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If Nintendo treated the next Metroid Game like BotW...
- Thread starter uncleslappy
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nordique
Member
Souls-style gameplay is the farthest thing from the what the .... "soul" of metroid is
They don't see a return because they keep their big teams working on Zelda and Mario.
A few years ago Fire Emblem wouldn't make Nintendo see a return, and look now.
I wish Nintendo would treat their dormant IPs as they treat Zelda, that would see a return. There is a big market for a sci-fi/exploration game but they don't wanna capitalize on it.
It's amusing that my positive statement apparently came off negative to you, perhaps you know that those things were inherently bad regardless of my praise?
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
I'd buy a Switch immediately.
FunkyPajamas
Member
Nintendo doesn't care about Metroid. The series doesn't have a loving father, it's nobody's baby.
George Bush doesn't care about Metroid.
Solid SOAP
Member
Idc. I'd be all in for this. There's yet to be a Souls game that takes place in a sci-fi environment. I'd 100% get this
Nintendo has always struggled with console Zelda development times. This isn't a recent trend or the result of the transition to HD.
SatoAilDarko
Member
It's Sakamoto. Whether you hated Other M (I didn't) or not he still made Super Metroid, Fusion and Zero Mission.
He's continue to make a variety of great titles like Warioware, Rhythm Heaven and Tomodachi Life. He's also high up in the Nintendo heiarchy.
I'll never understand how people can look past all the weird decisions and Aonuma and especially Miyamoto do but seem to have it out for Sakamoto over one game.
EternalDarko
Member
So you got your left joy-con working then OP?
To me it means has the same world structure complex and connected
It's not Sakamoto because the last we heard from him was that he was done with the franchise.
wild wild rice
Member
I wish.
FloweryMarston
Member
i don't think OP means in terms of budget though. Super Mario Odyssey probably odesn't have the same number of staff as BOTW nor the same budget, because the game doesn't demands this.
What breath of the wild did was to look at the core idea of zelda, the first one and apply the great things they learned with past titles and hear the criticisms that people had with the series. As we know, the results are great.
Super mario odyssey seems to follow the same mantra, but 3D marios are very different from 2d ones, so they are looking at super mario 64 and sunshine to create this game.
While the first metroid is a great game, it doesn't hold up as well as zelda 1, and different from zelda, where following titles used alttp as a template, which is a different game than zelda 1, metroid 1 was expanded upon on super metroid. When they were making prime they were very careful to make a great transition, of course some things were lost in translation like the non linearity and movement speed.
If they want to make a 3d metroid that offers the same non linear strucutre of super metroid or reinvent the franchise like prime, i would be all for that.
I wouldn't have believed a few years ago that BOTW and mario odyssey would aim to be games that modernize zelda 1 and mario 64. I have no reason to doubt that nintendo can modernize super or prime in a very special way too.
What breath of the wild did was to look at the core idea of zelda, the first one and apply the great things they learned with past titles and hear the criticisms that people had with the series. As we know, the results are great.
Super mario odyssey seems to follow the same mantra, but 3D marios are very different from 2d ones, so they are looking at super mario 64 and sunshine to create this game.
While the first metroid is a great game, it doesn't hold up as well as zelda 1, and different from zelda, where following titles used alttp as a template, which is a different game than zelda 1, metroid 1 was expanded upon on super metroid. When they were making prime they were very careful to make a great transition, of course some things were lost in translation like the non linearity and movement speed.
If they want to make a 3d metroid that offers the same non linear strucutre of super metroid or reinvent the franchise like prime, i would be all for that.
I wouldn't have believed a few years ago that BOTW and mario odyssey would aim to be games that modernize zelda 1 and mario 64. I have no reason to doubt that nintendo can modernize super or prime in a very special way too.
LordKasual
Banned
And this is the feeling that i've wanted from Nintendo but have been completely denied for 2 whole generations. Now imagine how amazing Breath of the Wild would have been if they had the resources of a PS4/Xbone- level environment to develop on.
I think a 3rd person or Prime-style Metroid with the same kind of direction would be mindblowing.
ShockingAlberto
Member
Imagine if Nintendo spent six years tinkering with the next Metroid and it sold in line with even the best-selling Metroid games
They would be totally justified in ending the series forever
They would be totally justified in ending the series forever
I'd love to see a planet-hopping bounty hunting game starring Samus myself personally. Always been one of my dream games. All of the planets would be 3D Metroid Prime areas but there'll be an open space section to travel in between them. Open space allows you to have space dogfights, maybe similar to the open sections of Star Fox.
It'll never happen due to budget but I'd still love to see an attempt at this.
