Never played Turf Masters back in the day... Its freaking great!
Wow! Totally loving it.
Neo Turf Masters is secretly one of the best arcade games ever made.
ON THE GREEEEEENNNNN!
Never played Turf Masters back in the day... Its freaking great!
Wow! Totally loving it.
The only thing I don't like about Shock Troopers is that it's too good.
Ok, actually all the tests were made by someone who has an Xbox One game, not Switch. I was assuming it was the exact same thing, but maybe not.Well... I took a bunch of screenshots and then loaded them up only to remember the screenshot feature adds a ton of jpeg artifacts. They are not entirely worthless, but it does make sub-pixel noise difficult to be precise about. This is the best I could figure out though I forgot to enable widescreen to make the math easier, and am cropping using a laptop touchpad sooo.. not ideal, work with me here. I am going to redo it all pulling direct samples out of HDMI this weekend.
100x100 = 576x448 = 2x
133x100 = 766x594 = 2.66x
150x100 = 864x672 = 3x
160x100 = 922x717 = 3.2ish
161x100 = This tops it out at 720p
The curious thing is this seems to be true regardless of TV or handheld mode. Which would mean that it always renders 720p and scales up to 1080p (blargh) in TV mode, or possibly the screenshot just uses 720p no matter what. I'll know more when I take better shots.
In short, if you care about pixels even a tiny bit the only settings to play on are 100x100 (2x) and 150x100 (3x). 150 should work pretty well for scanlines depending on how they do it (I didn't dig much into the scaline screenshots, I'm tired and these shots suck anyway), but this may all go out the window when I see what is really happening at 1080p.
Shock Troopers is significantly easier than MS3. Wow.
probably because MS3 is obscene bullshit hard.but fair if you practice
What's more fun for 2p, shock troopers or metal slug? Got a friend coming by tomorrow.
I'd say you can't really go wrong with either but for me Shock Troopers is more fun to just pick up and play.
Well, to be fair, MS3 is insanely hard.Shock Troopers is significantly easier than MS3. Wow.
My current goal is MS3 with 30-35 continues. I've watched a 1cc of the game and felt inadequate, but at least I learned a few tricks.
Neo Turf Masters is secretly one of the best arcade games ever made.
ON THE GREEEEEENNNNN!
Metal slug 3 is hard as fuck and that last level is borderline unfair. I say that as a huge fan.probably because MS3 is obscene bullshit hard.but fair if you practice
I'd say you can't really go wrong with either but for me Shock Troopers is more fun to just pick up and play.
Based on my new exposure to Shock Troopers, I would agree with this statement.
Well, to be fair, MS3 is insanely hard.
Turf Masters is legit great. Surprise hit for me - never played it when I had a Neo Geo back in the day.
What the hell....In shock troopers, every time I try to do split Joy con 2 player the game freezes.
Any one have a remedy?
Never played Turf Masters. Can't believe you guys are close to convincing me to get a golf game.
Bad news bears. There is definitely additional scaling going on in TV mode, as suspected. Pulled directly from HDMI, not using screenshot feature.
Native Res Scaled Up
ACA Neo Geo (Display Size: 100 @ 1080p)
ACA Neo Geo (Display Size: 150 @ 1080p)
Metal slug 3 is hard as fuck and that last level is borderline unfair. I say that as a huge fan.
Awful -_-ACA Neo Geo (Display Size: 100 @ 1080p)
ACA Neo Geo (Display Size: 150 @ 1080p)
Awful -_-
Why do we always get shit like this for emulated games ? M2 is definitely the only good developer for this stuff.
No scaling, no filter, simply allow x3 or x4. How difficult can this be ?
Not saying that we don't need a scanlines option. I have been talking about how we could have better scanlines the entire thread in factI would be very disappointed not having a scan line option.
Not saying that we don't need a scanlines option. I have been talking about how we could have better scanlines the entire thread in fact
Bad news bears. There is definitely additional scaling going on in TV mode, as suspected. Pulled directly from HDMI, not using screenshot feature.
Native Res Scaled Up
ACA Neo Geo (Display Size: 100 @ 1080p)
ACA Neo Geo (Display Size: 150 @ 1080p)
Your pictures look fine actually. Could you try making some in 133 ratio with scanlines activated (no filter), so we can see if there is a pattern appearing ? Would be great.The nearest to good scaling there is the 133 option, since 100 is actually a x3 native res, is like in factors of 33.33~ % is how scaling works for this emulator when using 1080p
Which capture device did u use for the picture ? here I have my results from a Capture Card AverMedia Extreme U3 which sends a raw signal to my PC and a photo of how it really sees in my monitor, in which I get a solid scaling for the game with 133 @ 1080p
Your pictures look fine actually. Could you try making some in 133 ratio with scanlines activated (no filter), so we can see if there is a pattern appearing ? Would be great.
*looks at images*Bad news bears. There is definitely additional scaling going on in TV mode, as suspected. Pulled directly from HDMI, not using screenshot feature.
Native Res Scaled Up
ACA Neo Geo (Display Size: 100 @ 1080p)
ACA Neo Geo (Display Size: 150 @ 1080p)
*looks at images*
Hmm...
*looks at images again*
... What the hell are you guys on about?
Your pictures look fine actually. Could you try making some in 133 ratio with scanlines activated (no filter), so we can see if there is a pattern appearing ? Would be great.
Scanlines without filtering sadly isn't possible on these ACA games. At 133 scanlines look fine on my tv set, the only annoyance being some stripes of the screen being darker than others during white or red screen flashes (end of a match in kof98 for instance).
do you refer to B filter ? A filter does not add that dark stripe, is kind of emulating the effect of recording a CRT which I find funny but kind of useless anyways
Some of those squares are rectangles.
All squares are rectangles.
Did you set up the joy cons from the controller options menu before starting the game? Worked fine for me.
I never even heard of Shock Troopers before this but god damn is it a fun game. It's simple and dumb, but just has this great silly badass attitude that totally works for me.
Didn't hook my friend, sadly, but I'm looking forward to more.
Edit: Are the colors correct in Shock Troopers now? Still looks slightly dull.
Could you add a 132 @ 1080p for comparison? That's the closer to x4 round upscale (if the emulator indeed displays at 1080p).
The nearest to good scaling there is the 133 option, since 100 is actually a x3 native res, is like in factors of 33.33~ % is how scaling works for this emulator when using 1080p
Which capture device did u use for the picture ? here I have my results from a Capture Card AverMedia Extreme U3 which sends a raw signal to my PC and a photo of how it really sees in my monitor, in which I get a solid scaling for the game with 133 @ 1080p
*looks at images*
Hmm...
*looks at images again*
... What the hell are you guys on about?