3DS was a very weak player outside Japan. if there wasn't Pokemon last year it would be already in irrelevancy. Software sales were much bigger problem than hardware.
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3DS was a very weak player outside Japan. if there wasn't Pokemon last year it would be already in irrelevancy. Software sales were much bigger problem than hardware.
Hahaha. Capcom. What a mess lol.
I don't think Switch will have an issue outselling the 3DS in 3-4 year. Simply put the hybrid nature of the device ensures it would be popular in Japan. In terms of the West there is no doubt that this launch has been magnitude times larger than the 3DS launch.
I've said at the beginning of the year that I expected it to be a front-loaded device there due to the nature of the first year lineup:
This year is pretty important for Nintendo - if Splatoon 2 takes off the way I expect it to. They might need to have at least 5-6 million Switches supplied to Japan for the first fiscal year. To me a lot rides on Splatoon 2 being the secondary launch of the Switch in Japan and ensuring the device is a hit with younger audience. The other major factor is that Splatoon 2 needs to drive subs for their online services - so Splatoon 2 becoming a major eSport and a national passtime in Japan in terms of both playing and viewing is going to provide a major boost long term.
Right now Switch is set to outpace 3DS until the price drop by a considerable amount(my guess is going to be around 300-500K). It's just a matter of whether Splatoon 2 is enough to repeat the type of performance 3DS had after the price drop.
Personally I think this December is going to be huge, bigger than 3DS's first December.
https://www.sony.co.jp/SonyInfo/News/Press/201612/16-119/
this seems like the rumored device from Sony.
LOL
this seems like the rumored device from Sony.
LOL
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Vita 2 OMG
Actually this looks really interesting. More interesting to me than a Vita 2. A Yugioh Pad.
Don't know why people thought a vita successor was happening any time soon.
Pretty cool pad though. I assume the cards have an nfc chip that it reads?
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Saint Titanfall
Noone rational thought this.
I christen thee "iPad Of Judgment"
Stone Ocean
Member
I wonder how much the Switch will do once it stops having stock issues.
"It's not me, it's you"
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Saint Titanfall
Thought it was seeing the 2016 there.
I don't it's out yet though.
Plus the recent job listings were for developing os for 'new portable device' which matches this perfectly.
Breaking: Sony bought a Switch, plans to make CFW.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
And now you're arbitrarily calling the expectations low enough. Please, your agenda is failing.
SFV is still 20% behind expectations two years later or so. Thats a failure.
I think anyone with a brain knows that RE HD remakes are more important commercially than how BoF6 did on mobile or Sengoku Basara. Are you even trying anymore?
I think you're wrong. Playstation has always had a clear audience for Japanese games and hence users that seek to play them. Its always been like this. There are many (take a poll on GAF) that mainly play Japanese games or look forward to them and the success of many of these games is a testament to that. Its an additive affect, trying to quantify would be silly considering the amount of variables in play.
Hum for the former I'd argue that Capcom might have been looking for a huge perfomer on mobile that they've yet to get and these ones are making much more money than the 7th port/remake of Resident Evil.
They didn't went at it properly but that's a much bigger commercial prospect than remasters (we've yet to see anything about Resident Evil 2 Remake)
Stone Ocean
Member
The dedicated handheld market ain't big enough for two players anymore. A Vita 2 would only have a chance releasing alongside the Switch.
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Have a look at the Vita's sales and have a serious think about if it's worthwhile.
If you asked GAF they'd probably tell you Vita is super popular too. GAF is ridiculously out of sync with the market.
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Same GAF the predicted Widlands and For Honor Bomba. Not to mention Switch Bomba 3DS bomba and the vita to rule the market. Barely ever talks about COD and for which Japanese games ridiculously over-represented in popularity?
GAF is by every account an awful barometer and is extremely out of touch. It's always been like that.
You mean ur own agenda there? Always saying nothing wrong is Capcom when they had been disappointment almost every year? There is nothing wrong with saying that Capcom made good game but idiotic business moves there.
RE last series is able to reach 6 million. And you called 4 million not low enough? Lol.
MH is always one of their biggest performer and now they are not even able to reach 2 million in the time, which Capcom themselves set to get.
Maybe some brain should work on your head if you said REHD is more important than BoF6 when it is supposed to Capcom big mobile push to the market there and it flop like trash.
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Resident Evil's sales is a large blow regardless of how you look at it. This is Capcom's highest selling franchise per individual major release. It doesn't come out often. It released on 3 reasonably successful platforms. It's performing worse than the average worldwide MH release which is exclusive to the 3DS.
There's no way if your Capcom, you look at that and go "this is fine".
There's no way if your Capcom, you look at that and go "this is fine".
