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Venezuela becomes more of a dictatorship, pro-Maduro Court assumes legislative duties

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ItWasMeantToBe19

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CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) — Venezuela's Supreme Court has ruled that it can take over responsibilities assigned to Congress. Opponents of President Nicolas Maduro are saying it's part of an attempt to install a dictatorship in the South American nation.

In Wednesday night's decision, the magistrates say that as long as the opposition-controlled Congress remains in contempt of past court rulings, they can exercise congressional duties themselves.

The court has consistently sided with Maduro's government against Congress in ruling after ruling.'

Earlier this week, the high court also moved to place limits on lawmakers' immunity from prosecution.
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Oh yeah, we're heading to civil war in Venezuela once Maduro cancels elections.

Maduro has ruled over a devastating depression and obscene inflation and he decides now is the right time to seize more power even though everyone hates him.

The situation in Venezuela has been horrible for the last few years, but it's going to get much worse very soon.

https://www.apnews.com/4f22079b4076...-court-says-it-can-take-over-Congress'-powers
 
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ItWasMeantToBe19

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KDR_11k said:
Socialist dictators normally run fake elections rather than canceling them though Maduro is so incompetent he'd probably fail to falsify the result.
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I saw some violent communists on Twitter who were arguing that Maduro should now begin murdering all of his conservative political opponents.

It's like... guys, Maduro could fuck up a ham sandwich. Even if you support violent dictatorship, Maduro would fuck up all of your goals and ideas!
 
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sechsterangriff

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Are there any voices in the military showing discontent at all? I know Chavez was from the military so they probably have been very complacent with the political situation before. But have their position waved in any way since Maduro took power?
 
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RionaaM

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The situation in Venezuela is terrible. I seriously believe the only way Maduro will leave the presidency is in a body bag. He's a fucking dictator. And an awful one at that (not that there are good ones, mind you, but he's way more incompetent than your average tyrant).

sechsterangriff said:
Are there any voices in the military showing discontent at all? I know Chavez was from the military so they probably have been very complacent with the political situation before. But have their position waved in any way since Maduro took power?
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As far as I know, the military is in Maduro's pocket. They aren't going to do anything.
 
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Coriolanus

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ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
I saw some violent communists on Twitter who were arguing that Maduro should now begin murdering all of his conservative political opponents.

It's like... guys, Maduro could fuck up a ham sandwich. Even if you support violent dictatorship, Maduro would fuck up all of your goals and ideas!
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yarp. Even if a dude is bright red, there really should be no denying that Maduro is such a grotesque fuckup that there's no point whatsoever to supporting him. Dude is poisoned tree to the maxx.
 
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Oveja Negra

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I wish Venezuela's people the best. I hope you can do the right thing next time cause let's not forget... you put there first Chávez and thanks to him, now Maduro.

It's truly pathetic here in Chile, to see the Communist and a good portion of the Socialist party defending Maduro about literally, everything. Always, the blame is on the dirty capitalist pigs.

Stay strong, Machado.
 
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Roland_Gunner

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Oveja Negra said:
I wish Venezuela's people the best. I hope you can do the right thing next time cause let's not forget... you put there first Chávez and thanks to him, now Maduro.
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Chavez was fairly elected but the Venezuelan government has gone through some extreme lengths to keep Maduro in power. He's as legitimate as Putin in Russia.
 
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Mahonay

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God I feel horrible for the citizens of Venezuela. More bad news for everyone there who are already being treated like animals.
 
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SoldierOfLight

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That sucks.

And he was a bus driver? I'm not saying a bus driver could/should never become a leader of a Nation but at the same time you look at most of them and wonder if they're fit for the job.
 
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MrChocolate

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This is what happens when you take socialism to the extreme. Maduro should have foreseen that OPEC would tank the oil price in order to send Venezuela to a royal shithole.
 
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Ahasverus

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Venezuela is not going to collapse, IT IS collapsing. I hope something goods comes out at the end of this circus.

However, from what I've been told, they'd almost need a complete productive reeducation program after the dictatorship is over as most people are definitely not accustomed to the normal productive rules (schedules, duties, free market, non-asistencialism etc).
 
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Fandangox

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I wonder what can even be done. Maduro and everyone responsible could be out of Power tomorrow and replaced by well meaning and competent people, but I don't see Venezuela getting any better for a decade if that impossible hypothetical scenario were to happen. It would take too much time just to get things stabilized. Things are pretty fucked there.
 
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Condom

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Isn't this according to Venezuela's constitution to allow something like this? Can you explain why it is not?

Or is it like Turkey (technically according to the rule of law but essentially creating a dictatorship)?
 
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ramuh

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Damn. I thought South America was done with dictatorships. They are not even pretending anymore.
 
