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[Eolz]

I got the joke the first time. Second time the rumour came up as well. Third and fourth.....its just getting sad, repeatedly focusing and following on something that you apparently saw as hearsay.

If there are more reputable sources then a discussion seems interesting, but there hasn't been any, has there?



I can call up numerous rumours from questionable sources and "laugh" at them when they don't show up, but whats the point when these rumours have little valid basis. Its like, what are you laughing at?

I don't know, it's just like that rumor of the exclusivity deal of MonHun on 3DS "ending 3 years from now", "no wait, now it's 2 more", etc. Or the Switch using Polaris tech.
Those are rumors that are just so out there that you can't help finding that funny every time, even if it's sadder at each new variation.

Of course it's not an hilarious joke. But it's still recent enough to find that a bit funny.

At best they will do a streaming solution for the PS4 to make a sorta Switch, but competing outright with the Switch as a dedicated handheld now seems like a battle you won't win, ever.

Don't they already have that streaming solution though? For PC and smart devices?
Sure, they could make their own device for that, but it's not like they're Nvidia, or Amazon. They don't really have a point in doing that when they can be an app everywhere, as a paid service.

 

[noshten]

Preorders
[SWI] Splatoon 2 - 432
[3DS] Dragon Quest XI: In Search of Departed Time - 266
[PS4] Dragon Quest XI: In Search of Departed Time - 256

So I guess COMG being the only place taking Splatoon 2 pre-orders didn't really effect the amount of pre-orders. We've seen pre-orders blow up once again now that it's officially up for preorder. I don't think Nintendo will be able to meet demand for Splatoon 2 or Switch unless they focus their shipments for July/August to Japan.

 

[AdventureRacing]

With Mario kart dropping as much as it did I think a big week of HW for the switch looks unlikely. Thinking around the same as last week. Hopefully they can start supplying more soon.

As to the above no way will they meet demand unless they can massively increase supply very soon. Even in the slowest part of the year they're struggling to keep up. Splatoon 2 is the biggest release of the year and possibly of the life of the device. No way can Nintendo match that demand.

I still think we haven't seen the last of Sony in the handheld space. Time will tell.

We haven't seen the end of Sony on portable devices but we have on dedicated handhelds IMO. Sony is having great success in the mobile space and that had no impact on their console efforts. I think it's more likely to push more into mobile rather than trying another expensive piece of HW with little benefit.

 

[Fdkn]

I got the joke the first time. Second time the rumour came up as well. Third and fourth.....its just getting sad, repeatedly focusing and following on something that you apparently saw as hearsay.

If there are more reputable sources then a discussion seems interesting, but there hasn't been any, has there?



I can call up numerous rumours from questionable sources and "laugh" at them when they don't show up, but whats the point when these rumours have little valid basis. Its like, what are you laughing at?

it shouldn't come as a surprise that a forum that lives permanently with the falacious mantra of 'competition is good so we need every platform to sell well' is rejoicing at the current trend of handheld market going back to a defacto monopoly.

 

[Takao]

We haven't seen the end of Sony on portable devices but we have on dedicated handhelds IMO. Sony is having great success in the mobile space and that had no impact on their console efforts. I think it's more likely to push more into mobile rather than trying another expensive piece of HW with little benefit.

Unprecedented success.

If you're referring to mobile software, I highly doubt any large amount of people will care about any of their games that isn't named Hot Shots. Sony's active franchises rely so heavily on gameplay that doesn't translate well to touch screens or are overly cinematic. Fate/Go is probably going to be an extraordinary exception for them.

 

[hiska-kun]

Mario Kart 8 DX was 40pt last week, this week is 38pt on Comg. So yeah, flat numbers for the Switch this week going by this retailer. I don't know if Tsutaya or Rakuten can show us some other evidence.

 

[AdventureRacing]

Unprecedented success.

