SinCityAssassin
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Whoops, meant less. The Wii U version has LESS draw distance. In that you can't see much from a distance in the Wii U version where as the Switch is a lot clearer.
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New screenshots for Zelda Breath of the Wild on Switch [SPOILER WARNING]
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Whoops, meant less. The Wii U version has LESS draw distance. In that you can't see much from a distance in the Wii U version where as the Switch is a lot clearer.
OG_Original Gamer
Member
I doubt money is the culprit, increased texture resolution on rock and mountain would have been enough.
Of course, but some context would be nice. Seeing something and starting yelling isn't exactly constructive criticism, right?
I already drew the comparison with GTA V (the best looking open world game on PS360) in another thread, and Zelda on Wii U certainly isn't faring any worse overall. It does some things better and some things worse, but considering the level of physics and interactivity with the scenario and the interactive polygonal grass (whereas in GTA V R* had to cut the physics engine of IV to boost graphics), i'd put it a bit higher.
I can agree with what you said about using hardware to make something pleasing to the eye, but i think that they never failed to do that.
Doesn't seem to count in this case.
Milly Osworth
Member
With some replies you wonder if they are fans of gaming or fans of pixels.
Jawbreaker
Member
False dilemma.
There's a history with Zelda and rock textures. I like to think it's an ongoing joke now and the developers do it on purpose.
A lot of them don't actually play games, they just talk about them.
i know right? the switch is not as strong as the other consoles, i don't think we need to hear it again. This visual spectacle should be marveled at for what they've achieved in such a small device
Equanimity
Member
I understand some of the criticism but I can't help feeling excited for how incredible this game will look and play in portable mode.
The Switch is a portable dream machine.
The Switch is a portable dream machine.
Technically the game looks like a mess. But just shows how long a well designed art style can go. Wish could play this on PS4 Pro in 4K.
Fully intending to play this in 4k (downsampled) through Cemu after paying for a WiiU copy.
(It's really, really not helping that Horizon is everywhere and there's a lot of visual similarities between the two games)
Polygonal_Sprite
Member
It all depends on how big the boost was I guess. The Wii U GPU got a 150MHz boost from 400 to 550 in the weeks before launch but I guess the thermal and power envelope is much smaller with Switch being so tiny inside although the boosts could be limited to docked mode.
Of course, the physics engine looks amazing especially when you consider they were constrained by Wii U hardware. I was more meaning resolution, anti aliasing and anisotropic filtering when I said "technical standards".
Oh definitely the game have a big scope and the art style is great, still think its a shame to see the potential ruined by poor textures, while the excuse will be that its not a powerful machine, it is a damn shame.
This in 60fps and 4K high res texture, wheew.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Portable mode is best mode.
Equanimity
Member
You're going to like these videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiEYTN-nDso
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxzWwtZUcQk
It's washed out with other source material because someone fucked up with the capture card.
metalslimer
Member
Yep, games are going to look amazing in portable mode. We're finally done with 240p!
AquaWateria
Member
Even as techical beautiful as Horizon looks it still doesn't give me that joyous and wonderful feeling Zelda gives me due to its unique artstyle.
Seriously anything with a Ghibli aesthetic is amazing.
Dunno. Much like Xenoblade X, the game is so open it seems to scream to be played on the big screen. The world is huge, I'd say it's a bit underwhelming to play it on a tiny screen. I intend to play most of the game in docked mode.
SinCityAssassin
Member
I mean. To me personally, Horizon feels like a marvel. But Zelda feels like an adventure.
regarding how the game looks, here some piece of info:
This is a Wii U game, ported to switch
what that means is, its base hardware was the standard around 2005-2006, powerwise.
that's 11-12 years old hardware
the fact that we can say "it looks nice" , that's a big achievement already
This is a Wii U game, ported to switch
what that means is, its base hardware was the standard around 2005-2006, powerwise.
that's 11-12 years old hardware
the fact that we can say "it looks nice" , that's a big achievement already
That and the reflections on the water. AA or lack of has never bothered me, so whether a game has it or not is never a factor for for me. Regardless, it looks great and plays great according to those at the events. That's all that really matters.
Im_So_Pringles
Member
The art is beautiful which is all that matters to me. Been playing Nioh at 720p lately on PS4 so getting bumped up to 900p on Zelda will look nice.
It's both, and should be judged from both perspectives, or from whatever perspective is most important to the individual. I care more about it as a console, and it's perfectly valid to be disappointed in what it offers from that perspective, even while acknowledging that it is a solid handheld offering.
papercan55
Member
Fingers crossed CEMU emulator get's this ready quickly, this title deserves clearer image quality.
If Nintendo can't offer better anti-aliasing or at least 1080p whilst docked then it's a huge shame as the art design is stunning.
At least the option is there on pc to play the game how it deserves to be seen...
If Nintendo can't offer better anti-aliasing or at least 1080p whilst docked then it's a huge shame as the art design is stunning.
At least the option is there on pc to play the game how it deserves to be seen...
Kissenkopf
Banned
How often do you wanna say that?
