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Epic: There are 20+ Japanese Unreal Engine 4 games for Switch in development

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zidanelucis

Banned
EDarkness said:
Again, it doesn't have to be severely downgraded. Just look at the most recent ports of games on the three systems. The PRO obviously is gonna have more bells and whistles, but the NS version can and would look great still. You're really understating what the system can do. But it doesn't matter, if Square Enix wants to port the game...they will. I think they will, honestly.
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Hey you're free to believe what you want man. No animosity here. But I'm just saying, I don't think it's happening unless they downgrade it. We'll see I guess.
 
SinCityAssassin

SinCityAssassin

Member
It's funny how a majority of people are assuming ports and not new Unreal Engine 4 games.

zidanelucis said:
Hey you're free to believe what you want man. No animosity here. But I'm just saying, I don't think it's happening unless they downgrade it. We'll see I guess.
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No animosity while going on an incorrect notion that how UE4 is supported on the Switch is the same as mobile UE4 for iOS.
 
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LordKano

Member
cw_sasuke said:
Always said KH3 was going to hit Switch - many posters got really offended by even suggesting the possibility lol.
Open World titles ala DQ XI/Xenoblade 2 are possible but a downgraded KH3 is impossible ? Doesnt really add up in my book - but we will see.
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I'm more and more confident that it's coming. The recent Square Enix comment about porting everything they can to Switch, including future and already existing titles pointed toward this direction.
 
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Jaded Alyx

Member
zidanelucis said:
Back on topic,

I'd like to see Persona 5 on this. That's not pushing any graphical capabilities and I understand Sony has exclusivity on the mainline Persona's, but damn do I wish I could play Persona 5 on the game. I love it so much but taking it on the go and playing it anywhere I want, that would be amazing.

Another one I'd like on the go is Dark Souls. Dark Souls would be a party taking it everywhere. Dying everywhere.

That's about all I can think of right now. Everything else I'm fine with playing on PS4 since they look and run better. But I think these two can run on the system and still look good.
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Lol how is that on topic?
 
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Nirolak

Mrgrgr
SinCityAssassin said:
It's funny how a majority of people are assuming ports and not new Unreal Engine 4 games.
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I'm not sure there are actually 20 total publicly announced and/or released Japanese Unreal Engine 4 games, especially once we remove tech-demo or VR things, so nigh assuredly there are new ones as well, yes.
 
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zidanelucis

Banned
lwilliams3 said:
Did I see a post just like this a few days ago? That one was shot down fast too.
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You can shoot it down as much as you want with whatever you want. Fact of the matter is the system isn't powerful enough to run these games. And one that I constantly see being portbegged is a timed and most likely permanent exclusive so I'm not sure why that's even brought up.

KH3 is possible. But I don't think it's happening. FFXV I just don't see happening due to Luminous being a much more powerful and versatile engine than UE4.
 
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EDarkness

Member
Nirolak said:
I'm not sure there are actually 20 total publicly announced and/or released Japanese Unreal Engine 4 games, especially once we remove tech-demo or VR things, so nigh assuredly there are new ones as well, yes.
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I think that should be a given. 20 titles is fairly large and we only know a handful of games that even have the possibility of coming to the NS. The next couple of months is gonna be interesting.

zidanelucis said:
You can shoot it down as much as you want with whatever you want. Fact of the matter is the system isn't powerful enough to run these games. And one that I constantly see being portbegged is a timed and most likely permanent exclusive so I'm not sure why that's even brought up.

KH3 is possible. But I don't think it's happening. FFXV I just don't see happening due to Luminous being a much more powerful and versatile engine than UE4.
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*sigh* Not even true, man. You're right, it's not as powerful as the PS4 or the Xbox One, but it's more than capable of running any of these games as recent ports have shown us. Let's leave this stuff at the door and talk about the important things....
 
killatopak

killatopak

Gold Member
Salty Rice said:
Gotta be Ni3r.
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Chances are pretty low of it using UE4. Platinum made a new engine specically for the game because of all the changing perspective. Unless they do away with that, no UE4 NieR.

Of course that is only of NieR 3 is still developed by PG.
 
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Waji

Member
18-Volt said:
My guesses:
Senran Kagura
Dynasty Warriors 9
Monster Hunter 5
Story of Seasons
Etrian Odyssey 6
Etrian Mystery Dungeon 3
Bravely 3
Dragon Quest Monsters Joker 4
Ace Attorney 7
Inazuma Eleven Ares

I know none of these games would not require an engine as advanced as UE4, but I can't think of any other Japanese games that are possibly in dev right now.
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That's because you mostly only consider the usual Third party from the 3ds.
I can't wait to see the reaction of some people when they actually see what's coming.
It's going to be so fun.
 
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Cuburt

Member
It's exciting how UE4 has been such a big help to Japanese development (and indie development) in the same way it was for UE3 for Western AAA developers last gen, especially since the engine has improved so much in ease of use, features, and scale-ability. Epic has really done a great job filling that need and the range of graphical styles has gone far beyond how lots of UE3 games started to look similar.

