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Media Create Sales: Week 20, 2017 (May 15 - May 21)

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cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
The Last One said:
What an awful post. "Take the L" because the guy thinks a Zelda can't reach 1 million sales in Japan?

Please...
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I dont think its as serious as you are implying right now. Taking a L isnt necessarily a mean spirited expression, especially for Sales-GAF regulars ....unless im missing something.

Passose said:
Switch needs to get most Japanese third parties onboard though
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Which japanese 3rdPartys arent on board ? Bamco, SE, Level 5, Atlus, Capcom etc. are on board...hell even Konami published a game lol.
 
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The Last One

Member
cw_sasuke said:
I dont think its as serious as you are implying right now. Taking a L isnt necessarily a mean spirited expression, especially for Sales-GAF regulars ....unless im missing something.
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So now in every wrong prediction in media create threads we can just link to the post and say "take the L"?
 
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casiopao

Member
cw_sasuke said:
Which japanese 3rdPartys arent on board ? Bamco, SE, Level 5, Atlus, Capcom etc. are on board...hell even Konami published a game lol.
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Rather than not on board, i feel the biggest problem is how long will third party finally deliver some goodness there lol.
 
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cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
The Last One said:
So now in every wrong prediction in media create threads we can just link to the post and say "take the L"?
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No ?
Unless noshten does it every MS thread and i somehow missed it. You are overreacting for no reason.

But yeah if you predict something in a public forum...some people might refer to you down the line if you were wrong. That has always been the case, no need to get worked up over it.
casiopao said:
Dont underestimate waifu power lol.
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We will have to wait for the Summer/Bikini Banner...i could see FEH hitting No1. then if they feature favorites like Tharja.
 
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casiopao

Member
Passose said:
well, I actually live in asia also, I just thought a large amount people on Gaf were americans
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Ahhh. No wonder u are always active when i am posting too lol. SEA?

cw_sasuke said:
We will have to wait for the Summer/Bikini Banner...i could see FEH hitting No1. then if they feature favorites like Tharja.
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This girl list is actually quite strong though.

Caeda is famous in japan.
Lyn is the most popular waifu from popularity vote.
Cordelia is ranked 7th from popularity.

It is not like this is a bad list of waifu at all.
 
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TheLegendaryN

Member
I expect ARMS to do decent in its opening week, but with long legs due to the post-release content updates. I guess 70-80k copies at launch and a 50% drop in the second week, so about 110-120k copies sold at the end of the month (June 25).

I usually don't join the Prediction League, but it's fun, so let's do this. (Also, why isn't there a separate thread for these?)

I haven't followed the news about Tekken 7 hype, so I'm kind of following the rest here. As for Seiken Densetsu Collection, it's overpriced af. I think some fans of the series will buy it day 1 but it will fade from the list soon after with a huge drop in its second week.

PREDICTION LEAGUE JUNE 2017

[PS4] Tekken 7 (25 days) - 100k
[NSW] Seiken Densetsu Collection (25 days) - 25k
[NSW] Arms (10 days) - 120k
 
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LordOfLore

Banned
Did SE put out some new PR about DQXI? Just saw a ton of youtube streams for the game dated for the next few weeks pop up on their channel.
 
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Fisico

Member
Passose said:
well, I actually live in asia also, I just thought a large amount people on Gaf were americans
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Random Alexa graph is telling me

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So more than half visitors aren't from America.
Now I guess with members and even more with active members the percentage might be leaning even more towards America but it does give you a rough idea

I'm in Europe and will be in Asia soon lol
 
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Zedark

Member
Seems I am a bit more bullish on ARMS than most. I think it will reach Splatoon levels of success, maybe not quite in Japan, but definitely WW. I predict its first 10 days will go head to head with Splatoon, and subsequently ARMS will show less impressive LEGS than Splatoon did. I think the fact that it is on the Switch rather than the Wii U will offset its potentially lesser appeal enough to bring about a comparable success worldwide.

PREDICTION LEAGUE JUNE 2017

[PS4] Tekken 7 (25 days) - 85k
[NSW] Seiken Densetsu Collection (25 days) - 35k
[NSW] Arms (10 days) - 210k

Bruno MB said:
Why do you change the order of the games for the Prediction League?

Then it is confusing when it comes to compile the data.
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Sorry about that. I didn't even realise I did that, nor can I fathom why I did it. Strange. I think I may have accidentally dragged the ARMS line upwards when writing the post. Edit: I copied TheLegendaryN's format from which I edited the numbers, who apparently changed the order. Seems like that's how this happened.
 
Bruno MB

Bruno MB

Member
Why do you change the order of the games for the Prediction League?

