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"Dies Irae English Localization Project!" Kickstarter (Steam w/ Vita stretch goal)

Can't you choose the PC tier and change for the Vita version/tier later on?

Once the Stretch Goal has been reached, backers who have pledged for the $100 reward tier and up will have the PS Vita release included. For other pledges after the Stretch Goal is met, the PS Vita digital release will be available as an add-on for $35.

Not from what I can tell. Either add $35 to your pledge after $200k has been met, or pledge more than $100.

Neither of which I really want to do. I'd rather just pledge $35 now.
 

Shizuka

Member
Pledge $1 and add $35. They won't track if your additional $35 was added before or after the 200k stretch goal has been met.
 
And that's what I'm talking about, how do you expect a $35 Vita tier when the Vita goal hasn't been met yet?

The same way Sharin no Kuni handled it. Pledge at any tier containing a PC version and you get the Vita version instead if it's met. Rather than this weird "pledge what you want but then add $35" crap that's on show here, that I still don't really understand.

edit: Perhaps a separate tier was a poor choice, but still, there must be a better way than "$100 or x + $35 to get it"
 

Shizuka

Member
The same way Sharin no Kuni handled it. Pledge at any tier containing a PC version and you get the Vita version instead if it's met. Rather than this weird "pledge what you want but then add $35" crap that's on show here, that I still don't really understand.

Uh, it's basically the same thing? I don't see the issue you're bringing up. One is a direct $35 tier (which exists, we just don't know if you'll be able to choose the Vita version with BackerKit) and the other is the $1 tier with an extra $35 pledge.
 
Uh, it's basically the same thing? I don't see the issue you're bringing up. One is a direct $35 tier (which exists, we just don't know if you'll be able to choose the Vita version with BackerKit) and the other is the $1 tier with an extra $35 pledge.

Not to me. At the moment I'm backing for $1 (to show support) and then throwing $35 at the campaign to maybe get a Vita version or maybe not.

If I pledge $35 at Sharin no Kuni, I get a PC version whether the campaign reaches Vita goal or not. At $36 for Dies Irae, do I get the PC version?

Maybe I'm the only person in the world who's confused about this. But I'm willing to bet I'm not, hence why I'm saying Sharin no Kuni handled it better since I had no confusion at all during that campaign. Never had to deal with add-ons etc. before and the PR team have done nothing to explain it to me.
 

Ephidel

Member
You can change your pledge tier and pledge amount at any time before the kickstarter ends.

If you want to receive a PC version if the Vita goal isn't met you can pledge for the $35 Digital Game tier. It will give you the PC game.

Then, if the stretch goal is met and you'd like the vita version instead then at that point you can either switch to the $1 tier with a $36 pledge (or at least, you could the way I'm reading it at the moment) or if they decide to add in a vita tier at that point then you could switch to that instead.
(Or if they later decide that if/when the goal is met that you can just pledge at the Digital Game tier and pick which you want in backerkit later then you can just stay where you are and you'll already be covered, but only if they actually bluntly state you can do that)

Alternatively if it doesn't get to $200k and you decide you want to back out for that or any other reason then you can just cancel your pledge entirely as long as you do it before the kickstarter ends.

Just, you know, make sure you remember to do that.
 
You can change your pledge tier and pledge amount at any time before the kickstarter ends.

If you want to receive a PC version if the Vita goal isn't met you can pledge for the $35 Digital Game tier. It will give you the PC game.

Then, if the stretch goal is met and you'd like the vita version instead then at that point you can either switch to the $1 tier with a $35/$36 pledge (I'm not sure which would be needed) or if they decide to add in a vita tier at that point then you could switch to that instead.
(Or if they later decide that if/when the goal is met that you can just pledge at the Digital Game tier and pick which you want in backerkit later then you can just stay where you are and you'll already be covered, but only if they actually bluntly state you can do that)

Alternatively if it doesn't get to $200k and you decide you want to back out for that or any other reason then you can just cancel your pledge entirely as long as you do it before the kickstarter ends.

Just, you know, make sure you remember to do that.

Thanks. That makes things clearer, but kinda hammers home my point about being confused since that took a fair bit of explaining :p

Anyway, I'm just gonna stay at $1 and see where the campaign is at in the last 48 hours.
 
They definitely would have hit the Vita goal if they hadn't waited so long or were remotely competent. Though I suppose 70k in the last week is still possible.
 
I wonder how close to the Vita goal it'll get. At least they're doing better in the final week. Wish it had been like this since the start though.
 

axisofweevils

Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
154k now. Shame how badly this has been handled. A dream VN localisation like this should have made the goal easily.
 

Shizuka

Member
154k now. Shame how badly this has been handled. A dream VN localisation like this should have made the goal easily.

