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South Park Creators backing off Trump.. "Satire has become reality"

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marrec

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Nah

Look, people trying to call Trey & Matt's brand of "all sides are dumber than we are" libertarianism "alt-right" are 100% wrong. They're fumbling around with terms they don't really understand, and they're not letting that stop them from swinging em wildly like a 2x4.

But that misguided and mistaken assertion isn't fucking radicalizing anyone.

Oh ya?

You sure about that?

Tell that to my Uncle. His son read this GAF thread and now he looks like this:

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Totally radical :(
 

Mega

Banned
Apart from the fact I never had to do that because I never said it was the majority, you said I said that.

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I guess add it to the pile of made up crap in this thread. No one has said a majority of gaffers or "all of GAF" is outraged at South Park. Just a disturbing number of people who keep repeating the same silly lies about the show and its creators because they're still upset by the PC Principal season.
 

y2dvd

Member
They are scared and I can understand why. Trump is president and has the power to go after them. And he crazy enough to actually do so.

The guys that received countless backlash and death threats for wanting to depict Muhammad and still wanted to go through the with it, scared of Trump? Nah.
 
You seem as agitated as he is. I'm annoyed by some of the posts ITT and spending more time than I should reading replies (as is philosophy and you). Don't see the point in unconvincingly acting like laid back cool guy when you're as committed and rechecking this thread as everyone else.

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Difference is I'm laughing. I'm not acting..why would I need to? Who am I trying to impress? The outrage outrage gives me the giggles..why wouldn't I keep popping in? 😕


I guess add it to the pile of made up crap in this thread. No one has said a majority of gaffers or "all of GAF" is outraged at South Park. Just a disturbing number of people who keep repeating the same silly lies about the show and its creators because they're still upset by the PC Principal season.

Yeah..that's what it is lol. You kids are adorable..
 

Mega

Banned
Difference is I'm laughing. I'm not acting..why would I need to? Who am I trying to impress? The outrage outrage gives me the giggles..why wouldn't I keep popping in? 😕

Yeah..that's what it is lol. You kids are adorable..

You're coming across as trying too hard after all the initial anti-SP positions were squashed and going with this weird angle at that one poster (philosophy). I guess, keep at it? Whatever.

Honestly the debates only were more entertaining than last season South Park

Agreed. My other point of reference is SNL where their debate opening skits were less outrageous than the IRL broadcasts. It's like a weird historical first with real life beating The Onion.
 

Bronx-Man

Banned
when you call south park alt-right, it makes overly sensitive people outraged

in their outrage they make a fool out of themselves and prove me right

#SouthParkQualityHumour
Jabroni marks don't know it's a work when they try to work a work, and end up working themselves into a shoot.

Marks.
 

reckless

Member
Makes sense, they've spent more time with Trump/Garrison then pretty much any other side character in the show's history.
 
So you aren't trying to have an active decent discussion what you are actually doing is trolling and baiting for outraged reactions?

Sounds productive.

I would argue there is nothing productive about the arguments that happen on GAF because nobody will change their mind or budge on anything.
 

Sayad

Member
This have been the subject they made fun of more than anything else in the past 20 years, but I'm sure they're going to do something else now due to cowardice. :D
 
You're coming across as trying too hard after all the initial anti-SP positions were squashed and going with this weird angle at that one poster (philosophy). I guess, keep at it? Whatever.

Guy, whatever it is you think about me is all you. This "try hard" stuff is, again, just you. I'll agree tho, whatever..not sure why I ruffled your feathers. I'll try harder to do better, I guess..

So you aren't trying to have an active decent discussion what you are actually doing is trolling and baiting for outraged reactions?

Sounds productive.

You got me again, champ..😕

I would argue there is nothing productive about the arguments that happen on GAF because nobody will change their mind or budge on anything.

Eh, not necessarily true. Just hard to talk to anyone when they're solidly planted in their position. It can happen, it's just not easy..
 

marrec

Banned
How has he given a platform to Milo by pointing out the truth? Anyway, this is unrelated, feel free to PM me and discuss why and I will be happy to debate with you on this issue and change my perspective if you convince me, I just posted the video because I thought the other poster would be interested as it was related to what he was saying.