Also Nintendo working so closely with Epic is just great to see and I never thought I'd see the day. The Switch stands to benefit so much from UE4 support, it's​ basically like the opposite of the Wii's situation by not being able to support UE3 or even the Wii U not getting any official middleware engine support besides Unity.

This news has me excited.
 
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Philippo

Member
Monster Hunter 5 on UE4 would be one of the biggest graphical jump in a series ever.
Hope many of those are JRPGs.

Also, Epic needs one fucking huge round of applause for their work with UE4 in Japan.
 
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Nairume

Banned
hatchx said:
Really hoping Tekken and MvC Infinite make it over to Switch. Something about fighting games on portables just does it for me.
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And the switch being able to separate out the joycons for multiplayer makes it to where portable fighting games become even more appealing.
 
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LordKano

Member
zidanelucis said:
You can shoot it down as much as you want with whatever you want. Fact of the matter is the system isn't powerful enough to run these games. And one that I constantly see being portbegged is a timed and most likely permanent exclusive so I'm not sure why that's even brought up.

KH3 is possible. But I don't think it's happening. FFXV I just don't see happening due to Luminous being a much more powerful and versatile engine than UE4.
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This isn't a fact as you (neither us) don't know how powerful the system is exactly and how demanding the games are.
 
SinCityAssassin

SinCityAssassin

Member
zidanelucis said:
Lol I was just saying games I'd like on the Switch. Didn't mean UE4 games specifically. Though I think DS3 would run on UE4 if it came to the Switch.

What's the update on that Dark Souls rumor? Wasn't it happening?
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The only substantial bit of info on that rumor is that FROM was testing out Dark Souls 3 and it was fine. No real clarification on whether or not they will actually release it.
 
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Waji

Member
LordKano said:
This isn't a fact as you (neither us) don't know how powerful the system is exactly and how demanding the games are.
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I don't know if they're all just saying what they'd want the Switch to be, but some people really like to think the Switch can't handle any "impressive" game.
If the success is really here, you can be sure to see lots of third party studios try their best to make succesful games coming on it.

For example,I just don't see how KH3 is soo amazing it couldn't run on the Switch. I'm not interested in the game but, just saying.
 
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SolidSnakex

Member
EDarkness said:
Again, it doesn't have to be severely downgraded. Just look at the most recent ports of games on the three systems. The PRO obviously is gonna have more bells and whistles, but the NS version can and would look great still. You're really understating what the system can do. But it doesn't matter, if Square Enix wants to port the game...they will. I think they will, honestly.
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What ports? There aren't any high end games on the Switch that are also available on the PS4 and Xbox One. You've got some indie games and some mid-tier Japanese games. But as of now the higher end games aren't being released at all on the Switch. So, it's impossible to say how one of those games on the Switch would hold up against the same game on the PS4 or Xbox One.
 
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LordKano

Member
By the way, does Fate Extella/Nights of Azure 2/Senran Kagura uses Unreal Engine 4 ? They were recently announced for Switch.
 
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EDarkness

Member
SolidSnakex said:
What ports? There aren't any high end games on the Switch that are also available on the PS4 and Xbox One. You've got some indie games and some mid-tier Japanese games. But as of now the higher end games aren't being released at all on the Switch. So, it's impossible to say how one of those games on the Switch would hold up against the same game on the PS4 or Xbox One.
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We've seen Snake Pass and LEGO City Undercover and those compare favorably to the other systems. There's no reason to believe that the other games won't be running fine. The system is more powerful that the Xbox 360 and the newest Tomb Raider was ported to that system with favorable results, so there's no reason to believe the NS version of these games will be severely downgraded.
 
SinCityAssassin

SinCityAssassin

Member
And then it turns out 15 of these games were from Nintendo because they "mastered" Unreal Engine according to Miyamoto and now everything is terrifying.
 
killatopak

killatopak

Gold Member
JayEH said:
what
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Lol bad example.

I mean the art style and the way they make KH games makes it feel like they can make it amazing and similar looking even if the graphical ability is different on two platforms.

Edit: I'm pretty sure that native screen resolution played a big part of that as well. At the very least 720p kh3 on portable mode would be superb.
 
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lwilliams3

Member
zidanelucis said:
You can shoot it down as much as you want with whatever you want. Fact of the matter is the system isn't powerful enough to run these games. And one that I constantly see being portbegged is a timed and most likely permanent exclusive so I'm not sure why that's even brought up.

KH3 is possible. But I don't think it's happening. FFXV I just don't see happening due to Luminous being a much more powerful and versatile engine than UE4.
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Cutting or toning down graphical effects and resolution can go a long way to scale down with proper engine support. This is not like the Wii U or 3DS situation in which most modern game engines wasn't able to run on those systems.
 
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Mihael Mello Keehl

Banned
zidanelucis said:
FFVII:R is never coming to Switch. It's "First on PS4" Sony has full timed exclusivity for the foreseeable future. Until all parts are out on PS4 it's not going anywhere. And the more likely scenario is that it's going to be PS4/PC only. Sony has their hand in it. People need to keep their expectations in check. This one is not happening.

