MR ARCADE FOREVER
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Nintendo E3 plans detailed
- Thread starter Monumma
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I think, per usual, you are being way too negative and not showing patience. Switch lineup year 1 first party is shaping up to be exceptionally strong and Nintendo is probably already working on spacing out software for 2018.
mickagau33
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For me, the only reason for "hey Pikmin" to not be 4 was precisely because it is not called 4. But knowing Nintendo didn't want Pikmin 4 to be called 4 in the end and aiming at some sort of reboot change my perspective. Also I could picture Team Pikmin supervising the game and Harzest doing the proper programming (it also saves some resources at Nintendo). Not holding my breath for Pikmin 4 on switch anymore. Maybe Pikmin 3 VC if the wiiU VC is a thing.
James Scott
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Yeah, i've been a bit skeptical about Pikmin 4 actually being a thing. I'd hope so and that Miyamoto didn't just mean Hey! Pikmin which was likely basically completed by the time he made that statement.
Any reputable rumors saying otherwise? Would be weird for them to make two different pikmin games so close to each other
Any reputable rumors saying otherwise? Would be weird for them to make two different pikmin games so close to each other
Dark Cloud
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I would love to know how many Nintendo systems had a better first year than the Switch from first party. This system is amazing when you have their two BIGGEST single player IP's coming in its first year with Botw and Super Mario.
Let's see what we have from Nintendo so far with the Switch
-Zelda Botw
-Snipperclips
-Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
-Super Mario Odyssey
-Fire Emblem Warriors (their IP being used)
-Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle (their IP being used)
-ARMS
-Splatoon 2
-Project Mekuru
-Xenoblade Chronicles 2
This isn't even a full year or all the games announced for a full year. We have rumored Retro's game, Pokemon Stars, Smash 4 Switch, Fire Emblem Switch and Pikmin 4.
I love this. The Wii U didn't get Zelda until 4 years in. It got 3D Mario one year later. It got Mario Kart almost 2 years later. It got Splatoon almost 3 years later. It got Xenoblade 3 years later and Hyrule Warriors 2 years later. This is just the beginning and I'm so happy and optimistic from what I see.
Let's see what we have from Nintendo so far with the Switch
-Zelda Botw
-Snipperclips
-Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
-Super Mario Odyssey
-Fire Emblem Warriors (their IP being used)
-Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle (their IP being used)
-ARMS
-Splatoon 2
-Project Mekuru
-Xenoblade Chronicles 2
This isn't even a full year or all the games announced for a full year. We have rumored Retro's game, Pokemon Stars, Smash 4 Switch, Fire Emblem Switch and Pikmin 4.
I love this. The Wii U didn't get Zelda until 4 years in. It got 3D Mario one year later. It got Mario Kart almost 2 years later. It got Splatoon almost 3 years later. It got Xenoblade 3 years later and Hyrule Warriors 2 years later. This is just the beginning and I'm so happy and optimistic from what I see.
Judging by how little support the likes of Capcom & Level-5 are giving the Switch, I'm kinda expecting a slow start. I'm not sure if any third party expected the Switch to be a hit.
At least Bandai Namco's starting to get the ball rolling.
WhiteWaterM00se
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Someone suggested including GTA online with LA Noire. It would make the game sell a lot. But I don't know how technically feasible that even is.
This. People are acting like because Switch came out during PS4's lifespan, it should have the amount of games PS4 does already. Even with all of this coming out this year, it means we'll likely get Pokemon next year, Fire Emblem Animal Crossing, etc. Switch is off to a great start.
As long as we're looking at Nintendo system first years, I think the Cube had a pretty good one:
Super Smash Bros. Melee (masterpiece on the level of BotW)
Pikmin (gorgeous new IP)
Luigi's Mansion
REmake
Eternal Darkness
Mario Sunshine
Animal Crossing
Metroid Prime juuuust outside the 1 year mark
Switch has a lot of room to end up being really awesome though, it might just take the cake. Edit: Oh, I didn't really stick to first party. But it doesn't make too big of a difference either way.
It's probably more that the lack of third party support is more of an issue than what the first party is providing. People want to see some effort put into the system with new games or exclusive ones rather than enchanced ports of older games and such. We'll likely see a big flow of third party effort next year.
ok so first off half of the games on this list are not even released
second this wiiu zelda argument makes 0 sense when we all publicly confirmed know that the switch zelda is a wiiu port
Dark Cloud
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They should wait until E3 2018 to see how third party developers turn out. Even Reggie said they're playing a wait and see with the Switch. As long as it sells well you'll see more third party games. Nintendo's best option is to keep doing collaborations with third party devs to make games for them like Bayonetta, Wonderful 101, Mario + Rabbids, Hyrule/FE Warriors.
Yeah I feel collaborating efforts are something they are going more for this system, which is good because you could get some weird ass cool projects as a result. The other option like I mention is to also try to grab exclusives when they can to expand their library. On the topics of ports I feel like either way the system will not get much western support or at least new ones. For japan....well when Monster Hunter hits then surely the flood gates will open.