If you're referring to mobile software, I highly doubt any large amount of people will care about any of their games that isn't named Hot Shots. Sony's active franchises rely so heavily on gameplay that doesn't translate well to touch screens or are overly cinematic. Fate/Go is probably going to be an extraordinary exception for them.

I meant SW. Fate may be an extreme exception but it shows what they can achieve in the mobile space. They'd be lucky to make as much money off of an entirely new handheld vs that game alone.

 

[iceblade997]

With Mario kart dropping as much as it did I think a big week of HW for the switch looks unlikely. Thinking around the same as last week. Hopefully they can start supplying more soon.

As to the above no way will they meet demand unless they can massively increase supply very soon. Even in the slowest part of the year they're struggling to keep up. Splatoon 2 is the biggest release of the year and possibly of the life of the device. No way can Nintendo match that demand.



We haven't seen the end of Sony on portable devices but we have on dedicated handhelds IMO. Sony is having great success in the mobile space and that had no impact on their console efforts. I think it's more likely to push more into mobile rather than trying another expensive piece of HW with little benefit.

Surely that'd ("the biggest release of the life of the device") a Wii Sports type title or (failing that which seems likely) MK8D (or its successor if there is one)? MK8 way outsold Splatoon on the Wii U, and MK Wii was second only to Wii Sports on the Wii.

 

[AdventureRacing]

Surely that'd ("the biggest release of the life of the device") a Wii Sports type title or (failing that which seems likely) MK8D (or its successor if there is one)? MK8 way outsold Splatoon on the Wii U, and MK Wii was second only to Wii Sports on the Wii.

We're talking Japan only where I believe splatoon was the best selling game on the wii U handily beating MK8. I don't think it's anywhere close to guaranteed on a platform that will likely see releases of MH, Pokemon, animal crossing, DQ etc. It's looking like this generations monster hunter though and that's not something Nintendo seems prepared for supply wise. Maybe the bundle is a sign that things will dramatically change by July.

 

[horuhe]

Rakuten Books Sales Ranking Week 20, 2017 (May 15 - May 21)

01./01. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo)
02./02. [3DS] Monster Hunter Double Cross <ACT> (Capcom)
03./03. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild <ADV> (Nintendo)
04./06. [3DS] Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia <SLG> (Nintendo)
05./05. [3DS] Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission X <ADV> (Bandai Namco)
06./00. [PS4] Prey <ADV> (Bethesda)
07./07. [3DS] Pro Baseball: Famista Climax <SPT> (Bandai Namco)
08./09. [PS4] NieR: Automata <RPG> (Square Enix)
09./00. [PS4] Danganronpa 1 + 2 Reload <ADV> (Spike Chunsoft)
10./14. [PS4] Dark Souls III: The Fire Fades Edition <RPG> (From Software)
11./08. [3DS] Mario Sports Super Stars <SPT> (Nintendo)
12./12. [WiiU] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild <ADV> (Nintendo)
13./10. [NSW] 1-2-Switch <ETC> (Nintendo)
14./16. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf - Welcome amiibo <ETC> (Nintendo)
15./13. [PS4] Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Wildlands <ADV> (Ubisoft)
16./04. [3DS] Attack on Titan: Escape from Certain Death <ADV> (Koei Tecmo)
17./20. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo)
18./00. [PS4] Titanfall 2 [EA Best Hits] <ACT> (Electronic Arts)
19./00. [PSV] Danganronpa 1 + 2 Reload [PlayStation Vita the Best] <ADV> (Spike Chunsoft)
20./11. [3DS] Super Mario Maker for Nintendo 3DS <ACT> (Nintendo)

Rakuten Books Pre-Orders Ranking Week 20, 2017 (May 15 - May 21)

