I mean how do you save such a clusterfuck?
Well for starters it's not a clusterfuck. It's a solid 7.5-8/10 game. Without any bugs it'd be inarguably there. With the bugs it's still a pretty good game.
I mean how do you save such a clusterfuck?
Well for starters it's not a clusterfuck. It's a solid 7.5-8/10 game. Without any bugs it'd be inarguably there. With the bugs it's still a pretty good game.
Since you seemed to have skipped this part:Inarguably there? You're serious...? Lol
Inarguably there? You're serious...? Lol
Inarguably there? You're serious...? Lol
Bioware seems to run on pdt time so it'll be a few hours of anything.so any eta on this announcement?
Since you seemed to have skipped this part:
Without any bugs
Yes. Inarguably. Right now it's in the 70s on metacritic. With bug fixes it'd be inarguably a 7.5-8 game. With QoL improvements like fast traveling it'd be a solid 8, I think.
Personally I think right now it's an 8-8.5/10 after 60 hours in. It definitely starts out as a 7/10 because most of the jank is front loaded. And I've personally not seen anything more heinous than any other big RPG as far as bugs go.
So you think EA should have just forced Edmonton to work on ME forever even if it means they lose some of their key employees who burn out on the franchise?
This makes no sense. They should make a full game but not *this* full game? They had already produced two single player DLCs and a full, incredibly well received, MP mode. Plus there were quite a few series veterans who made the transition to Montreal so its not like the team didn't have veteran talent.
Nevermind the idea that the Montreal team was entirely staffed by rookies instead of the fact that a good chunk of the team were likely industry veterans.
Without any bugs but with it's current gameplay, storylines, quest structure you think it would inarguably be 7.5-8, yeah I got that the first time that's why I'm dumbfounded. The game has a ton of issues beyond bugs, I think you may be missing the complaints if you think people's only problems are the bugs lol
Read the content of the reviews instead of whichever glitch compilation on YouTube. They can definitely address a lot of reviewer complaints, even just outside of the animation.Inarguably there? You're serious...? Lol
It's always a balance. But at the end of the day, it's not slave labor. Devs (individuals, not the whole team/CEO etc.) can tell their publisher to shove it and just go make their new IP for someone else. I'm sure EA would have preferred the main team make a great new ME as established IP sell better and are safer bets than new IP.
And yes, of course Montreal needed to make a full game. But it's a recipe for disaster to give such an inexperienced team such a HUGE game to make for their first stab at a full game.
Even the main team struggled with ME1. It was a buggy, janky mess that gets a pass as it had a great story and was very well written. The Montreal team clearly didn't have the writing talent to pull that off, nor the programming talent since this game is even buggier, worse animated etc. than ME1.
That's just not going to fly in 2017 when the quality bar for big, narrative driven open world games has been raised so high by games like Witcher 3, Horizon etc. Putting out a game inferior to the first 3 entries in the series, which themselves have already long been surpassed in the genre, is a recipe for disaster and one that should have been anticipated by putting the Montreal team on the game without sufficient assistance from the main ME/DA team.
Well for starters it's not a clusterfuck. It's a solid 7.5-8/10 game. Without any bugs it'd be inarguably there. With the bugs it's still a pretty good game.
I completely agree. The internet echo chamber has turned some awkwardness and jank into MAJOR ISSUES. Last time I saw that happen was Mass Effect 3.
When I started playing the game, after seeing all the hysteria, I expected a complete unplayable mess. What I found was a solid, entertaining Mass Effect game.
Read the content of the reviews instead of whichever glitch compilation on YouTube. They can definitely address a lot of reviewer complaints, even just outside of the animation.
It is already sitting on a very low 70s MC, with polish it would probably be higher.
Without any bugs but with it's current gameplay, storylines, quest structure you think it would inarguably be 7.5-8, yeah I got that the first time that's why I'm dumbfounded. The game has a ton of issues beyond bugs, I think you may be missing the complaints if you think people's only problems are the bugs lol
I completely agree. The internet echo chamber has turned some awkwardness and jank into MAJOR ISSUES. Last time I saw that happen was Mass Effect 3.
When I started playing the game, after seeing all the hysteria, I expected a complete unplayable mess. What I found was a solid, entertaining Mass Effect game.
I mean how do you save such a clusterfuck?
I completely agree. The internet echo chamber has turned some awkwardness and jank into MAJOR ISSUES. Last time I saw that happen was Mass Effect 3.
When I started playing the game, after seeing all the hysteria, I expected a complete unplayable mess. What I found was a solid, entertaining Mass Effect game.
"It didn't happen to ME, so it can't be a broken mess!"Game isn't broken. I'm 46 hours in and have had 1 crash.
The hyperbole needs to stop. It's not a broken game. It's not garbage. It's just a disappointment as it's a 7/10ish game that's the 4th installment in a series that was beloved and well reviewed.
But I think, having played it, you could see how with the bugs fixed it would probably score higher? that was a big part of all the reviews.I've played the game myself, even without the numerous bugs it still is a bad game, imo obviously. They would have to completely remake the game for it to be good.
Head to sleep, it ain't coming at 9. I'd say around 12-1.Gonna give it till 9am Pacific. Then I'm off to sleep.
Let me parse this out for you.
