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Let us calmly discuss the Monster Hunter 4chan rumor about PS4 and Switch

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If true... well, i Just hope they habe their expectations in check for MH5

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I have no way to prove this of course, but I would bet any amount of money that if there were a multiplatform Switch/PS4 Monster Hunter, the Switch version would sell the most in the West by far.
 
Ray Barnholt, ex-1up writer and now a developer, pretty much said the rumor is true on Twitter.

Monster Hunter G came out on PS2 and had a demo for 3, but that ended up on Wii... So, yeah, he is basically saying Switch is not getting 5.
 
Thanks, checked through them they all mainly only state about the Capcom Nintendo partnership with MH but none talk about the Sony stuff or the P3rd rumour you mentioned and also if it's verified or not

Complications of localization. I remember the Capcom forums people were desperate to hear any news at all about a localization to a point they were even hoping Sony would at least step in and bring it over. There was even Operation Cherry Blossom to show there was support for Monster Hunter in the west on Capcom Forums. But nothing ever happened.

http://www.capcom-unity.com/ask_cap...nter-portable-3rd-hd-ver?post_num=6#505539741

http://www.capcom-unity.com/ask_cap...nter-portable-3rd-hd-ver?post_num=9#505552287


Also Monster Hunter Tri was originally planned for the PS3 but got moved to Wii "Due to high development cost of titles for PS3, we have decided to switch the platform to which we release our Monster Hunter 3," Capcom managing corporate officer Katsuhiko Ichii said." https://web.archive.org/web/2008102...rbes.com/feeds/afx/2007/10/10/afx4204151.html


From these two things people came up with rumors that Nintendo made some deal with Capcom for Monster Hunter and money hatted them. They never really did. However, Nintendo often did help them out with things like marketing and such.
 
They've made a few but all of the movies are secondary to the games. They never really made any attempt to tie the games to the movies.

There's been *some* cross-promotion (you can get a free digital copy of The Final Chapter with RE7, IIRC), but they haven't made any great effort to synchronize film and game releases, let alone to make the games resemble the films more (RE6 was very clearly pandering to Western AAA audiences, but not in a way that overtly echoed the film franchise).
 
Ray Barnholt, ex-1up writer and now a developer, pretty much said the rumor is true on Twitter.

Monster Hunter G came out on PS2 and had a demo for 3, but that ended up on Wii... So, yeah, he is basically saying Switch is not getting 5.

That's not what I'm reading.
He's saying that buying XXS is giving money to Capcom for 5, but doesn't guarantee that 5 will be on the same platform. Which is true, but isn't linked to that rumor at all.

edit: that's also a bad jump to conclusions, since 4 was always going to be on an handheld first. People were hoping for 4U to be on WiiU for sure (me included), but it would have been a port if that happened.
I doubt that MonHun 5 will be based around the 3DS...

edit 2: oh MonHun G Wii, not even talking about 3G? Well lol. That's even further away from the rumor we're discussing.
 
Ray Barnholt, ex-1up writer and now a developer, pretty much said the rumor is true on Twitter.

Monster Hunter G came out on PS2 and had a demo for 3, but that ended up on Wii... So, yeah, he is basically saying Switch is not getting 5.

That's not what he's saying, though? Monster Hunter G was also ported to Wii. The tweet specifically mentions the Monster Hunter G that was on Wii.

Also the Monster Hunter 3 Demo you mention was only included with the Wii version. PS2 never had the demo.
 
Monster Hunter G came out on PS2 and had a demo for 3, but that ended up on Wii... So, yeah, he is basically saying Switch is not getting 5.

He references MH G Wii which had the MH Tri demo and was very clearly priming the pump for Tri.

I'm not understanding
 
Ray Barnholt, ex-1up writer and now a developer, pretty much said the rumor is true on Twitter.

Monster Hunter G came out on PS2 and had a demo for 3, but that ended up on Wii... So, yeah, he is basically saying Switch is not getting 5.

Monster Hunter G was ported to Wii in Japan before Tri came out there, so I'm pretty sure he's implying the exact opposite (though whether that's based on inside info or his own conjecture, I can't say).