01./00. [NSW] Splatoon 2 <ACT> (Nintendo)
02./01. [PS4] Dragon Quest XI: In Search of Departed Time <RPG> (Square Enix)
03./02. [3DS] Dragon Quest XI: In Search of Departed Time <RPG> (Square Enix)
04./04. [PS4] Tekken 7 <FTG> (Bandai Namco)
05./11. [NSW] ARMS <ACT> (Nintendo)
06./09. [PS4] Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana <RPG> (Nihon Falcom)
07./06. [PS4] Guilty Gear Xrd REV 2 <FTG> (Arc System Works)
08./05. [PS4] New Hot Shots Golf <SPT> (Sony Interactive)
09./07. [3DS] The Great Ace Attorney 2: The Resolve of Ry&#363;nosuke Naruhod&#333; <ADV> (Capcom)
10./14. [3DS] Layton’s Mystery Journey: Katrielle and The Millionaires’ Conspiracy <ADV> (Level 5)

Rakuten Books Ranking Week 19, 2017 (May 08 - May 14)

***WARNING***

* Note: Games on the Rakuten Books Rankings are ONLY based on sales at Rakuten Books and does NOT count games sold by other retailers at Rakuten.
** Note 2: Games on the Pre-Orders Ranking are counted as net sales, so it might possibly affect the games listed on the Sales Ranking, since those sales are NOT added afterwards.

 

[hiska-kun]

Tsutaya's Ranking Week 20 2017

01./01. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo)
02./02. [3DS] Monster Hunter Double Cross <ACT> (Capcom)
03./05. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild <ADV> (Nintendo)
04./00. [PS4] Prey <ADV> (Bethesda)
05./04. [3DS] Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission X <TBL> (Bandai Namco Games)
06./06. [3DS] Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia <SLG> (Nintendo)
07./08. [PS4] NieR: Automata <RPG> (Square Enix)
08./03. [3DS] Attack on Titan: Escape from Certain Death <ADV> (Koei Tecmo)
09./07. [PS4] Dark Souls III: The Fire Fades Edition <RPG> (From Software)
10./00. [PS4] Danganronpa 1 + 2 Reload <ADV> (Spike Chunsoft)
11./09. [3DS] Pro Baseball Famista Climax <SPT> (Bandai Namco Games)
12./13. [WIU] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild <ADV> (Nintendo)
13./11. [PS4] Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Wildlands <ADV> (Ubisoft)
14./14. [PS4] Grand Theft Auto V [New Price Edition] <ACT> (Take-Two Interactive Japan)
15./10. [3DS] Mario Sports Superstars <SPT> (Nintendo)
16./12. [NSW] 1-2-Switch <ETC> (Nintendo)
17./15. [PS4] Horizon: Zero Dawn <ADV> (Sony Interactive Entertainment)
18./24. [PS4] Minecraft: PlayStation 4 Edition <ADV> (Sony Computer Entertainment)
19./20. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf - Welcome amiibo <ETC> (Nintendo)
20./16. [3DS] Cube Creator DX <ADV> (Arc System Works)

 

[Fdkn]

seems like another good hold week for NieR

 

[iceblade997]

We're talking Japan only where I believe splatoon was the best selling game on the wii U handily beating MK8. I don't think it's anywhere close to guaranteed on a platform that will likely see releases of MH, Pokemon, animal crossing, DQ etc. It's looking like this generations monster hunter though and that's not something Nintendo seems prepared for supply wise. Maybe the bundle is a sign that things will dramatically change by July.

Ah I'm sorry. My mistake. Thanks for the clarification.

 

[thestopsign]

I'm not rooting against Zelda because I love it as a game, but I am pretty sure at this point it won't have the legs to take it to a million this year, just like I said it wouldn't after Mario Kart and Golden Week. It'll definitely uptick again with higher hardware availability, but it just isn't showing the resiliency it needed to make it to the million mark in the slower period of the year.

