MGS5 is better than MGS2.
Depends on what you're looking for obviously. If you want games to be more like shitty movies. Great. MGS2 is awesome in that regard, just the best. If, on the other hand, you want a hell of an actual fucking videogame where you make your own fun. Excellent. MGS5 is perfect for that.
XV stacks up pretty well with XII and is definitely better than X-2, but X obviously is on another level. This gen the western teams are just straight up better than PS2's era though, then it was Japan running the show in many aspects.Nothing will ever come close to the PS2. Just compare the quality of big franchises on PS2 vs PS4. Half-baked titles like MGSV and FFXV look pathetic against MGS2/3 and FFX/X-2/XII.
The cost of making games has ballooned so dramatically that both the quality and quantity of AAA software has taken a massive hit. We are at a stage where games are taking 5 years to come out and still aren't finished when they launch.
The PS4 OS convenience is the best in console history.
As someone who has gamed on both consoles & PC's for a long time it has always been a pain how feature-less and behind consoles have been. And this ultimately affected the games of the previous generations, most noteworthy the PS2 generation when PC online was mature & tech like programmable shaders a thing (hence an opportunity for Xbox to enter with some of these elements). PS2 brought heaps of great IP's and 2001 was mad but I feel it's the PlayStation that went out on date the fastest (despite continued commercial success). The PS3 on its end had all the aspiring technologies but the most cumbersome and slow OS, a whole generation of maturation efforts.
The PS4 is for me when consoles surpassed PC gaming with Netflix-like effortless access to all the unified service-features I would want. System handles everything in a neat Async fashion On or Off. And ultimately this enhances the whole gaming experience.
I'm definitely in the 'gaming has never been better' camp.
edit: Though I would say dl-gifting is still a noteworthy missing feature.
Well hey, at least it's nice to see some positive hyperbole on GAF for one
To be fair though I am really enjoying this gen and I think that in a few years PS4 will be able to proudly stand alongside the Ps1, 2 and 3 as one of the better systems in Playstation history. But it's not quite there and in terms of relevance it will probably never reach the Ps2 even if the games themselves are better
Yeah, let's be real here. That recency bias.Not even remotely close to being the best
Uh, right.
Maybe I'm reading this wrong but were you imagining that there was some huge shift in reviewing standards between June 2013 and July 2014 when TLOU and TLOU remastered released respectively? Because that's not what happened. It's a comment on the state of reviewing over a much longer timescale.
People are saying that reviewers are more critical this gen than two - three gens ago, in the PS1 or Ps2 eras. And that's true. That doesn't mean that games can't reach the high 90s, but it's harder because there are so many more reviewers that it just becomes functionally impossible to maintain the highest scores. That, together with a more common 10 point scale instead of 100 points means reviews end up lower than they used to.
Ocarina of time has a metacritic of 99 with 22 reviews; while the 3DS remake, which is as close to objectively the same or improved in any way has only 94 from 85 critics. The 3DS remake actually has 24 perfect scores - more reviews than were even recorded for the original - but also some 20 or so 9/10s which previously may well have been, presumably anywhere up to 95/100, dragging the game down.
This is true for almost any game.
I believe so. People overhype the ps2 too much.
No. In terms of library (specially exclusives), PS2 is only rivaled by the SNES (and PC of course). I don't think we'll ever get back to having as many third party exclusives of such quality and diversity as in the SNES/PS2 days.I believe so. People overhype the ps2 too much.
My man.No we don't, the diversity of titles and the peaks of quality have never even come close to being matched and never will.
XV stacks up pretty well with XII and is definitely better than X-2, but X obviously is on another level. This gen the western teams are just straight up better than PS2's era though, then it was Japan running the show in many aspects.
I mean....I don't...but I tell yeah...I've been playing games in the 80's and I've never had as much good stuff to play as I have now. IMO, last year was on the weaker side for my tastes, but overall..the end of 2014 through beginning of 2015 had some fantastic games come out.
This year is shaping up to be equally as fantastic.
It's funny how Sony emerged this gen as the primary company who "got" gamer's tastes. Oldschool gamers have criticized Sony as being a conglomerate with a gaming wing, rather than a pure gaming company like Sega or Nintendo.
But now, Sony is run by the former top Playstation manager, MS failed to make Xbox a trojan horse for their entertainment strategies, and Nintendo just struggles to keep up in basic ways. PS4 learned all the right lessons from the Xbox 360 challenge last generation (strong online functionality, simple development architecture, reasonable MSRP), and now they've mostly unified the world audience around one platform. There's no reason PS4 can't be the GOAT by the end of the gen, though it still has a ways to go.
What? This Zelda example doesn't show anything. It's a remake. No remake should ever get as high as a game that was revolutionary and gave gamers a completely new experience. You can't just release the same game and give it the same score. I don't even think it should ever get a 94. That seems very high and proof that reviewers are not strict.
It's not just the quality, it's the quantity.