I think he just means that Rubin had Milo on his show. But lots of people have had Milo on their show I don't think it immediately invalidates everything they say before and after that event.
 

jax

Banned
Yup.
It's gotten to the point where whether or not criticising Trump or anything else they've satirised recently was a good idea doesn't matter, the decision to stop is just for the good of the show long-term.
I miss the non-continuity and off-the-wall episodes. Don't get me wrong some of the greatest moments have included satirising real life but the very best haven't, in my opinon. Episodes like Butters' Very Own Episode, for example, just couldn't happen in the current climate, I feel. It's kind of sad because I honestly believe Matt & Trey tried to do the recent storylines in a good way, and believe me I wanted them to attempt a 'serialised'/continuous season for a while, but I just think they failed in their aims.
Look, if people liked the latest stuff, that's great. I just didn't find any of the recent stuff funny, like at all. It's not a political leaning thing, I just didn't enjoy it and that's that. For some context, I'm not American and have been watching and enjoying South Park since the 90's. I know SP is an American show with American creators on an American network for an American audience but you can run this stuff into the ground. It's only my opinion but I've seen it echoed quite a few times in various places; the best South Park content in recent years was The Stick of Truth.

It's a fruitless endeavour honestly.

I would go one step further and contend that modern day Simpsons has been BETTER than the most recent season of South Park.

No lies detected
 

DarkKyo

Member
The inside of your ass must smell fantastic.
That is real classy. Being so reactionary and self-righteous is exactly what I'm talking about. Maybe don't barrel into a conversation with insults?

Talking down to people who have a genuine reason to be angry, scared, and reactionary doesn't seem to be a genuine attempt at dialogue. This attitude seems to be common among moderates. They aren't winning anyone over with that shit.

But you don't have any good reasons to be scared or angry at South Park who are already on the right side of social justice most of the time. It's the idea that sometimes you have to think about their messages or they don't jive 100% with your social philosophy 100% of the time that you need to cast them out as an enemy to the movement. When I said online radicalization I meant that the younger generations have grown up in echo chambers(yes, all sides do this), looking online for people who agree with their point of view from the start, so much so that they've been tainted with the idea of judging someone by their absolute philosophical purity or choosing to purge them outright from the conversation. You're obviously on the "good side" in the culture war, but your inability to see past any slight difference in opinion or representation is ultimately self-defeating. I'm guessing the idea is that anyone "moderate" or somewhere-in-the-middle is considered not worth your time because they're not on the same page as you, which means they aren't considered a part of your movement. What you need to understand is that most of those moderates agree with you on the basics, that love triumphs over hate and inclusion is superior to separation, so you are generally putting your energy into the wrong places when you start going off on people who were with you from the start.

Purity tests will be the death of liberal organization because in only accepting peers that think exactly like you, you put up insurmountable walls between allies. I bet you and I are the same in all the places that matter, but you will ignore it because I think just a bit differently.

It's the problem with allies arguing in this thread and it has been a huge problem in threads all over GAF, most noticeably cropping up in the last year or two.
 
it's going to be really hard to take a House of Cards Season 5 seriously now with a Trump's assention to power out of fuckery nullifies all the careful scheming that the Underwoods did

Hey..I'll can take a little less crazy in my TV shows lol. Reality ain't treating folks I know too well. I could use the break..
 

ZealousD

Makes world leading predictions like "The sun will rise tomorrow"
it's going to be really hard to take a House of Cards Season 5 seriously now with a Trump's assention to power out of fuckery nullifies all the careful scheming that the Underwoods did

In House of Cards, a President is forced to resign because foreign money is brought into his political campaign.

In reality, Donald Trump is a puppet of the Russian government.
 

Kinyou

Member
when you call south park alt-right, it makes overly sensitive people outraged

in their outrage they make a fool out of themselves and prove me right

#SouthParkQualityHumour
People get outraged at nonsense opinions? Who would have thought? How damn clever! My god, you're the master troll of the master troll!
 

Real Hero

Member
yeah man they raped trump to death but I really wish they would mock his voice and hand movements like the cool and totally relevant snl
 

Mega

Banned
Guy, whatever it is you think about me is all you. This "try hard" stuff is, again, just you. I'll agree tho, whatever..not sure why I ruffled your feathers. I'll try harder to do better, I guess..

Still don't get why you've removed yourself from the discussion at hand and have decided to do this weird "why u mad tho *laughing smiley*" angle. Yeah, some people are invested and annoyed by this topic and arguing their positions vehemently. And? Move on from it and contribute. You're the only one doing this and it's frankly a shit way of engaging with others.

You sure, tiger? 😏

See? Yeah, I'm triggered, he's triggered, you and Bronx-Man are triggered. You have basic skills of deduction. That's nice. Anything else you wanna add?
 
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They've gone further making fun of Trump then probably anyone else in the world, but somehow are still cowards...

Only a coward wouldn't dedicate every second of every episode to bashing Trump's right? Now those folks at SNL poking fun at him for three minutes a week, they're true heroes.
 

sibarraz

Banned
We only need the "I'm actually doing a social experiment by triggering all of you ;) " to come full circle on the 12 years old troll backpedal
 
That is real classy. Being so reactionary and self-righteous is exactly what I'm talking about. Maybe don't barrel into a conversation with insults?