 

[Passose]

So I guess COMG being the only place taking Splatoon 2 pre-orders didn't really effect the amount of pre-orders. We've seen pre-orders blow up once again now that it's officially up for preorder. I don't think Nintendo will be able to meet demand for Splatoon 2 or Switch unless they focus their shipments for July/August to Japan.

problem is splatoon is also a thing outside of Japan, they just can't focus on Japan alone during Splatoon 2 launch

 

[ZSaberLink]

I'm not rooting against Zelda because I love it as a game, but I am pretty sure at this point it won't have the legs to take it to a million this year, just like I said it wouldn't after Mario Kart and Golden Week. It'll definitely uptick again with higher hardware availability, but it just isn't showing the resiliency it needed to make it to the million mark in the slower period of the year.

And what's why you're called thestopsign xD.


Btw, with the PS4, is it just me, or the "newer" experiences (Nier, Nioh & Western games) seem to be doing much better than the "known" experiences (Yakuza, Tales, RE, etc.)? Maybe if Japanese companies started investing in new IPs in the right genres they could have more success? Normally Level 5 is the one JP company that is constantly making new IPs, but they seem to be kind of stagnant right now. They want to revive Layton & Inazuma, and Snack World looks like it's going to bomb.

 

[horuhe]

According to Rakuten, ARMS got a great increase in pre-orders, after the direct. Obviously, Splatoon dominated the chart during all the weekend. Switch bundles went down some positions, so we can expect flat numbers or even lower depending the shipment of this weekend.

 

[Vena]

According to Rakuten, ARMS got a great increase in pre-orders, after the direct. Obviously, Splatoon dominated the chart during all the weekend. Switch bundles went down aome positions, so we can expect flat numbers or even lower depending the shipment of this weekend.

I wonder if we'll see another low stock week circa 25k.

 

[Passose]

And what's why you're called thestopsign xD.


Btw, with the PS4, is it just me, or the "newer" experiences (Nier, Nioh & Western games) seem to be doing much better than the "known" experiences (Yakuza, Tales, RE, etc.)? Maybe if Japanese companies started investing in new IPs in the right genres they could have more success? Normally Level 5 is the one JP company that is constantly making new IPs, but they seem to be kind of stagnant right now. They want to revive Layton & Inazuma, and Snack World looks like it's going to bomb.

I have a feeling Ni No Kuni 2 is going to bomb, but the first one despite sold mediocre in Japan was a success in the west so who knows

 

[duckroll]

I have a feeling Ni No Kuni 2 is going to bomb, but the first one despite sold mediocre in Japan was a success in the west so who knows

Bomb... where?

 

[AdventureRacing]

problem is splatoon is also a thing outside of Japan, they just can't focus on Japan alone during Splatoon 2 launch

Splatoon did well outside of Japan but it's a whole different level of success in Japan. It has the potential to be the highest selling game or close to it this gen in Japan. Outside of Japan it's a good seller but not even close to Nintendos bigger franchises.

According to Rakuten, ARMS got a great increase in pre-orders, after the direct. Obviously, Splatoon dominated the chart during all the weekend. Switch bundles went down some positions, so we can expect flat numbers or even lower depending the shipment of this weekend.

Hopefully ARMS sees another boost after the test punch.

I wonder if we'll see another low stock week circa 25k.

Seems very likely at this point looking at SW predictions.

 

[AquaWateria]

According to Rakuten, ARMS got a great increase in pre-orders, after the direct. Obviously, Splatoon dominated the chart during all the weekend. Switch bundles went down some positions, so we can expect flat numbers or even lower depending the shipment of this weekend.

Hopefully the Testpunch further increases it.

 

[Hattori]

Bomb... where?

everywhere

 

[Bitanator]

I have a feeling Ni No Kuni 2 is going to be da bomb

Me too

 

[casiopao]

Bomb... where?

Japan?

 

[MANUELF]

Im also expecting bomb status for Ninokuni 2, is simply too late for the market

 

[Calm Mind]

Very good list of reasons why no PSP3

Three platforms?

 

[Passose]

Bomb... where?

