black box edition
FinaruDensetsu
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Nah. Expect more MOBA, Overwatch, and Counterstrike type games. Also mobile games, but except they run on everything W10 runs on.
Even Sony is with their Forward Works studio and also Fate/Grand Order in Japan. I think because the Company as a whole is not doing well though, that they'll still satisfied with the small profits in the console space. MS is a different story where Xbox is a blip on the map for them, so those same profits that work for Sony, don't necessarily work for them. Just a matter of scale.
The Antitype
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They've turned Halo, GoW and Forza into this model via their lootbox/card systems. It's not that hard to turn 60 full games into extended service models.
Majmun
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I don't understand the scorpio mentions...
Isn't the Scorpio supposed to be the Pro version of X1?
Meaning: All Scorpio games will be playable on X1. So I don't know why Scorpio would resurrect this game, or any other game...
Maximilian Kolbe
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Because not many consumers care about this game at all.
Well, at least before this news.
I don't get why people were so harsh on the game. The last showing was clearly from a game still at least 1,5 years from release, had it been given ample time to be finished. They could've obviously polished it up a lot between those kinds of unfinished showings and release.
Just feels more like Microsoft had unrealistic expectations of how quickly they wanted this game finished (expecting Kamiya to finish his most ambitious game so far in 3-3,5 years is unrealistic, considering his more straightforward games have taken 3,5-4 years to develop) and then, when that kind of tight schedule caused problems (people on the verge of burnouts or even totally burnt out, it sounds like), they decided that it wouldn't be in their interests to give it the time & effort it still needed to actually be finished (which I'm going to assume might've meant it slipping to 2018).
Just feels more like Microsoft had unrealistic expectations of how quickly they wanted this game finished (expecting Kamiya to finish his most ambitious game so far in 3-3,5 years is unrealistic, considering his more straightforward games have taken 3,5-4 years to develop) and then, when that kind of tight schedule caused problems (people on the verge of burnouts or even totally burnt out, it sounds like), they decided that it wouldn't be in their interests to give it the time & effort it still needed to actually be finished (which I'm going to assume might've meant it slipping to 2018).
Nintendo isn't either? Yea they haven't released shit for Wii U but it's pretty obvious it's caused everything has moved to the Switch.
therealbigrich
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Apparently. Can't see a good reason to ship anymore console's at this rate .(sarcasm)
Crimson_Gold
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It's as good as done then
I think people need to remember that shuttering this game was probably the best outcome, unless they spent another five years on development. When MS is open to releasing and (somewhat) marketing ReCore but not something like this...there's gotta be problems behind the scenes.
And those problems have to be severe enough to wash out the money they've already poured into the project. They probably didn't gleefully call up Kamiya and tell him to get lost.
And those problems have to be severe enough to wash out the money they've already poured into the project. They probably didn't gleefully call up Kamiya and tell him to get lost.
There we are.
I imagine this is where the idea for the awful Expedition mode and the microtransaction cards came from for Rise of the Tomb Raider as well?
The increase of lotteries and gambling in full price games is gross. I'm guilty of supporting a handful of these games myself, like Forza Horizon and Call of Duty.
Well there's the Scorpio mention!
Iriscomeback
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Although the demo is awesome and I'm excited for it, it will probably bomb commercially...
Mediocre games are a dime a dozen.
This is interesting because it's a high profile exclusive, one of the few MS has, being cancelled after years of development.
The game could have came out and been a fart in the wind. The story is more interesting.
SplitYourInfinities
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So you are giving me the reason.
It's a niche game, as much as people are excited about it on internet forums is not going to move big numbers, and no way it's going to sell enough to make up for Scalebound loses.
Blackleg-sanji1
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I live in a world where recore lives and I'm denied the opportunity to fly around on a customizable dragon with my bros in a nice lil open world.
Why idc whose fault it was Dammit it still stings
Why idc whose fault it was Dammit it still stings
rocketskates
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This thread isn't made up of 70 pages of people who bought a One specifically and showing dissapointment Sure, there are some of those people here but the other people in here are simply stating that the news isn't surprising one bit and saw this coming. I was interested, own a One, but it's not the reason I bought a One.
ElfArmy177
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Ugh platinum us so overrated anyways... What did you guys expect? As a gamer who.. loves games, especially fond of many Japanese games... I own zero platinum...
They are a one or two hit wonder and otherwise release trash.
They are a one or two hit wonder and otherwise release trash.
Audioboxer
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Press sneak fuck is the CBOAT we need.
Maximilian Kolbe
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This is why i said we won't get big change of our visions because that's what they're doing it already.
Mass Effect
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Well, between you, Zhuge, SneakersSO, shinobi, Nirolak, and Stump now all saying the same thing... it doesn't inspire a lot of confidence.
It was a dude wearing headphones riding Dragons. I'm sure some mainstream Xbox fans were looking forward to this or at least were aware of its existence.
dragonelite
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Who is actually the IP owner?