BRSxIgnition
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I wonder if Nintendo is going to start bringing back a more varied lineup with the Switch?
Looking back at the Gamecube, the last Nintendo Home Console I really loved - though the Wii had some good games too - it had its share of party games as well as serious games. (Path of Radiance, Metroid Prime 1 & 2, etc.)
As of late, Nintendo feels very much as if it's sticking to family friendly games like Splatoon and ARMS, and while I enjoy those, I'd love a more serious Fire Emblem or Metroid Prime-like game on the Switch.
Retro's new IP and the new Fire Emblem could be good - sincerely hope that they're more mature than Nintendo's usual offerings, if only to vary things up more.
Looking back at the Gamecube, the last Nintendo Home Console I really loved - though the Wii had some good games too - it had its share of party games as well as serious games. (Path of Radiance, Metroid Prime 1 & 2, etc.)
As of late, Nintendo feels very much as if it's sticking to family friendly games like Splatoon and ARMS, and while I enjoy those, I'd love a more serious Fire Emblem or Metroid Prime-like game on the Switch.
Retro's new IP and the new Fire Emblem could be good - sincerely hope that they're more mature than Nintendo's usual offerings, if only to vary things up more.
foxuzamaki
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Nintendo needs those online games to further justify the paid subscription service, I feel that is the main reason Nintendo concentrated on these games year 1 and the more single player focused games come next year, hinted at by games like xenoblade 2 supposedly being late this year and fire emblem next year
Agreed, and I don't doubt that's coming. Wii U did have games like Xenoblade Chronicles, Bayonetta 2, ZombiU, and a few others - but none of those were first party. It's time for Nintendo to bring game out for their older audience. I really do think a Metroid game is in development. I'd also argue that while Breath of the Wild is certainly "family-friendly", it definitely had enough depth for adults to enjoy on a higher level as well.
Should be closer to definitive version.
TheDinoman
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Uh, the bolded are "first party". They were published by Nintendo.
Monolith Soft is also a subsidiary of Nintendo in the same way Retro Studios is, so yes, Xenoblade is 100% first party.
Mithos
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What I want to see if Bethesda/Nintendo will allow important mods like "Unofficial Skyrim Patch" or not, without that...
I guess I meant developed by Nintendo directly, a la Metroid.
TheDinoman
Member
Well, like I said, Monolith is a subsidiary of Nintendo. Just like Retro Studios.
If Retro were to make another Metroid Prime for Switch, would it not count for you considering it's not from EPD?
Well, between BOTW, FE Switch, Xenoblade Chronicles 2 and FE Warriors, I feel there's some more 'mature' content in the pipeline for Switch. I'm pretty sure this won't be a one-off, seeing as they also marketed Skyrim as a defining concept game for the system in the initial trailer.
Nintendo owns MonolithSoft, so Xenoblade Chronicles is first party.
I'm hoping "return of home console Fire Emblem" and the backlash against the manga-esque story telling of Fates (should've been more backlash against Awakening...) means that we're getting a nerdy, world-building heavy, war story heavy Fire Emblem again. I hope it means a return to the sort of character/world/story ambitions of the Radiant duology. We'll see. I'd also like a refresh of the artistic direction.
I'm also hoping there is something behind Reggie's talk of "true" Metroid--which is an odd line for him to take after how he talked about Federation Force as what we all really wanted, deep down inside.
FE and Metroid returning to form would be huge for me. Those two and Zelda are my core Nintendo interests, i.e. a large part of my core interest in gaming in general
.This is exactly how it looks to me.
I want to hear "That SMT you saw, that's 2018," "Octopath Traveler, 2018," "Atlus has EO successor going on for Switch," "Capcom is on board with Monster Hunter 2018-2019," "This is Dragon Quest XI Switch," etc.
I want to hear a lot of PS4/Switch actually replacing PS4/Vita.
Yeah. Nintendo typically tries to lead from the front, but they have also done more outreach it seems this time. It just doesn't feel that out-reach was particularly successful in garnering early support from traditional sources.
I just really hope 2018 is a bright year for 3DS style support for Switch and some expanded support from PS4/Switch multiplatform. That's the kind of support that I think Nintendo has the best chance with.
Xenoblade would be still first party in this case
However i think (among the fanbase general really, not specifically you) there is too much focus on first party / exclusiv stuff.
I think it would also pay for nintendo off to have basicly multiplat stuff, maybe in some cases more. Im pretty sure if they announce persona 5 for switch e3 instead of something like bayonetta 3, persona 5 would sell more
Soulscribe
Member
Between the Rabbids RPG and Mario Odyssey I doubt we'll be seeing more than one major Nintendo IP announced for 2017. Just knowing Nintendo I doubt they'd stuff the rest of the year with more than two big entries. Hoping Pokemon Stars gets announced for the fall, and maybe they'll hint at Smash and Metroid for next year.