Japan,but I think it will do ok ww

 

[noshten]

problem is splatoon is also a thing outside of Japan, they just can't focus on Japan alone during Splatoon 2 launch

The good thing is that outside of Japan - July/August is a bit of a slow period in the West where most consoles generally don't sell much more than 200K in NPD and I'm guessing a similar amount in Europe/ROTW.
It's just a matter of whether Nintendo will be able to ramp up production and shipments by that time, if they can do it I can certainly see Japan getting the lion share of shipments for those two months. I think Nintendo aren't underestimating demand in Japan - looking at bundles, accessories, amiibos and other things announced thus far.

I'm not rooting against Zelda because I love it as a game, but I am pretty sure at this point it won't have the legs to take it to a million this year, just like I said it wouldn't after Mario Kart and Golden Week. It'll definitely uptick again with higher hardware availability, but it just isn't showing the resiliency it needed to make it to the million mark in the slower period of the year.

It's still in 3rd place in Rakuten & Tsutaya, I don't see how it doesn't pass a million this year. There is around 400K left and we are in week 19, so on average Zelda BotW needs 12K per week to pass a million by the end of the year. There isn't really a major SP game well after Splatoon 2 launches - I can definitely see Zelda having a few weeks this year well beyond 12K. There is also additional DLC which will receive marketing and generate interest among new Switch buyers. In December and summer vacation especially I expect at least 10 or so weeks where Zelda is well beyond the 12K needed to reach a million.

 

[duckroll]

Japan?

Japan,but I think it will do ok ww

Okay but why would we even be talking about that like it is some prediction? It's a game which is funded by Bandai Namco for the international market, one which Level5 themselves does not seem to care to market and is only publishing it in Japan reluctantly. There is no Japanese title for the game, There is no Japanese footage. Everything they have shown is an English build. Even on the Japanese site: http://www.ninokuni.jp/rk/

No one expects this to sell well in Japan because Level5 isn't even interested in selling it to Japan.

 

[casiopao]

Okay but why would we even be talking about that like it is some prediction? It's a game which is funded by Bandai Namco for the international market, one which Level5 themselves does not seem to care to market and is only publishing it in Japan reluctantly. There is no Japanese title for the game, There is no Japanese footage. Everything they have shown is an English build. Even on the Japanese site: http://www.ninokuni.jp/rk/

No one expects this to sell well in Japan because Level5 isn't even interested in selling it to Japan.

I am just answering ur question though hiks.TT

Jk jk. I do had some inkling that it would probably wont do as well as the first NnK as level-5 is handling the game kinda bad? No hype at all and info at all since the trailer.

I can see some decline in the west like what Bravely second vs bravely default number does.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

That would make no sense. Ni No Kuni II has gotten more attention in the west than the first ever had up to a similar point. If its reviewed well it should surpass the original, which sold 1.1 million WW. PS4 has built up a good JRPG base as well.

Like some have said, Japan is inconsequential for the title, considering the PS3 version sold 100k last time I checked.

 

[8 X 11 Printer Paper]

Unless Namco screws the pooch with their Steam version of NNK2, the game should have little issue passing the original's sales worldwide.

 

[Sandfox]

I'm really down on Ni No Kuni 2, but it will do better than the original with the Steam release.

 

[Oregano]

Unless Namco screws the pooch with their Steam version of NNK2, the game should have little issue passing the original's sales worldwide.

I'm really down on Ni No Kuni 2, but it will do better than the original with the Steam release.

Yup even if it was somehow flat on PS4 the Steam release should give it another 500k easily.

 

[Fiendcode]

Yup even if it was somehow flat on PS4 the Steam release should give it another 500k easily.

What about the 600k NNK1 did on DS?

 

[casiopao]

Yup even if it was somehow flat on PS4 the Steam release should give it another 500k easily.