The game is already basically a 7.5 by critical consensus. Yes I think that fixing all the bugs would make it inarguably .1 or .2 points higher than it already is. Why is this so hard to understand?
I'm not missing other complaints. That's why I'm still saying it's a 7.5-8/10. That doesn't make it a perfect game. Hell, we have threads around here all the time saying 10/10 games aren't perfect.
Well yeah, less bugs is inherently better. But it wouldn't fix the underlying issues so I don't think the review impact would be enough to push it from a middling 7 game (even that's too high imo) to a 8But I think, having played it, you could see how with the bugs fixed it would probably score higher? that was a big part of all the reviews.
Not talking like going from good -> great, just almost good -> just good.
They should have let the series die, or pawned it off to another developer if Bioware wasn't interested in giving it the attention needed to make a game up to the IPs standards.
But I think, having played it, you could see how with the bugs fixed it would probably score higher? that was a big part of all the reviews.
Not talking like going from good -> great, just almost good -> just good.
If they do a complete overhaul, just relaunch it with a new title --- Andromeda Reborn.
The game will gets new reviews for sure.
Mine is a literal unplayable mess. What now?
Andromeda: Paragon edition
Head to sleep, it ain't coming at 9. I'd say around 12-1.
If this were a standalone game, maybe, but it's not. It's supposed to be the start of a new trilogy and who knows how much paid DLC. They should be all hands on deck to get this thing fixed.
In the new patch (1.05) for Mass Effect: Andromeda, our focus was on bug fixes and improvements to the player experience.
Weve introduced a number of balance changes to single player and multiplayer, and resolved some issues with saves not working properly. Weve also improved lip-sync and facial acting during some conversations, and have implemented a much-requested change that allows players to skip the autopilot sequences in the galaxy map.
Well continue to listen to your feedback, and we thank you for working with us to create an even better Mass Effect: Andromeda experience.
Patch notes are also available in French, Italian, German, Polish, Spanish, Russian, and Brazilian Portuguese.
Patch 1.05 Notes
Improved tutorial placement
Single player balance changes: Ammo crates, armor, weapons, nomad, profiles, attacks, and progression
Multiplayer balance changes: Weapons, cover, and enemies (check back for detailed notes on balance changes)
Added option to skip autopilot sequences in the galaxy map
Improved logic, timing, and continuity for relationships and story arcs
Improved lip-sync and facial acting during conversations, including localized VO
Fixed various collision issues
Fixed bugs where music or VO wouldnt play or wasnt correct
Fixed issue where global squad mate banter sometimes wasnt firing on UNCs
Fixed issue where player was unable to access the Remnant Console Interface after failing decryption multiple times
Fixed issue where fast travel is sometimes disabled after recruiting Drack until the player reloads a save
Fixed issue where Ryder can become stuck in the start of Biotic Charge Pose
Fixes issues related to some saves
Fixed issue where objective sometimes becomes un-interactable for players in multiplayer
Streaming and stability improvements
No, I was implying the opposite.
They should have let the series die, or pawned it off to another developer if Bioware wasn't interested in giving it the attention needed to make a game up to the IPs standards.
Improved lip-sync and facial acting during conversations, including localized VO
I just don't understand how they can fix all the horribly animated faces and dead eyes with a patch, has that happened before? Like a complete overhaul?
That's their statement?
Hi everyone,
Its been two weeks since the launch of Mass Effect: Andromeda and were thankful to the millions of you who have already joined us on this journey. And though the game is now in your hands, its really just the beginning.
Since launch, our team has been poring over your comments and feedback, looking to discover what you like about the game, as well as areas we can evolve or improve.
This Thursday, well release a new patch that addresses technical fixes (crashes, improved performance), but also adds a number of improvements weve heard you ask for, such as:
- Allowing you to skip ahead when travelling between planets in the galaxy map
- Increasing the inventory limits
- Improving the appearance of eyes for humans and asari characters
- Decreasing the cost of remnant decryption keys and making them more accessible at merchants
- Improving localized voice over lip sync
- Fixing Ryders movements when running in a zig zag pattern
- Improving matchmaking and latency in multiplayer
There are many more adjustments being made, all of which you can find in our patch notes.
Over the next two months well be rolling out additional patches which will go even deeper and look to improve several areas of the game:
- More options and variety in the character creator
- Improvements to hair and general appearance for characters
- Ongoing improvements to cinematic scenes and animations
- Improvements to male romance options for Scott Ryder
- Adjustments to conversations with Hainly Abrams
These upcoming patches will also address performance and stability issues. And were looking at adding more cosmetic items to single player for free.
For multiplayer, over the same timeframe, were going to continue to build on the APEX missions that have been running since launch. Well be adding new maps, characters, and weapons. On Thursday, we kick off the first of three new chapters centered around The Remnant Investigation.
This is just a taste of whats in store as we continue to support Mass Effect: Andromeda. And as always, you all play an important role in that. We want to hear from you about your experiences, both what you love about the game and what youd like to see changed. Were listening, and were committed to partnering with you as we continue to explore the Andromeda galaxy together.
Heres to a great journey,
Aaryn
https://www.masseffect.com/news/the-journey-ahead?sf53509845=1
So basically, don't buy the game until all these patches they're planning have rolled out? lmao