And there was never any PS2 demo of Tri, as it was announced for PS3 originally. You must be confusing the original release with the Wii port.
 
That's a bad tweet to draw any conclusions from. I mean, it's not like they included a MH4 demo with MH3G.

Also MHG on Wii didn't pump anything. Nobody cared about an old PS2 game.
 
He references MH G Wii which had the MH Tri demo and was very clearly priming the pump for Tri.

I'm not understanding

Yeah, it seemed to be implying the exact opposite. Its a pretty clear case of laying ground work for future releases.

They did it with Wii and they did it with 3DS.
 
I don't think capcom would ever take things that far. At worst it'd be "I skip PS4 MHs and only play the Nintendo ones". They'd both come to the west if this were to happen.
Nintendo seems pleased enough with MH, even if capcom wants more.
I think it would all depend on Nintendo by that point. I don't think they'd be stupid enough to give up $$$ support for core MH in the west because they were "betrayed" (as this rumor suggests) in Japan with the franchise, but if NoJ legitimately feels the way the OP outlines, I could see it souring that financial relationship if they decide to intercede.

This is all assuming any of this rumor is actually true though.
 
It literally came with a demo for Tri. What other purpose for the re-release was there?

People bought FF 0 HD for the game itself, certainly not the FFXV demo.

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I think it would all depend on Nintendo by that point. I don't think they'd be stupid enough to give up $$$ support for core MH in the west because they were "betrayed" (as this rumor suggests) in Japan with the franchise, but if NoJ legitimately feels the way the OP outlines, I could see it souring that financial relationship if they decide to intercede.

This is all assuming any of this rumor is actually true though.

Unrelated, but this one of the main issues I see coming up with DQXI. Nintendo pays for localization and marketing of main DQ games on their supports, while S-E does that themselves for spinoffs on PS support. Would they be ready to do the localization of a mainline game without anything in return again?
 
It literally came with a demo for Tri. What other purpose for the re-release was there?

Again, nobody cared about MHG on Wii so you tell me. It was a weird release whatever their intentions were. Maybe to charge $$ for a demo? I don't even know.
 
I'm just not sure why Sony would pay big bucks for an exclusive MH5?

Making sure they get a version and offer a marketing deal, sure.
 
Unrelated, but this one of the main issues I see coming up with DQXI. Nintendo pays for localization and marketing of main DQ games on their supports, while S-E does that themselves for spinoffs on PS support. Would they be ready to do the localization of a mainline game without anything in return again?
This is another huge mystery. Especially since the script is the same between both versions of the game, if you pay for one script, you're basically paying for both.
 
The rumor claims that they didn't even pay for exclusivity, just to keep it off Switch, so... yeah.

The rumour is bad in certain ways.

Like for one, Sony doesn't look at just one region when they make any deal. PS4's strengths are in its potential to sell software globally, including emerging markets that previously weren't accessible or as big as they are now and that's a big reason why you see some decent PS4 support from Japan.
 
Yeah, I don't really see who this rumor harms even if it does sound like Sony and Capcom being stupid.

People who want a "console" MH tailored to modern "console" sensibilities would get just that.

People who want the franchise as is would also get just that.

Don't see the issue for consumers.
 
Again, nobody cared about MHG on Wii so you tell me. It was a weird release whatever their intentions were. Maybe to charge $$ for a demo? I don't even know.

Didn't it still sell like 250k? It was easy money and got at least some of the audience on to the Wii.
 
Yeah, I don't really see who this rumor harms even if it does sound like Sony and Capcom being stupid.

People who want a "console" MH tailored to modern "console" sensibilities would get just that.

People who want the franchise as is would also get just that.

Don't see the issue for consumers.
The only thing I really see people from that camp wanting is better graphics. I don't know if they want the gameplay to go away just to have better fidelity.
 
The only thing I really see people from that camp wanting is better graphics. I don't know if they want the gameplay to go away just to have better fidelity.

Perhaps. I thought it was also common to complain about the systems, controls, etc. But those could be different people, yeah.
 
Oops sorry for bumping the wrong thread lol

The only thing I really see people from that camp wanting is better graphics. I don't know if they want the gameplay to go away just to have better fidelity.

