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[Heckler456]

I generally just go with the default face. I didn't in DA:I, because the Inquisitor in the marketing didn't seem that iconic (I don't even remember how that looked, tbh), so I might at least see what I can eek out of the character creator in Andromeda.

Yep.

And stop posting that GIF. Actual in-game speed:

 

[Trickster]

Skimmed through the rest of the video. Guess one of the rules for the character creator was "no attractive people allowed"....

 

[aBarreras]

No. You will be only large headed tween sized.

i didnt know cliffy b was the protagonist for andromeda

edit: oh i was beaten

 

[Rellik]

It isnt because of mocap, its because they are too lazy to do morphs for the body and all the different armor pieces.

No, they're not too lazy.

 

[Griss]

Those presets are terrible and somehow the default FemRyder is the worst one.

The Asian one (1) and black one (8) are the two I'd choose.

 

[jonjonaug]

Ten years since Bioware started doing more detailed character customization by adding face sliders in Mass Effect 1 (previous Bioware games only let you set portraits and use 100% prebuilt character models)...and that's where we still are. Nearly every other game I've played in the last five or so years that allows for custom character creation offers way more options. Bioware really needs to let the player make more detailed choices during character creation, I wanna be taller.

 

[tuxfool]

Those presets are terrible and somehow the default FemRyder is the worst one.

The Asian one (1) and black one (8) are the two I'd choose.

eh?

As derpy as default Femryder looks, the others look even less human.

Ten years since Bioware started doing more detailed character customization by adding face sliders in Mass Effect 1 (previous Bioware games only let you set portraits and use 100% prebuilt character models)...and that's where we still are. Bioware really needs to let the player make more detailed choices during character creation, I wanna be taller.

Honestly I understand things like height being fixed. You want the bodies to conform to strict metrics so that animations all work correctly. Getting more flexibility would yield you even more animation slop.

 

[Plumpbiscuit]

I love those biased crappy image based on outdated content. Those are the actual proportion:

The left and right images are perspective, whilst the middle is orthographic, which make a huge difference in proportional perception.

 

[Heckler456]

I love those biased crappy image based on outdated content. Those are the actual proportion:

Watch this be ignored and that other picture freely propagate.

The left and right images are perspective, whilst the middle is orthographic, which make a huge difference in proportional perception.

What are you basing this on? Unless I'm fundamentally misunderstanding you, they both have the same exact posture, and the left and right picture both have an orthogonal perspective. I think you're being mislead by the floor backdrop thing.

 

[shark sandwich]

Hopefully Monster Factory worthy.

#1 selling point for me is how freakishly ugly I can make my character.

 

[Twookie]

most of the preset faces and hair styles look awful imo

 

[Toa TAK]

I like default FemRyder. =\ *shrug* I also dug the default FemShep in ME3, but what the hell do I know?

Also I'd kill to see the Kinect scan your face to import it into character customization. Sounds outlandish, but that would be need to see one day.

 

[vivekTO]

No. You will be only large headed tween sized.

Can you tell me What is the actual size of the Shephard in the pic you Posted, because if i am not Wrong , i heard that it is out of proportion like 8-9 foot tall human, Like a comic superhero!!

Edit: Well I might be wrong than,

I love those biased crappy image based on outdated content. Those are the actual proportion:

 

[JeffG]

I didn't see different Eye, Nose or mouth types.

For mouths it looks like the sliders could do the trick, maybe other sliders would give a different looks for the eyes.

Hmmmm...will have to experiment

 

[CorrisD]

Default FemRyder still looks odd, didn't they base her on someone who looks not so odd looking and quite beautiful, seems something was definitely lost in translation between life and a game model. I also thought the default they did for FemShep in ME3 looked awful in game too.

The plus to the character creator is that the sliders have actual values, so when someone makes a really good looking female base it can be easily copied and customized. If I follow my ME1-3 characters I go for a "good" playthrough with the default male, and then a "evil" playthrough with a customized female character, FemSheps voice was also so much better .