As for KH3, that's possible since it's already on Xbox but the issue with that at its current state it would break the Switch because it's too weak. It's pretty much a slightly more powerful Wii U. Unless they severely downgrade it it's not happening.

I know people keep making that "UE4 scalable!" excuse but that's not how it works. My phone can run UE4. The Switch being able to run UE4 means jack shit. It uses a mobile processor and mobile chip. Come on guys.

Is it possible? Maybe. Is it going to happen? Probably not. It's the same with FFXV. The game is simply too powerful to run on this system. Expect more low end ports of FFXIII or something or mostly 7th gen 3rd Party games. This system isn't getting any graphically extensive AAA 3rd Party support from this generation. So stuff like FFXV, Red Dead Redemption 2, The Witcher 3, etc. You should pretty much rule out of every single major AAA 3rd Party game.

Again, keep your expectations in check. NIntendo fans do this to themselves every generation and you just end up back at the start. Being a Nintendo fan since the beginning I understand what you go through but please keep your expectations in check. Predict and ask for things that are likely to happen. Don't ask for the impossible because you will be disappointed at what's actually going to happen.
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quoting for future use
 
S

schuelma

Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
I believe KH3 is one of the more likely titles, given SE's recent comments.
 
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Inuhanyou

Believes Dragon Quest is a franchise managed by Sony
killatopak said:
Lol bad example.

I mean the art style and the way they make KH games makes it feel like they can make it amazing and similar looking even if the graphical ability is different on two platforms.
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Apparently Switch's CPU is roughly 40% of PS4's at best case scenario docked.

Running games at that scale is going to be a challenge especially to account for handheld mode without cutbacks, especially for games already in development based around PS4 and not taking switch into account.

KHBBS's comparison is stupid because the game itself is nowhere near the actual scale or fidelity of KH2 period, just certain environments have a good art style and character models can look similar up close.

Crisis core is also a good example. Sometimes it can look visually like PS2 but literally every combat zone is 2 feet wide and encompasses hallways worse than FF13
 
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Gotdatmoney

Member
SolidSnakex said:
What ports? There aren't any high end games on the Switch that are also available on the PS4 and Xbox One. You've got some indie games and some mid-tier Japanese games. But as of now the higher end games aren't being released at all on the Switch. So, it's impossible to say how one of those games on the Switch would hold up against the same game on the PS4 or Xbox One.
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They got CoD running on the Wii. I'm pretty sure if they want to port KH3 to the Switch they can do it. Cut the resolution, reduce the effects, optimize. If there is a market for it, they will try.
 
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bomblord1

Banned
Inuhanyou said:
Apparently Switch's CPU is roughly 40% of PS4's at best case scenario docked.

Running games at that scale is going to be a challenge especially to account for handheld mode without cutbacks, especially for games already in development based around PS4 and not taking switch into account.

KHBBS's comparison is stupid because the game itself is nowhere near the actual scale or fidelity of KH2 period, just certain environments have a good art style and character models can look similar up close.

Crisis core is also a good example. Sometimes it can look visually like PS2 but literally every combat zone is 2 feet wide and encompasses hallways worse than FF13
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The Switches CPU runs at the same clock both docked and undocked.
 
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And_Gignac

Member
Kingdom Hearts just makes too much sense. Nintendo and Disney is la natural partnership as it gets.

I doubt Sony would allow it. It would open the gates for their overall demise in the Japanese market.
 
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TwistedFreeze

Member
Melkr_ said:
Kingdom Hearts just makes too much sense. Nintendo and Disney is la natural partnership as it gets.

I doubt Sony would allow it. It would open the gates for their overall demise in the Japanese market.
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Well it's on the XB1 so that would indicate it'd be up to Square, not Sony
 
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FinalAres

Member
LordKano said:
I'm more and more confident that it's coming. The recent Square Enix comment about porting everything they can to Switch, including future and already existing titles pointed toward this direction.
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FF7 remake on Switch is never never happening. Switch is far too weak.

But KH3? I can see them doing a severely downgraded version. And that would be good enough for me. I don't need uber graphocs Kingdom Hearts. Fingers crossed.
 
killatopak

killatopak

Gold Member
Inuhanyou said:
Apparently Switch's CPU is roughly 40% of PS4's at best case scenario docked.

Running games at that scale is going to be a challenge especially to account for handheld mode without cutbacks, especially for games already in development based around PS4 and not taking switch into account.

KHBBS's comparison is stupid because the game itself is nowhere near the actual scale or fidelity of KH2 period, just certain environments have a good art style and character models can look similar up close.
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This is what I feel like will be the reason it can still look good on the switch even if it has lower resolution and stuff.

I thought being docked or undocked has no bearing on the cpu side since clockspeed stay the same no matter what. It's only the gpu that is improved upon docking.

Hmmm the cpu performance being 40% max of the ps4 could be a big factor. Unless KH3 isn't cpu heavy or they offload some processes to the gpu, this could be what could make or break a Switch port.


Also as I said, in hindsight, the kh bbs example was bad. Lol. I just want to point out how good the art style was for making that game almost look and feel like kh/kh2. Emphasis on almost.
 
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