One can only hope for the miracle to happen
Okami Haundo
Member
I don't think we'll get "new" major Nintendo IP announced for 2017, but I fully expect those ports of Pokemon/Smash. If they were brand new entries I might agree that they'd want to space them out more.
I'm kind of torn on this one! If it is out this year, I don't expect it any earlier than December. That being said, we've seen so little of it and haven't heard much in the way of rumors. The lack of information means they're either running a super tight ship or just won't hit 2017.
I believe it. The game got announced for this year, which makes it different from the XBX situation where the game was announced for the next year (announced in 2013 for 2014). The insistence that it is 2017 for all regions makes me feel that the game is far along if they believe they could possibly release it in the west as well in 2017. It must be far along already, and as such I don't see a reason not to believe it will hit this year.
Dark Cloud
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I believe it's coming to the west in 2017. There's nothing that says it's coming or it's not coming in 2017. Nintendo is one of the most tight lipped companies. We can barely get info on a game or barely see it doesn't tell us a timeline for the game, but I'm confident it's coming in 2017. I think they've been working on this game for years.
If Xenoblade 2 launches this year it will be worldwide. Nintendo seem to be confident in a 2017 launch. Several things (such as the music being close to done) seem to indicate the same. I have no reason to think that it will not launch in 2017. I'm so happy E3 is in a few weeks so we won't have to discuss this topic anymore lol.
I will say yes until they say otherwise. No point in worrying eitherway. It seems like they are on track but who knows.
Back to the team saying that Nite do has an amazing lineup for 2017 already, right, they do, but unfortunately its not enough to change perception. Thats the thing, they cannot afford to have any loose ends anymore. There isn't third parties filling any gals right now, so it only behooves Nintendo to over fill the channel. Again, like I said, Nintendo titles tend to be evergreen so they can afford to release 6-8 + games the latter half of this year to fill the shelves and keep up appearances until more 3rd parties show up. Any cracks and the market will turn.
This is similar to what others like Emily Rogers have said. The lineup looks great but don't give it a pass bc compared to previous Nintendo systems it looks tops, it has to be that and more to continue convincing peopel to come on board. The thing that has always hurt Nintendo machines has been large gaps in new/great software. The perception still exists in the market thanks to WiiU and early 3ds. They have to go over even the most optimistic expectations to make that change.
I think that Nintendo understands that now, and it honestly looks like they plan on giving a metric ton of software. Also doesn't hurt that people will still pay full price three months later.
NinjaCoachZ
Member
I doubt that. All of Nintendo's first-party Switch games are day-and-date, worldwide. The system is region free and all of their games are identical regardless of region. There's no reason for them to have developed the game without a global release in mind.
That said I'm putting my money on a slight bump from December to January. Wouldn't mind being proven wrong though.
Dark Cloud
Member
I think Virtual Console is going to change. I don't think it's going to be the VC we've known since the Wii. I think it will be rebranded into a new name and I wouldn't be surprised if it's turned into a monthly paid service. Nintendo is a different company now and Kimishima is a business man who clearly likes to get the most money he can. If he thinks a monthly paid model makes more money, then I can see him pushing for it.
This has changed name to Battle Sports Mekuru. Isn't that game by Over Fence Co?
Okami Haundo
Member
It'll be interesting to see what they do with it! My bets are on having the same sales model but a new implementation. Either way I just want them to show their hand at E3. Playing classic games like Zelda and Earthbound on Switch would be heavenly!
TerryLee81
Member
Any chance for a Tropical Freeze port? Would love that.
Okami Haundo
Member
Not gonna lie, I clicked that link thinking we'd have a pre-E3 Direct announcement or something. Hype is getting to me.
Dark Cloud
Member
Damn. I clicked that and I read it so fast and thought it said a Super Mario Odyssey Direct was coming 😂
I'm so ready to see what they've come up with for VC. I still think whatever they come up with gets announced at E3, then Mother 3 will also come with that announcement.
🤤
WordAssassin
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Who cares if they haven't released yet? You think they're just going to evaporate and never come out, especially when we know at least one of them [Mario] has been done since before the Switch even came out? The statement is that Nintendo has a good first year with the Switch. It's not actually been a year yet, remember? It's been three months. Which means the rest of those games on that list, still have time to come out. And that's assuming Nintendo announces NOTHING new at E3 for 2017. If the Switch hits a full year and those games still haven't come out yet, *then* you can make your argument. As it stands now you're being ridiculous. If you really want to be anal, then the *prospective* first year of Switch releases crushes the Wii U's first year. Is that better?
Secondly what are you even trying to say with the Zelda port comment? It doesn't count as a major Switch release because it's a port? Are people really still clinging to that?
eh i dont know, its been never the case that nintendos first party had one united line of polices regards release dates. I mean you are right ofc., switch had only first party games worldwide on the same day, but switch also has no first party game like xenoblade proportions of localization
me too
dissapointed
Skittzo0413
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I sure hope these are not the "additional details" we were supposed to stay tuned for...
BRSxIgnition
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Dark Cloud
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If we could survive the NX we probably could survive the end of the world.