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
I'm not saying GAF represents the market lol
I'm saying you can even see it on GAF. The Japanese success is evidence of Playstation having such an audience.
In the same post I've said SFV was a failure.
Are you being dumb? RE6 shipped 4.9 million in 5-6 months, including the holidays. RE7 shipped 3.5 million in 3 months.
MH missed its expectation by 300k and that was not even a mainline title.
Oh and whats the excuse for Sengoku. I ain't even buying the tripe that BoF6 was some big mobile push by Capcom.
Hero of Legend
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Not necessary the 160+ switches. Hehehe
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Capcom need help.
No one demand Rival Schools ;~;
PS. MH5 for Scorpio.
RampagingSoul
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Yep, that's Capcom, alright.
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Monster Hunter 5 coming as IMAX exclusive.
Still with the same assets
And you thought RE7 is going to had that leg? I had zero trust that it would even reach RE6 5 million sales right now.
And MH still missed its expectation. Whats so hard to understand there? it mean it underperformed.
Sengoku while not a huge IP, showed how many IP of Capcom had falter. I mean, comparing the current Capcom IP list vs last gen, this gen had shown how many dead IP from Capcom there.
And you may keep fighting your fight there on BoF6 not being important there when it is literally the new mainline title for BoF which crash and burn in mobile market there.
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Well, Capcom said everything is fine there.^^ No problemo guys.^^
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Is it me or that paragraph reads like Capcom getting further into the madness?
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Are you telling me we're getting a remaster of the Street Fighter film to go with Ultra Street Fighter 2?
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No a remaster of the movie game.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
Sure JP games do better on PS4, but at the same time, didn't FFXV actually do quite well on XB1?
Also to the whole Capcom discussion, there's no question that Capcom isn't doing well. While they're still making profits, basically all of their franchises are stagnant or declining.
MHXX is probably partly franchise fatigue of gen 4 imo. Being an expansion of a spinoff and the 5th traditional MH game on 3DS, 1.7M isn't all that shabby imo. Still something for Capcom to look into.
RE7 is disappointing. With franchises, you typically want to grow. Given that RE7 has clearly sold much less than RE6, and didn't even meet the very lowered expectations, that's just not a good look for the franchise. Especially when RE7 was actually reviewed well and RE6 wasn't. I honestly think it'd be worth it to go back to the action oriented gameplay, at least in a subseries.
HD ports doing well is nice supplementary income but doesn't come close to solving any of their main problems.
DR4 doing badly isn't that surprising. It looks kind of mediocre and didn't have the benefit of launch that DR3 had.
MHStories seems unfortunate. It looks like they put a lot of effort into making a good product, but it didn't click with the audience they were looking for. 300K isn't that bad, but they put a lot more investment than that. Maybe it'll do alright in the West. If MHStories were to outsell MH4U in the West, that'd be an accomplishment right?
Most importantly though, where are the upcoming games from Capcom? If I'm not mistaken, apart from Great Ace Attorney 2, USF2HD & Disney Afternoon Collection, they have nothing announced that they're working on? I'm sure MH5 or something is in the works, but that's a paltry amount of games they're seemingly working on. I feel that given their output is so small they either need to have their games be huge successes or they're not in great shape. Like there's not even a game in development to say "oh that'll do well" or anything. In terms of new IPs this generation, what have they even done? I guess they tried MHStories & the Great Ace Attorney spinoffs, but anything else (Gaist Crusher back in the day too)?
It's kind of funny how bad things have turned out for Capcom recently when less than 10 years ago many were hailing Capcom and their western focus as the one of the more progressive and correctly orientated Japanese gaming companies. A few years really changes a lot in this industry.
FFXV did well in general. SE has yet to comment on the platform split. IIRC the split was around 7:3 in the US NPD. WW numbers will only skew that number in the PS4's favor even further.
TheDinoman
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Mahvel's coming, man.
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I guess there is no demand for Deep Down on PS4
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Give it a few months, I doubt it'll drop off the sun but it's still supply constrained so it'll be difficult to judge where demand actually is.
I had hard time seeing that one do super well though.O_O
I mean there is still the major system seller thats coming up in July coupled with Minecraft being on a Nintendo handheld for the first time, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe being a huge upgrade over MK7, a new franchise that has portable local multiplayer build in and the most popular Zelda in decades. That ensures that the honeymoon period might last until the beginning of next year at the very least.
DarkLordMalik
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Aren't they releasing a monster hunter movie. PS4/PC basically confirmed for it.I know you all really love debating Capcom platform stuff, so I've created this specially manufactured compilation image to help foster 30 pages of discussion.
They aren't wring with RE movie franchise though as not only it is the highest grossing and most successful video game franchise, it is alao HUGE in China.