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[Polygon] Microsoft, give consumers the FPS counter on the front of the Xbox Scorpio
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I don't think you understand the meaning of the term if you think my post was bitching up a storm.
I mean people will bitch a storm. That's all they do. Putting a timer for luxury reasons and for their own convenience is one of zillions of things that will cause bitching.
Because ancient clock technology is going to break bank for the richest company in the world.
Fredrik
Member
Hahaaa awesome! XD
Seriously though, I'd love an fps counter of any type, I always have it overlayed on my PC anyway so I'm used to it. Give me an fps counter and a video settings menu to tweak and disable some stuff I don't need. Day 1.
I need this in my life
I see your point but why add one more thing that gamers can negatively obsess over?
When consoles sell in the millions, even a few pennies add up.
Robottiimu2000
Member
I wish they gave a pie-chart in front of the scorpio cover..
Android18a
Member
This would mean nothing to the average player anyway. A bit of a daft idea. Maybe if you're going to put a display on the console, let it show what disc is in the system when its in sleep mode so you know whether or not to turn it on by pressing Eject, or whether the game you want to play is currently in.
Could also be useful to display controller battery levels though...
Could also be useful to display controller battery levels though...
VibratingDonkey
Member
I understand this is more about form than function. Because if you want a framerate counter as a user, you'd probably rather have a software solution.
When playing a game, you are looking at the screen, not the console. Since you would only be looking at this information when you're not actively playing a game, there is no need for a little physical display to always show this information, at a distance that you might not be able to read it. This screen/hardware would also add cost.
Software could just log min, max, avg, frametimes, torn frames, curves, offer various sorting methods, diagrams and whatnot. You access it when you want to look at it. Could also offer an overlay, because why not.
As for form, I feel like you would eventually grow out of love with this stupid sexy display.
When I look at images of the XDK, sure it looks real slick for a development kit, but what truly catches my eye is them USB ports on the front. If the Scorpio doesn't have those...
There being no USB on the front, one on the side and who knows how many on the back, is completely baffling. USB ports are infamous for their 50/50 wrong-way insertion rejection. Users don't need to also worry about sideways-finagling trying to feel where the port even is.
When playing a game, you are looking at the screen, not the console. Since you would only be looking at this information when you're not actively playing a game, there is no need for a little physical display to always show this information, at a distance that you might not be able to read it. This screen/hardware would also add cost.
Software could just log min, max, avg, frametimes, torn frames, curves, offer various sorting methods, diagrams and whatnot. You access it when you want to look at it. Could also offer an overlay, because why not.
As for form, I feel like you would eventually grow out of love with this stupid sexy display.
When I look at images of the XDK, sure it looks real slick for a development kit, but what truly catches my eye is them USB ports on the front. If the Scorpio doesn't have those...
There being no USB on the front, one on the side and who knows how many on the back, is completely baffling. USB ports are infamous for their 50/50 wrong-way insertion rejection. Users don't need to also worry about sideways-finagling trying to feel where the port even is.
At first I thought it was an option to display fps on the screen and that it was a bad idea.
Now that I understand what it is I think it's a bad idea.
No change of mind.
EDIT:
That said, I like the display on the design side, but I guess how can it be useful... I can barely see my PS4 from where it is under my tv...
Now that I understand what it is I think it's a bad idea.
No change of mind.
EDIT:
That said, I like the display on the design side, but I guess how can it be useful... I can barely see my PS4 from where it is under my tv...
Banjo-Kazooie
Member
Um no. The average consumer doesn't give a crap
esmith08734
Member
The hardcore gamer is already buying a Scorpio on the promise of a stronger console alone. The average consumers doesn't know what frames per second really means. This is completely pointless.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
This guy is literally the worst writer of all time.
Of all time.
Of all time.
hydrophilic attack
Member
They should package the Scorpio with a framed picture of Phil Spencer
Dee Dah Dave
Member
Why does this thread continue?
The article was a clear joke and Albert already said it's not in the retail version.
The article was a clear joke and Albert already said it's not in the retail version.
I mean... what are you going to do when you drop below 30fps then? Nothing. What is the point.
Also, I'm sure developers struggling to hit 30fps for 4k (and let's face it, this will happen) would love having a indicator of judgement sitting on the face of the console.
Far too much emphasis on framerate in all walks of gaming. It becomes more important than the actual game itself in places.
Also, I'm sure developers struggling to hit 30fps for 4k (and let's face it, this will happen) would love having a indicator of judgement sitting on the face of the console.
Far too much emphasis on framerate in all walks of gaming. It becomes more important than the actual game itself in places.
_Spr_Drnk
Banned
Beaten, Damnit.
coughlanio
Member
An optional FPS counter in software would be nice, and would give third party developers more incentive to think about the performance of their games.
BlazeHedgehog
Member
Polygon sure is making a lot of demands lately.
Tarin02543
Member
At first I was really sold on the idea until I realized most games on this system will need Freesync or VRR to appear smooth.
If you are worried about saving money, you would be getting the Xbox One S instead of a beast machine. This console is designed for the obsessed and no one but the obsessed.
Apple is making Scorpio now?
Nightmare452
Member
No, just no. Polygon, I love ya, but you are killing me here.
In the end, I would say 1% of people care about FPS (trully care). Really, when I think about playing Uncharted, Destiny, Halo 5 mp, etc, I don't ever think back "that was a good consistent 60fps." No, I remember the levels, the enemies, the combat, the mp games. FPS counting and consistent 60 or 30 is great and all and I prefer high fps, but never has a decision been made based on those. Why do I care to even see em, let along a regular person.
Just no.
In the end, I would say 1% of people care about FPS (trully care). Really, when I think about playing Uncharted, Destiny, Halo 5 mp, etc, I don't ever think back "that was a good consistent 60fps." No, I remember the levels, the enemies, the combat, the mp games. FPS counting and consistent 60 or 30 is great and all and I prefer high fps, but never has a decision been made based on those. Why do I care to even see em, let along a regular person.
Just no.
adversarial
Member
I thought the article was pretty funny; there are a strange amount of people getting very defensive about their FPS.
boneyjangles
Member
Thank god dorks don't design hardware.
Start counting in millions of units....
An LCD screen, extra production time, development time... everything has a price... when you have a price goal to launch the damn thing, you need to start taking those things into consideration...
pixelation
Member
Hahaha... that would be terrible!
Well they've already used the extra production time and development time to make that DEV kit
The Hamburglar
Banned
this console really is the second coming since Phil 'Jesus' Spencer to some people lol.
Hatefilled Vengeance
Member
Polygon continues to be the worst.
Okami Haundo
Member
It's weird that I want the OLED screen on retail units, but not for FPS counting. I want Scorpio to have built-in mics ALA Amazon Echo for Cortana control. Use the screen to let me know when she starts listening. The whole "Xbox On" command still exists goddamnit. Just let me control my Xbox with my voice without needing Kinect.
It could also be used to display the time, but only if you used a weird button combination to set it up. For 99% of users it'll display as --:-- as a result, recapturing the VCR vibe that the OG Xbox One gave us.
It could also be used to display the time, but only if you used a weird button combination to set it up. For 99% of users it'll display as --:-- as a result, recapturing the VCR vibe that the OG Xbox One gave us.
For a brief moment I thought "K/D Ratio on a DRO?" Lol . glad I amnot the only one.
options cost money for people who dont want them
DarkoMaledictus
Tier Whore
Yep, just like Fraps on pc, that what I use all the time on pc anyway!
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