It'll never happen due to budget but I'd still love to see an attempt at this.
Mike Works
Member
Exactly.
Nintendo releases Metroid because it's probably something like "we have to release a Metroid down day when we have an idea, to keep the fans awake"
While they are "We have to release a Mario and Zelda for the next console so start working on as many ideas as you can for those games "
In a perfect world Nintendo would "...have to release Metroid, F-Zero, 1080, Wave Race for the next console, work the ideas"
uncleslappy
nethack is my favorite dark souls clone
This. I think this is what I was thinking. I just want another one I guess.
I'd be curious how they do an open world (I mean if we're still talking open world) and still keep that claustrophobic atmospheric "aloneness" that comes with the Metroid franchise. Beucase while those load doors in Prime served a technical purpose, they also added to the feeling. Removing those and opening things up might be a bit... non Metroid. Then again, the freedom to do anything and opening up the entire world (since backtracking is definitely a core pillar) would be pretty dope too.
What did Super Metroid sell, or Metroid Prime, compared to other Nintendo games of their eras? That bad?
If you think about it, Soulsborne games take a lot from metroid games in structure.
Making a souls metroid would basically boil down to "make a 2d metroid but in 3d with some form of currency."
The Hermit
Member
Bingo
deriks
4-Time GIF/Meme God
- first person (doesn't need to be in the Prime series)
- a open world map only with a few weapon that you get in the begining and not a single one during the rest of the adventure
- new suits to acess new areas are ok, but they don't have to be required to progress in the story
- the natural plataforming and collecting stuff, but with more speed like Doom
- you have to fly and do stuff with your ship
- a simple multiplayer arcade like thing, like Overwatch
- a open world map only with a few weapon that you get in the begining and not a single one during the rest of the adventure
- new suits to acess new areas are ok, but they don't have to be required to progress in the story
- the natural plataforming and collecting stuff, but with more speed like Doom
- you have to fly and do stuff with your ship
- a simple multiplayer arcade like thing, like Overwatch
Iva Demilcol
Member
Sorry, this is will never happen, Nintendo hates Metroid and its fans.
flintstryker
Banned
You want Samus to be slow as fuck?
FunkyPajamas
Member
Loving father (or mother!). Sakamoto doesn't care for the franchise.
Nocturnowl
Member
I shouldn't laugh but well, sometimes the truth is kinda amusing in its own weird way.
GoldenCrow
Member
Give me great atmosphere of tranquility and isolation with brief periods of tension. A world that feels alive but desolate and alien that is hiding a secret. Remove the doors and replace them with another form of item progression without going open world. Don't start Samus off from square one by making her powerful from the get go and make her stronger. Give me a story that is found not told. Finally a huge scale for bosses and an element of verticality in the fights.
That would be worth the price of the Switch, a decent sized memory and the game.
[edit] Also new mechanics in terms of motion, Mirrors Edge is a good basis to build from but more accessible to the newcomers but depth there for people who like to get into mechanics and more expansive in what a Chozo suit could add to this sort of repertoire.
That would be worth the price of the Switch, a decent sized memory and the game.
[edit] Also new mechanics in terms of motion, Mirrors Edge is a good basis to build from but more accessible to the newcomers but depth there for people who like to get into mechanics and more expansive in what a Chozo suit could add to this sort of repertoire.
or you know maybe
Metroid has never, evvvvvvvvvvver sold in the same league as Nintendo's heaviest hitters, so they look it as a B-list property that they're not willing to throw their full weight behind?
I'm very interested in seeing a well-made 3d third person Metroid. Prime ran its course by the third one, and while 2d is great, we've had plenty of them so far. I wanna see the kind of game I was hoping for on N64, but with all the lessons learned and polish applied by modern Nintendo. BotW seems like a good template for the kind of world design a Metroid game could use.
metalslimer
Member
Well i would take a great end to the series over where we are now
FunkyPajamas
Member
I'd buy a Switch if they so much as hint to that.
*sigh* it's not happening. Perhaps next gen.
capylikesgames
Banned
No, why? None of this. Metroid was always about isolation. Villages in BoTW make sense because the series has always had NPCs. Metroid works best when Samus is on her own; putting a hubworld inhabited by harmless, sentient beings doesn't fit well with the feeling Metroid games try to convey.
Kensuke Tanabe.
He's been trying to get Prime 4 made for years. He's still totally on-board for more in the Prime universe.
Hale-XF11
Member
Yeah, but he produced Federation Force, sooooo....anybody else?
uncleslappy
nethack is my favorite dark souls clone
Ha! Yup! Good eye.