 

[MisterShine]

No details on how we can share our Ryders? I thought they said that was included like the face codes thing.

I want people in the Origin Access to make all the super good looking people and then I just have to put some letters in =D

 

[Lt-47]

The left and right images are perspective, whilst the middle is orthographic, which make a huge difference in proportional perception.

I know. I just took the first Shepard image I could find.

 

[tuxfool]

Can you tell me What is the actual size of the Shephard in the pic you Posted, because if i am not Wrong , i heard that it is out of proportion like 8-9 foot tall human, Like a comic superhero!!

The average human is approximately 7.5 heads in total height. However the human "ideal", if you wanted to make a superhero would place it on the higher end towards 8 heads in height. You'd move towards 8.5 if you wanted exaggerated superhero features, with elongated torsos for men and elongated legs for women.

This ratio is projected regardless of height.

 

[Izuna]

No. You will be only large headed tween sized.

Is this a joke or is this for real?

Haha I can't stop laughing non-stop

 

[metalslimer]

Man the face quality is just bad.

 

[George Oscar Bluth II]

Am I crazy or are there less options for facial structure compared to the previous games?

 

[Arcteryx]

Looks pretty mediocre for 2017.

 

[vivekTO]

The average human is approximately 7.5 heads in total height. However the human "ideal", if you wanted to make a superhero would place it on the higher end towards 8 heads in height. You'd move towards 8.5 if you wanted exaggerated superhero features.

I know about the proportions (character artist myself),But i was asking regarding the Male shephard,is it more human or superhero proportion ??

I am playing ME3 right now , and i can't really say that by looking at the cutscenes.

 

[fastmower]

No. You will be only large headed tween sized.

That's horrible.

 

[Dinda]

Oh right, we will have EA/Origin Access! That means that by the time i'm going to create my FemRyder there are hopefully already a lot of good looking one out there so that i can use their slider settings as base for mine.

 

[Forsythia]

I didn't see different Eye, Nose or mouth types.

That is pretty shitty. So your stuck witha default face which you can slightly tweak. Wtf BioWare, this is worse that your previous games.

 

[kewlmyc]

And stop posting that GIF. Actual in-game speed:

Regardless, the punch still isn't actually connecting which is pretty bad. At least angle it better so we can't tell.

 

[jonjonaug]

Honestly I understand things like height being fixed. You want the bodies to conform to strict metrics so that animations all work correctly. Getting more flexibility would yield you even more animation slop.

After playing Dragon's Dogma I can't buy any excuse for not having sliders for every single thing. If Capcom can make an action game with different animations and movesets for every class and weapon type and where you can climb all over enemies while also doing a variety of in-engine cutscenes there really isn't any excuse for anyone else not being able to do the same.

Even Dragon Age: Inquisition managed to cover vastly different player character heights (compare Dwarf to Qunari in cutscenes), so I don't see why we shouldn't be able to customize the character height/width/muscle definition/arm length/neck thickness/breasts/butt/whatever else ourselves.

 

[Plumpbiscuit]

What are you basing this on? Unless I'm fundamentally misunderstanding you, they both have the same exact posture, and the left and right picture both have an orthogonal perspective. I think you're being mislead by the floor backdrop thing.

It might be better if I showed a diagram.

Left and right image is the left perspective.
Middle image is the right perspective.

It makes a difference in that meshes look warped or otherwise enlarged or shrunk when under the perspective camera, so they cannot be compared to orthographic. I should say this is how the left and right images have Shepherd's torso looks enlarged whilst his legs and head seemingly cone inwards, and this is evidence of the perspective camera.

 

[Lt-47]

Regardless, the punch still isn't actually connecting which is pretty bad. At least angle it better so we can't tell.

They don't need to because it looks fine on male ryder. Probably a bug.

 

[adj_noun]

Watch this be ignored and that other picture freely propagate.

Indeed.

 

[Psoelberg]

Biggest disappointment is the lack of beards Oh well.

 

[vivekTO]

Personally one thing that i am not very much fond of in the characters is there EYES.
and I think this is making all the characters look rather Dull and I can totally see why other people finding these characters rather "boring " looking, Right??