In the hands of a company like Degica or Frontwing, with a publisher that actually understands the market unlike Light, it'd be past 250k by now.
 

Saphirax

Member
Three days left and the PR just messed up again.

Some of those were definitely troll pledges - it's down to 145k now.
 
I've only been (properly) following Kickstarter projects for a year or so but it's amazing to see just how bad PR are handling this one.

3 days to go, still no updates. And lol at the massive reduction in funding. Oh well.
 

Buzzi

Member
I'm so tired of this campaign I'll probably just pledge 1$ (was planning to go 50$) and upgrade later through backerkit.
Hopefully this will be remembered as the handbook of what not to do for future VN KS campaigns.
 
@Bastadon The PS Vita physical will not be added as a stretch goal or otherwise during the KS campaign. There could be a possibility of it down the road, but there is no confirmation on that.

Well, that's that then. My pledge will be staying at $1.
 

Shizuka

Member
I said earlier that this was the worst-handled Kickstarter for a visual novel. I remembered Beastmaster today, but we still have three days for Dies Irae to top that one!
 

Nozomi

Banned
As long the initial goal is hit i couldn't care less about any of the stretch goal's.

Sucks for the few Vita backer though but well better than nothing
 
Finally, you agreed that this is worse! Maybe the worst, too?
The only thing this has going for it is that the initial pitch and setup was pretty good and it didn't fuck up at the start line with like some of these other ones. But the PR is so miserable, even when they speak it's clear they know nothing about the game they are trying to sell and just cause more harm than saying nothing.
 

Curler

Unconfirmed Member
Nah I think Beastmaster was worse. No physical copy, period, and they kept adding MORE pins and buttons and other trinkets, that nobody wanted, to the higher tiers.
 

Shizuka

Member
It's like they're giving these updates complete oblivious of the situation surrounding the campaign. How ironic would it be if another 10k was another person just waiting to remove the pledge at the very last moment?
 

AHA-Lambda

Member
I really wonder if it'll make it =/
It's hovered between 148 and 152 from what I seen today, people keep dropping pledges =/

I want to pledge my $35 for the game, but tbh 1) i don't want to reward such a poor KS campaign, and 2) given such a poor campaign is there any reason to worry in the delivery of the full title?
 
I was going to go for the $50 physical tier, but may as well just pledge $1 for Backerkit after the uncertainty and poorly managed campaign.
 

Hexa

Member
It's pretty obvious that people want the game. They just need to try again and not be complete shit at it.
 
I really wonder if it'll make it =/
It's hovered between 148 and 152 from what I seen today, people keep dropping pledges =/

I want to pledge my $35 for the game, but tbh 1) i don't want to reward such a poor KS campaign, and 2) given such a poor campaign is there any reason to worry in the delivery of the full title?

It's the same trolls, not real backers dropping.
 

axisofweevils

Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
Base goal funded! 160k hype!

With 33 hours left, and 12k worth of tier slots unlocking later, anything's possible now.
 
Can someone tell me why exactly this KS failed so hard (compared to its potential)? I'm not interested in Dies Irae but even I know that it's (in)famous in the VN community, so why did it only get funded? Just what went wrong with the campaign?

Edit: 6 hours until no one can retract pledges enough to defund Dies Irae... O_O'
 

axisofweevils

Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
Can someone tell me why exactly this KS failed so hard (compared to its potential)? I'm not interested in Dies Irae but even I know that it's (in)famous in the VN community, so why did it only get funded? Just what went wrong with the campaign?

Edit: 6 hours until no one can retract pledges enough to defund Dies Irae... O_O'

Bad planning basically. Started just before Christmas / New years so 2 extended holidays with no updates....
 
Haha. They could have another $40 from me but they'd need to confirm the Vita version first, and I definitely won't be pledging until it's over $200k, so meh.
 
Can someone tell me why exactly this KS failed so hard (compared to its potential)? I'm not interested in Dies Irae but even I know that it's (in)famous in the VN community, so why did it only get funded? Just what went wrong with the campaign?

Edit: 6 hours until no one can retract pledges enough to defund Dies Irae... O_O'

In addition to a lack of attention and interaction from the people running it, some things were changed for the worst from the Prefundia. The stretch goals got worse. Also, a lot of VN Kickstarters get tons of support from Vita people, and the original super-high cost of the Vita stretch goal as well as the fact that you had to buy the $100 tier and then add on the money for a Vita copy (IIRC) made it much less attractive. The Kickstarter was basically mismanaged on several levels, and you'd think anyone paying attention to successes and failures on the platform wouldn't make those mistakes. >_<
 
Muv Luv Kickstarter was by far the worst in my eyes.

They literally spoiled the game for anyone who hadn't already pirated the game right from the start. The whole reason Muv Luv blew up was from the genre shift that was completely destroyed for anyone new to the game.
 
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