THen I truly believe they pampered the wrong one. Seriously where do they get off acting like Nintendo 1993 when they aren't even Nintendo 2015 on the counts of Japanese support and developers?
BananasWithGuns
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Cuphead is not being published by MS and it's also coming to Steam.
Confused as to why I keep seeing that game brought up.
Confused as to why I keep seeing that game brought up.
SomewhatGroovy
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Exactly.
moltonasty
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you say this is as if xbox was ever actually there to begin with.
Relaxed Muscle
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Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Unless the situation has completely changed since the last I spoke with those guys that game is fine.
Obliterator
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Nintendo does not make narrative focused games by and large, no (though there are a few exceptions)
They make games with great single player content though.
Sumio Mondo
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That also sell well. Let's not forget that part since without those sales, they would go in the same direction too. Let's not kid ourselves here. I mean, Sony's line up this gen has been fantastic for me don't get me wrong or anything but this might be the direction they go in the future as well depending how things play out this gen... :/
I am disappointed, but unlike most here, I'm not assuming it is big bad MS's fault. The project was clearly in rough waters, the last few gameplay showings were incredibly underwhelming.
I think Kamiya and PG probably got in over their heads in terms of what they wanted to do with the game, found out a lot of it wasn't as easy as they thought, got overwhelmed, started falling behind.
At some point it just becomes throwing good money after bad. At this point MS could probably finish it and not spend a penny on marketing (remember marketing can cost just as much as development), but then everyone here would be blaming them for not marketing it well when it flopped. MS is in a no win scenario, especially since this seems to be a repeat of Fable Legends.
I can't fault them for cutting their losses. They aren't the market leader. They already dumped a lot of money on the risk, and it wasn't panning out. Sunk costs are irrelevant, so even though they already spent 3-4 years and who knows how many millions supporting PG, looking forward it must have been in such a bad place that they saw no possible way for it to be worth it, even as a diversity title.
It sucks, no doubt about it. But this isn't some arbitrary and capricious decision by malicious Phil Spencer in an attempt to turn Xbox into a HALOGEARSFORZA only machine. I'm positive there is some fault to lay at both parties. But we've seen both Sony and MS separating the wheat from the chaff. Studios that finish projects on time and on budget are more valuable than ones that are wildcards. Project management is just as important as development and vision.
Who knows, maybe if MS kept pouring money down the drain, this game would have come out to 10/10s and sold 10 million consoles in Japan it's first week, and every PS4 owner would switch consoles just to play it. But most likely it would have come out, been really buggy, not charted on NPD, and been used as laughing stock and fanboy fodder and only damaged the brand more. It's a no win scenario, and I'm bummed I'll never play this game.
I think Kamiya and PG probably got in over their heads in terms of what they wanted to do with the game, found out a lot of it wasn't as easy as they thought, got overwhelmed, started falling behind.
At some point it just becomes throwing good money after bad. At this point MS could probably finish it and not spend a penny on marketing (remember marketing can cost just as much as development), but then everyone here would be blaming them for not marketing it well when it flopped. MS is in a no win scenario, especially since this seems to be a repeat of Fable Legends.
I can't fault them for cutting their losses. They aren't the market leader. They already dumped a lot of money on the risk, and it wasn't panning out. Sunk costs are irrelevant, so even though they already spent 3-4 years and who knows how many millions supporting PG, looking forward it must have been in such a bad place that they saw no possible way for it to be worth it, even as a diversity title.
It sucks, no doubt about it. But this isn't some arbitrary and capricious decision by malicious Phil Spencer in an attempt to turn Xbox into a HALOGEARSFORZA only machine. I'm positive there is some fault to lay at both parties. But we've seen both Sony and MS separating the wheat from the chaff. Studios that finish projects on time and on budget are more valuable than ones that are wildcards. Project management is just as important as development and vision.
Who knows, maybe if MS kept pouring money down the drain, this game would have come out to 10/10s and sold 10 million consoles in Japan it's first week, and every PS4 owner would switch consoles just to play it. But most likely it would have come out, been really buggy, not charted on NPD, and been used as laughing stock and fanboy fodder and only damaged the brand more. It's a no win scenario, and I'm bummed I'll never play this game.
The fuck? Nothing wrong with W101
Banjo-Kazooie
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NinjaCoachZ
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Microsoft. Platinum don't own any of the IPs for games they develop.
They got a new CEO last year though, and one of his resolutions for the next 3 years was to make their first game that they completely own themselves.
Omega Kirby
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It's a marketing campaign. Pretend the game is cancelled, get the attention of everybody then release it around the Switch release with $200 Xbox S bundle
It just doesn't make for a well-rounded platform, plus creating something wildly successful like Minecraft is ultra rare.
Yup.. the X1 is slowly turning into a Windows Store portal that sells microtransaction-portals (that happen to be designed as games)
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