Fingers crossed I will always enjoy games even if they have some technical issues and fingers crossed I never need to tell everybody about the issues I have with a game. Again and again. And again. And again.
It's mind-boggling to think how many of this game's technical shortcomings could be sidestepped if they chose an environment texture style that's as cartoony as its characters (I believe the technical term for that is "go full Wind Waker").
I mean, look at this mess. It's a highly stylized cartoon skull wrapped in what would pass for a realistic texture on the GameCube. Why would anyone do that?!
papercan55
Member
I'm entitled to my opinion, i love nintendo titles more than any other developers.
They always have such a beautiful art style that it breaks my heart to see them presented this way.
I've never said that it will effect my enjoyment , because it won't and it never has done.
But i'm still entitled to speak my opinion, and i wish that the artwork would be given the picture clarity it so clearly deserves.
If you think i sound like a broken record then i apologise.
I think at times there will be instances, like the skull, where simpler colouring or more cartoon like would have been more effective but it think overall it might not be so apparent.
I'm a huge fan of the visuals found in the Wind waker but i'm all for trying something new and after playing this i'm hoping they've found a nice balance between TP,WW and skyward sword which seems to be the case based on screenshots, although i would prefer even more colour.
I thought about this as well. But this looks better overall, there are some bad textures, but plenty of beautiful scenes that just can't be found in wind waker.
Velocity:Design:Comfort
Banned
Thats such an exaggeration, what Gamecube texture looks like that?
Kissenkopf
Banned
I respect that you are still here and talk about what you said and quoted my words. Maybe I am just a too big Zelda fanboy that criticism always hurts me a little bit and I react over.
It's true that Zelda would look better with a great resolution but you sounded like someone who gets cancer from watching at those images. Its always so much hyperbole.
In the end it is important that the game will have fantastic gameplay and then the resolution or texture work doesnt matter anymore. And when you play it on the PC and i will on the Switch we still enjoy the same game.
Okay, I calmed down.^^
Spiral Insanity
Banned
That will look fine in motion.
SpiceMelange
Member
I just check his posts and.... not at all? If anything you're the one being hyperbolic.
Polygonal_Sprite
Member
It's not just the lack of AA though. It's the terrible AF, low quaity textures and sub native resolution.
I do agree that the most important thing is gameplay. I have my Switch and BotW pre ordered it's just a shame Switch wasn't more powerful in docked mode as it would have cleared up a lot of my personal complaints about the IQ.
Kissenkopf
Banned
Everything is okay now. I think he can speak for himself.
Yup
Yep that would need a deeper external analysis or explanation from Nintendo
SpiceMelange
Member
He just said he was looking forward for CEMU doing its work and you associate that with getting cancer from watching those images. Cmon son.
Equanimity
Member
Yep! I was done with the 3DS a while back.
People who have played have done just about everything you can do in the game game play wise. We've seen all the weapon types, different environment puzzles, shrines,GI played a dungeon, world bosses, and the like. I have not heard one negative about the game play.
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For god sake, do people don't know that we're many on gaf who've relegious following each footage and shared here ?
So our claim ain't some random bs based on hyped 1080P bullshot screenshots ? Seriously what do you take Nintendo fans for ? It's all gameplay first!!
papercan55
Member
I certainly don't get cancer from looking at zelda screenshots, if anything the fever induced in my body just from looking kills a few cancer cells....
I just feel so sorry for the artists at nintendo some times, skyward sword had some amazing characters but 70% of people playing that game likely played it on a hdtv, and whilst the game still plays amazing(forgetting the annoying ai sword), all their hard effort kind of went to waste, like an old rare ware title they put so much effort into small details and little touches that are wasted due to outdated hardware and it kills me.
I'm there day one playing through on my switch alongside you, i won't even touch the cemu version till i finish it on switch.
when i say i'm hoping for it to work on cemu on day one, I'm purely speaking as an artist who wants to be able to see in full clarity just how incredible the art design is.
To see it how it deserves to be seen.
I agree with this. While I like the look of the game, they should have gone full on cartoon shading instead of using real fextures. The game would have looked a lot better.
Kissenkopf
Banned
Yes, I used the wrong words. Sorry for that.
CrazyHorse
Junior Member
I watched it but it didn't explain why things are washed out.
KratosEnergyDrink
Member
I don't like to sacrifice fluid framerate and stutter free controls and some sound/graphic effects (all Cemu emulated games have these problems) for a higher resolution.
Cemu emulation is definitely not how games "meant" to be played, because Nintendo would not be so highly praised if all their games had the typical problems that with Cemu emulation occurs.
Kissenkopf
Banned
Yes, I used the wrong words. Sorry for that.
Again, my cancer wording was...dumb...to say the least.
I know what you mean about Skyword Sword. At the time the game launched it was really hard not to think what could have been if the game had HD graphics.
And now, after you explained it, I can understand you. I do think thou that the game still looks good in those pics and the artstyle doesnt suffer as much as it did in TP or SS but you are right that it could be better.
Thanks for pointing that out, forgot to add that. It's washed out with other source material because someone fucked up with the capture card.
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