500k...... u are gambling high there lol. 0-0

That would make no sense. Ni No Kuni II has gotten more attention in the west than the first ever had up to a similar point. If its reviewed well it should surpass the original, which sold 1.1 million WW. PS4 has built up a good JRPG base as well.

Like some have said, Japan is inconsequential for the title, considering the PS3 version sold 100k last time I checked.

I just feel that the information blackout is going to hurt the series a bit. It had been quite some time since its announcement and i dont think we had seen any news about the game at all right?

It surely going to dampened some of the early hype there.

 

[Passose]

Yup even if it was somehow flat on PS4 the Steam release should give it another 500k easily.

even a super well received game like Nier Automata only solemd for about 350k, 500k is too much for NNK2 though, but I still think NNK2 will sell better than the original

 

[Sandfox]

500k...... u are gambling high there lol. 0-0



I just feel that the information blackout is going to hurt the series a bit. It had been quite some time since its announcement and i dont think we had seen any news about the game at all right?

It surely going to dampened some of the early hype there.

We got a new trailer in December, but I think that's it. I don't think the game is all that much more attention from fans than the original though, nor do I do think the PS4 having a "good JRPG base" will make some sort of difference.

 

[Kanann]

Game will be good, but sale will tank like 200k~300k max.

 

[duckroll]

even a super well received game like Nier Automata only solemd for about 350k, 500k is too much for NNK2 though, but I still think NNK2 will sell better than the original

Do you expect Nier Automata to... stop selling? Do you think it will sell 0 copies moving forward even when it is on sale for 20% off, 30% off, 35% off, 40% off, etc?

Game will be good, but sale will tank like 200k~300k max.

That's a really low number for worldwide sales. It should be able to ship >500k easily.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

500k...... u are gambling high there lol. 0-0



I just feel that the information blackout is going to hurt the series a bit. It had been quite some time since its announcement and i dont think we had seen any news about the game at all right?

It surely going to dampened some of the early hype there.

Games don't need constant info feeds. When they are ready to announce the date, I'm sure you can expect another trailer. We just had one at PSX.

 

[Passose]

Do you expect Nier Automata to... stop selling? Do you think it will sell 0 copies moving forward even when it is on sale for 20% off, 30% off, 35% off, 40% off, etc?

fair enough

 

[casiopao]

Games don't need constant info feeds. When they are ready to announce the date, I'm sure you can expect another trailer. We just had one at PSX.

They dont need but to make sure the fans is engaged to the product they sure need to. There is a reason why ffxv keep coming with info like every month till it released or nintendo direct for certain title is being pushed.

Engaging fans will lead to WoM being spread around and increase its sales.

We got a new trailer in December, but I think that's it. I don't think the game is all that much more attention from fans than the original though, nor do I do think the PS4 having a "good JRPG base" will make some sort of difference.

I am just thinking that the first had that huge pull in ps3 as one of the big jrpg coming out on consoles after year of disappointment while for NnK , jrpg genre is not exactly facing any drought at all so it will had quite some competition and if L-5 dont try to engage with the fans, some would probably forget about the game even coming.

 

[Kanann]

That's a really low number for worldwide sales. It should be able to ship >500k easily.

Japan

WW can be million seller because of our lovely Steam.

 

[duckroll]

Japan

WW can be million seller because of our lovely Steam.

But 200-300k in Japan would be a 2x or better improvement on the PS3 game.

 

[Cerium]

Three platforms?

PSVR

 

[Passose]

But 200-300k in Japan would be a 2x or better improvement on the PS3 game.

will it outsell the ps3 version? Will it go through the odds and sell over one million in Japan? Will it make Ni No Kuni a big IP in Japan?

Spoiler

Find out in the next exciting episode of dragon ball z

 

[Kanann]

But 200-300k in Japan would be a 2x or better improvement on the PS3 game.

What the mother of Miyasaki, PS3 version was just 150k?

Goodbye then.

 

[Calm Mind]

PSVR

Are you counting Vita in all this? Sony has not supported that thing in forever.