I don't think it's about existing camps, if they have ambitions of reinventing the game and selling like something like a Far Cry in the West, however realistic or not that is.
 
Perhaps. I thought it was also common to complain about the systems, controls, etc. But those could be different people, yeah.

Given the ergonomics of the 3DS, yeah controls definitely were another thing people complained about, and I think those arguments were totally valid even if I didn't share them. Not too sure about the systems though.
 
Oops sorry for bumping the wrong thread lol

That's OK. I lock for you.

Anyway I don't think the rumor makes sense. Like I definitely believe in tweaking, but I could imagine I would write "teh new one suxxor" if I were unhappy about it leaving the platform (and the whole "senior person upset and leaking" framing of the rumor fits that conceit). I guess we'll see soon, though I imagine making the entire series multiplatform has been the objective for a while and I still don't understand why they can't do that.

I think the segmented world stuff is annoying and no longer really serves a purpose.
 
Ray Barnholt, ex-1up writer and now a developer, pretty much said the rumor is true on Twitter.

Monster Hunter G came out on PS2 and had a demo for 3, but that ended up on Wii... So, yeah, he is basically saying Switch is not getting 5.

This doesn't say what you think this says...

But...why just Switch? I just can't see Sony doing that for such a petty reason.

If Switch gets it then Nintendo probably wins Japan.
 
Anyway I'm excited to see what it looks like. I like Dragon's Dogma put the color palette is not right imo for MH.
 
The rumour is bad in certain ways.

Like for one, Sony doesn't look at just one region when they make any deal. PS4's strengths are in its potential to sell software globally, including emerging markets that previously weren't accessible or as big as they are now and that's a big reason why you see some decent PS4 support from Japan.

Agreed. Plus you'd want the real MH team if you were paying for it.

Also, I think it makes much more sense that it would be Capcom wanting a potential PS4 Monster Hunter to be at least slightly more westernized (even if the details in that rumor might be more exaggerated than Capcom would really be doing) for some more worldwide appeal rather than Sony which is not averse to Japanese titles.

I do think it's entirely possible that, at least in multiplat fashion, Sony is interested in having the next mainline Monster Hunter at least be available on their system this time though. Especially since the number of MH-inspired titles aside from God Eater and Toukiden have shrunk considerably.
 
It reads and sounds like a fake 4chan rumor so that's what I'm going with. I think the most generous interpretation is that the poster's friend had passed along a ton of rumors, gossip, and speculation from a bunch of different sources of varying quality and the MHXX title was something that ended up being legit. The least generous interpretation is that the poster found out about the name and leaked it along with a bunch of BS he made up himself.
 
So, the traditional series would continue, but under a different name? Did Sony simply pay for the name "Monster Hunter 5?" What's the value in that? More importantly, is there really a market for a dumbed-down, "westernized" Monster Hunter? I don't see why either Sony or Capcom would believe this to be the case. Who would be developing it if the regular Monster Hunter team would still be working on the "portable" series? What western development studios do Capcom work with? The current Dead Rising team, perhaps?

This rumor makes no sense to me. If true, it sounds like an expensive mistake.
 
Every time I browse the Media Crate, which is about once or twice a week, I just read about how Sony is getting a thrashing by the 3DS. I'm sure they new they would lose Japan already.

They get thrashed by 3DS because it's got, among other things, Monster Hunter. Pokemon/MonHun/Mario is basically the trifecta. The only big Japanese game 3DS didn't have was Dark Souls. If Switch gets that along with the trifecta, it's gg in Japan.
 
They get thrashed by 3DS because it's got, among other things, Monster Hunter. Pokemon/MonHun/Mario is basically the trifecta. The only big Japanese game 3DS didn't have was Dark Souls. If Switch gets that along with the trifecta, it's gg in Japan.

Animal Crossing.
 
They get thrashed by 3DS because it's got, among other things, Monster Hunter. Pokemon/MonHun/Mario is basically the trifecta. The only big Japanese game 3DS didn't have was Dark Souls. If Switch gets that along with the trifecta, it's gg in Japan.

It's been "gg" in Japan for a long, long time, which is why the wording "desperate for Japan" makes no sense to me.
 
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