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JS3DX

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Condom said:
Isn't this according to Venezuela's constitution to allow something like this? Can you explain why it is not?

Or is it like Turkey (technically according to the rule of law but essentially creating a dictatorship)?
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This is NOT according to the constitution: There always has to be a separation of powers (Legislature, Executive, and Judiciary) and you can't have one overriding any other.

The Supreme Court (TSJ) it's shielding itself (and Maduro) behind some twitsted "interpretation of the law" in wich grants itself the power to "take" the Legislature's atributions, while also giving free reign to Executive. This is not legal in any way.
 
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Ōkami

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I was watching on Caracol today some interviews with the president of congress and some congress people, the military stopping them from even entering the chamber, and are being hostile with them.

One of the congressmen was with a ripper shirt and said it was a soldier that did it.
 
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Eila

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ramuh said:
Damn. I thought South America was done with dictatorships. They are not even pretending anymore.
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Hmm pretty sure Paraguay is trying to change the constitution to allow for re-election and there's a lot of tension at the moment. Evo Morales of Bolivia also tried it recently but I don't think it passed.
 
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Lautaro

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A guy like Maduro would be already hanged by his feet like Mussolini if only Chavez didn't had the hindsight of indoctrinating the military too. Frankly I don't see what options are left for venezuelans: try to storm the palace and hope the military doesn't shoot them?
 
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JCG

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This is depressing. Maduro is still very bad news and I wish all the best luck to the people of Venezuela, but I am worried that certain individuals and political parties elsewhere may be using (or rather, almost certainly will use) this ongoing tragedy to justify all sorts of shit in other countries for the sake of "preventing another Venezuela" or any other similar excuse.
 
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FerDS

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Lautaro said:
A guy like Maduro would be already hanged by his feet like Mussolini if only Chavez didn't had the hindsight of indoctrinating the military too. Frankly I don't see what options are left for venezuelans: try to storm the palace and hope the military doesn't shoot them?
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Oh, it's not just the military, Chavez spent many years arming groups of his followers basically preparing them for this sot of thing (and others)
 
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FerDS

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Machado said:
Still here... Waiting for Canada...


Maduro has fucked everything up man. Though wee need to guy the guy credit... He's succeeded a lot despite being mentally challenged and I do mean mentally challenged... Not just a derogatory term...

BTW I'm staying in Caracas tonight. I'm relatively close to official residence of the dictator and it's quiet as a mouse. Tomorrow tho...
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What's happening tomorrow?
 
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HardRojo

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FerDS said:
Peru and Chile have removed their embassadors from the country
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Yep, our President Kuczynski released a statement regarding the current state of affairs in Venezuela and the removal of the ambassador. Needless to say, Maduro's staff didn't like it.
 
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thestagbeetle

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JCG said:
This is depressing. Maduro is still very bad news and I wish all the best luck to the people of Venezuela, but I am worried that certain individuals and political parties elsewhere may be using (or rather, almost certainly will use) this ongoing tragedy to justify all sorts of shit in other countries for the sake of "preventing another Venezuela" or any other similar excuse.
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Like what? Blame socialism for the downfall of a once rich nation?
 
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Ether_Snake

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How likely is i that they would invade another country?
 
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Kerensky

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Ether_Snake said:
How likely is i that they would invade another country?
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Brazil or it's other bigger mainland neighbors? unlikely

The old dutch caribbean islands of Aruba, Bonaire and Curacao are attractive targets, and it's extremely unlikely the netherlands will be capable of defending them.

By extension Suriname would also be an undefended target.
 
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AcademicSaucer

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Kerensky said:
Brazil or it's other bigger mainland neighbors? unlikely

The old dutch caribbean islands of Aruba, Bonaire and Curacao are attractive targets, and it's extremely unlikely the netherlands will be capable of defending them.

By extension Suriname would also be an undefended target.
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Venezuela has an old territorial conflict with Guyana
 
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Kerensky

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AcademicSaucer said:
Venezuela has an old territorial conflict with Guyana
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It would be interesting to see if they really would be prepared to pull an Argentina over it, if it's french guyana they they would automatically declare war no the EU considering it's status as a fully integrated province of france.
 
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SilentRacoon

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Is a Civil War feasible in the current state? Also is the military loyal dogs to Maduro or is there any notable dissidence among them?

Sucks to see the people suffer by the idiocy of madman like maduro, stay strong down there.
 
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Jacob

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Kerensky said:
Brazil or it's other bigger mainland neighbors? unlikely

The old dutch caribbean islands of Aruba, Bonaire and Curacao are attractive targets, and it's extremely unlikely the netherlands will be capable of defending them.

By extension Suriname would also be an undefended target.
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I'm not particularly familiar with Venezuelan politics or Maduro so I have to ask, is he really stupid/crazy enough to attack a NATO country?
 
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