 

[Plywood]

The quality of the presets seem lacking, but you can probably squeeze something half decent out of it.

 

[disappeared]

There's something about the eyes in this game that really bothers me. They look so dead, it adds this creepy stiffness to every character.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUuH4TEmgLo

Ryder is a shark.

 

[Neptonic]

Polygon are gonna make some good boys with this game

 

[bbd23]

those female heads....ugh.

the one they picked was the only one I kinda liked...guess ill roll with that

 

[Lt-47]

Personally one thing that i am not very much fond of in the characters is there EYES.
and I think this is making all the characters look rather Dull and I can totally see why other people finding these characters rather "boring " looking, Right??

Yeah they have very "dry" looking eye which doesn't look great. I don't know why that is because I don't remember Inquisition having that problem. Everyone would look a lot better if they made them more reflective.

 

[tuxfool]

I know about the proportions (character artist myself),But i was asking regarding the Male shephard,is it more human or superhero proportion ??

I am playing ME3 right now , and i can't really say that by looking at the cutscenes.

Yeah, I can't either. But that is also partially due to how Mass Effect is an over-the-shoulder game, and you're dealing with a variety of non-human characters. There are also few world objects that we'd recognise today to give us any perspective.

After playing Dragon's Dogma I can't buy any excuse for not having sliders for every single thing. If Capcom can make an action game with different animations and movesets for every class and weapon type and where you can climb all over enemies while also doing a variety of in-engine cutscenes there really isn't any excuse for anyone else not being able to do the same.

Even Dragon Age: Inquisition managed to cover vastly different player character heights (compare Dwarf to Qunari in cutscenes), so I don't see why we shouldn't be able to customize the character height/width/muscle definition/arm length/neck thickness/breasts/butt/whatever else ourselves.

It is not that you can't, but it is a lot more work. DD has absolute trash animation when it comes to usables and interactable elements (not there is much of it), say how far a character needs to stand in order to interact with an object believably. Same goes for inquisition, some of the cutscenes look really sloppy because they have to account for all these differences.

As people demand more lifelike and detailed animations, you'll see fewer games offer changes to character height. You'd need an extremely robust procedural animation system in order to make it not extremely time consuming to account for height (and all the body proportions that stem from that).

This is not to say that there won't be any games, but it is a significant source of labour that needs to be accounted for (provided you want it to look good).

 

[disappeared]

those female heads....ugh.

the one they picked was the only one I kinda liked...guess ill roll with that

5, 7 (the one they picked), and I think 8 looked all right. Gonna take a lot of tweaking though.

 

[J_Viper]

Those presets, Jesus Christ lmao

They're Oblivion-tier

 

[nicanica]

But do I have corn rows?

 

[KingParappa]

looks like we can upload and import Ryders.

 

[George Oscar Bluth II]

So there's a greyed out "Custom" option beneath all the presets... I'm hoping that's where we can make our own characters from scratch.

 

[Ushojax]

Do you get to customise both siblings and the dad? Or is this going to be one of those games where black characters have inexplicably white family members?

 

[Forsythia]

looks like we can upload and import Ryders.

Which probably is a blessing. Let others create decent faces. Watch them do a better job than BioWare.

 

[Švejk]

Geez... those presets look like The Sims rejects. Can't say I'm liking the aesthetics of the humans too much.

 

[wesleyshark]

Do you get to customise both siblings and the dad? Or is this going to be one of those games where black characters have inexplicably white family members?

Your dad will change according to how you make the siblings look

 

[MikeDown]

Do you get to customise both siblings and the dad? Or is this going to be one of those games where black characters have inexplicably white family members?

Dragon Age 2 did a good job with siblings but I have no faith in this game, so probably the ladder.

 

[adj_noun]

Do you get to customise both siblings and the dad? Or is this going to be one of those games where black characters have inexplicably white family members?

I'm not entirely sure if you customize them yourself, but the Gamespot 45 minute video showed dad Ryder's race change to correspond with the PC.