But you don't have any good reasons to be scared or angry at South Park who are already on the right side of social justice most of the time. It's the idea that sometimes you have to think about their messages or they don't jive 100% with your social philosophy 100% of the time that you need to cast them out as an enemy to the movement. When I said online radicalization I meant that the younger generations have grown up in echo chambers(yes, all sides do this), looking online for people who agree with their point of view from the start, so much so that they've been tainted with the idea of judging someone by their absolute philosophical purity or choosing to purge them outright from the conversation. You're obviously on the "good side" in the culture war, but your inability to see past any slight difference in opinion or representation is ultimately self-defeating. I'm guessing the idea is that anyone "moderate" or somewhere-in-the-middle is considered not worth your time because they're not on the same page as you, which means they aren't considered a part of your movement. What you need to understand is that most of those moderates agree with you on the basics, that love triumphs over hate and inclusion is superior to separation, so you are generally putting your energy into the wrong places when you start going off on people who were with you from the start.

Purity tests will be the death of liberal organization because in only accepting peers that think exactly like you, you put up insurmountable walls between allies. I bet you and I are the same in all the places that matter, but you will ignore it because I think just a bit differently.

It's the problem with allies arguing in this thread and it has been a huge problem in threads all over GAF, most noticeably cropping up in the last year or two.

👏
 

Real Hero

Member
What's funny is most of that answer in the OP was a response to an answer that didn't even mention trump. It was a general reply to 'what makes your kind of topical humour so funny?'
 
Still don't get why you've removed yourself from the discussion at hand and have decided to do this weird "why u mad tho *laughing smiley*" angle. (😕) Yeah, some people are invested and annoyed by this topic and arguing their positions vehemently. And? Move on from it and contribute. You're the only one doing this and it's frankly a shit way of engaging with others.



See? Yeah, I'm triggered, he's triggered, you and Bronx-Man are triggered. You have basic skills of deduction. That's nice. Anything else you wanna add?

Dude..you really might just wanna put me on ignore. You seem real tense and I'd hate for you to have a bad day based on some person on the internet. You'd think I ate your cat for fuck sakes. Good grief lol..
 

Levito

Banned
How has he given a platform to Milo by pointing out the truth? Anyway, this is unrelated, feel free to PM me and discuss why and I will be happy to debate with you on this issue and change my perspective if you convince me, I just posted the video because I thought the other poster would be interested as it was related to what he was saying.

Milo has been on Rubin's show several times, that's giving Milo a platform. Milo is a very directly and openly racist piece of trash, and anyone(like Rubin) that gives him a platform like this is helping spread his dangerous rhetoric. My point is, there are plenty of problems with the left, but linking to a guy that shills for Milo isn't doing your argument any favors.


For the record though, I would not call South Park "alt-right". I would say they cling to their "hey let's all be moderates" guns way too closely and the Man-Bear-Pig example I used earlier is why that philosophy isn't a good one to subscribe to.
 

Mega

Banned
But you don't have any good reasons to be scared or angry at South Park who are already on the right side of social justice most of the time. It's the idea that sometimes you have to think about their messages or they don't jive 100% with your social philosophy 100% of the time that you need to cast them out as an enemy to the movement. When I said online radicalization I meant that the younger generations have grown up in echo chambers(yes, all sides do this), looking online for people who agree with their point of view from the start, so much so that they've been tainted with the idea of judging someone by their absolute philosophical purity or choosing to purge them outright from the conversation. You're obviously on the "good side" in the culture war, but your inability to see past any slight difference in opinion or representation is ultimately self-defeating. I'm guessing the idea is that anyone "moderate" or somewhere-in-the-middle is considered not worth your time because they're not on the same page as you, which means they aren't considered a part of your movement. What you need to understand is that most of those moderates agree with you on the basics, that love triumphs over hate and inclusion is superior to separation, so you are generally putting your energy into the wrong places when you start going off on people who were with you from the start.

Purity tests will be the death of liberal organization because in only accepting peers that think exactly like you, you put up insurmountable walls between allies. I bet you and I are the same in all the places that matter, but you will ignore it because I think just a bit differently.

It's the problem with allies arguing in this thread and it has been a huge problem in threads all over GAF, most noticeably cropping up in the last year or two.

Agreed on all points. Same stances, concerns, part of the same groups, slightly differenced nuance takes/approaches on a few issues? You're the fucking enemy.

Dude..you really might just wanna put me on ignore. You seem real tense and I'd hate for you to have a bad day based on some person on the internet. You'd think I ate your cat for fuck sakes. Good grief lol..

I have never put anyone on ignore. I think you're being unnecessarily irritating in your un-participation/mocking tone. That's all. I'm not important to you, and you're not important to me. No one's day is being ruined. Cut it out with the hyperbole.
 
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