We got 3 Final Fantasy games, 2 Kingdom hearts, 3 GTA's, 2 GT'S, 2 Metal Gear's, 3 Devil May Cry's, 2 Silent Hills.
it's surreal to expect that now the PS2 was on a different level, most of these games were released within the first 4 years think about that 3 GTA's in 3 years. I'd be shocked if we see a GTA 6 this gen, I genuinely feel sorry for younger gamers the sheer variety, quantity and quality was unparalleled during the 6th gen, call me a cynic but the industry is so much less exciting now.
Yup. Same here. Maybe its because my gaming tastes have varied a little bit (because the beginning of last gen IMO sucked...everyone wanted to chase the casual market/COD crowed...and damn there just weren't as many varied experiences...so I forced myself to play other genres that were quality but wouldn't have played normally..and I was delightfully surprised).This is how I feel, although I do feel insane playing it. But I just have so much to play, and so much to buy, and it's all so varied. I feel like I am drowning in quality games.
Don't get me wrong, the PS2 was awesome. But the PS3 and even PS1 I feel lack what this console has given me. Outside of MGS and FF7 which were EXCEPTIONAL games, the PS1 has less to offer than the PS4.
It's interesting how many people in here think PS2 was untouchable. I thought the OG Xbox was a pretty damn strong competitor at the time.
Igiven the amount of incredible games we have seen so far
It's interesting how many people in here think PS2 was untouchable. I thought the OG Xbox was a pretty damn strong competitor at the time.
Yeah, I'm of the opinion PS4 hasn't been the best Playststion system yet. I think it will eventually surpass PS2. For me, it's already caught PS3 halfway through it's generation and is neck and neck with PS1. FF7, MGS, Tekken 3 and Twisted Metal are classics though that still hold it a bit higher on the list. Horizon and Nioh may change things however.Yup. Same here. Maybe its because my gaming tastes have varied a little bit (because the beginning of last gen IMO sucked...everyone wanted to chase the casual market/COD crowed...and damn there just weren't as many varied experiences...so I forced myself to play other genres that were quality but wouldn't have played normally..and I was delightfully surprised).
Now, there seems to be something of quality for everybody. Games are not super-duper casual as many were last gen...and we are getting rich experiences for all tastes.
Indies, Rpgs, Open Worlds, FPS, TPS. I mean...if ya can't find something you like now, then maybe gaming is just not a hobby ya enjoy anymore!
It's not just the quality, it's the quantity.
We got 3 Final Fantasy games, 2 Kingdom hearts, 3 GTA's, 2 GT'S, 2 Metal Gear's, 3 Devil May Cry's, 2 Silent Hills.
This is how I feel, although I do feel insane playing it. But I just have so much to play, and so much to buy, and it's all so varied. I feel like I am drowning in quality games.
Don't get me wrong, the PS2 was awesome. But the PS3 and even PS1 I feel lack what this console has given me. Outside of MGS and FF7 which were EXCEPTIONAL games, the PS1 has less to offer than the PS4.
It's interesting how many people in here think PS2 was untouchable. I thought the OG Xbox was a pretty damn strong competitor at the time.
Software libraries between the two aren't close at ALL
I believe so. People overhype the ps2 too much.
disagree mate...I think it's already caught PS3. Remakes or not, I can't go back and play TLoU on PS3 after the superior version of it, and Ratchet and clank is still better than some of crap Ratchet games on PS3. Plus you are forgetting the quality of Indy titles has risen dramatically. We are getting much more Journey level games now from indies like The Witness, Inside, Transistor, Resogun, and Rocket League. GTAV for example is waaaay better on this gens platforms.I'm really enjoying what the current gen has to offer. There's some real gems in there (*couch*Bloodborne) but c'mon it's not even a shadow on the PS1, PS2 or even PS3's lineup.
I still have around 50 physical PS2 games I wouldn't part with at any price. Similarly I have 30 or so must own PS3 games that are going nowhere... So far my physical PS4 library consists of 14 games, most of which are remasters from gen 7 (including TLOU, Uncharted Collection, Heavy Rain Collection and The Bioshock Collection).
I think that pretty much tells the story of Gen 8 so far. The Hardware is undoubtedly impressive, and the improvements to the UI and social aspects are pretty amazing, but when it comes to the real important stuff it falls short.
Okay, but it's not about how you feel and that last part of your post is simply untrue. You asked a question with a definitive, objective answer and that answer is a clear no. You were either too young, didn't have the funds, misremembering or being biased by your (reasonable) attachment to your current system. The PS1 had a huge library of exclusives and very high quality titles.
I toughed it out during those gens with a N64 and Gamecube as a Nintendo fanboy, and even I knew I was missing out on amazing new games practically every month of every year.
Not to nitpick, but the ps2 got FIVE silent hill games on it, not 2 lol.
SH2, SH3, SH4, Origins, and Shattered Memories all got a release.