Then it is confusing when it comes to compile the data.

Edit: No problem, thank you for correcting!
 
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DecoReturns

Member
Been reading the last few pages.

Is Tekken really predicted to Bomb? I though it was popular in Japan?
Didn't know it was becoming in irrelevant, then again I never played attention the series so what do I know.

Anyways, I'm really interested to see how ARMS does. Can't really figure that one out, I know it would do well, just not how well
 
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cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
casiopao said:
Rather than not on board, i feel the biggest problem is how long will third party finally deliver some goodness there lol.
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Well okay, thats not what he wrote initially heh.
I dont see how this is the biggest problem considering Switch is selling and Nintendos first party output alone will be enough to maintain strong sales this year + MHXX. I would agree if Switch had a WiiU like year 1 lineup or wasnt already selling so well.

The 3rdParty devs taking their time with their Switch projects is good news, if it means they are taking the system serious and wont just drop shovel-ware on it for quick bucks. We already know its part of Bamcos, SE, KT, Level 5s etc. future output so im not too worried about that.

casiopao said:
This girl list is actually quite strong though.

Caeda is famous in japan.
Lyn is the most popular waifu from popularity vote.
Cordelia is ranked 7th from popularity.

It is not like this is a bad list of waifu at all.
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Sure, i was just commenting on the ability of the game to hit the TopSpot on the store...this lineup wont be able to do this. Need Tharja/Lucina + Summer/Break/Bikini banner+ the units being somewhat useful/strong.
 
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Passose

Banned
casiopao said:
Ahhh. No wonder u are always active when i am posting too lol. SEA?
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Yep,SEA

Fisico said:
Random Alexa graph is telling me

graph-country-gafwruvp.png


So more than half visitors aren't from America.
Now I guess with members and even more with active members the percentage might be leaning even more towards America but it does give you a rough idea

I'm in Europe and will be in Asia soon lol
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but still that a large number of people in Gaf are from America
 
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AdventureRacing

Member
noshten said:
So based on FT article the Switch could be around 20 million by March 2018, how could this be distributed WW?

NA: 8 million
EU and ROTW: 7 million
Japan: 6 million

If Switch sell around 6 million by March 2018 in Japan I think a lot of my expectations about the Switch will come to fruition and a lot of people on these threads where we have debated these different things might have to eat some crow:

- Splatoon 2 being a top 10 selling game in Japan of all time isn't some crazy pie in sky noshtenism™
- Minecraft would surely be a million seller by the end of 2017 and I'm not suffering from some type of fever I honestly expect it to be one of the best performing 3rd party game on the Switch during it's lifetime.
- Zelda will surely be well above 1 million units sold by the end of 2017 so some people might need to take their L
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There is still no confirmation that Nintendo will actually be able to ship that much so I'm taking any such articles with a huge grain of salt. I think you're probably being a little generous with how much Japan is likely to receive in such a situation (but it's really hard to say).

In terms of splatoon 2 sales let's not pretend no one else is predicted big numbers. Plenty of people are suggesting it'll see a MH like breakout and sell as much as 4-5 million. There is still a world of difference between that and 6+ million. I won't say it's impossible but even on the DS that was a number almost impossible to reach for any game.
 
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Passose

Banned
AdventureRacing said:
There is still no confirmation that Nintendo will actually be able to ship that much so I'm taking any such articles with a huge grain of salt. I think you're probably being a little generous with how much Japan is likely to receive in such a situation (but it's really hard to say).

In terms of splatoon 2 sales let's not pretend no one else is predicted big numbers. Plenty of people are suggesting it'll see a MH like breakout and sell as much as 4-5 million. There is still a world of difference between that and 6+ million. I won't say it's impossible but even on the DS that was a number almost impossible to reach for any game.
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if Splatoon 2 actually hit 4-5 million then the ww number should be at 10+ mil
 
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Zedark

Member
AdventureRacing said:
There is still no confirmation that Nintendo will actually be able to ship that much so I'm taking any such articles with a huge grain of salt. I think you're probably being a little generous with how much Japan is likely to receive in such a situation (but it's really hard to say).

In terms of splatoon 2 sales let's not pretend no one else is predicted big numbers. Plenty of people are suggesting it'll see a MH like breakout and sell as much as 4-5 million. There is still a world of difference between that and 6+ million. I won't say it's impossible but even on the DS that was a number almost impossible to reach for any game.
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What games managed to do 6+ million? Maybe the Red/ Blue pokémon games?
 
Eolz

Eolz

Member
DecoReturns said:
Been reading the last few pages.

Is Tekken really predicted to Bomb? I though it was popular in Japan?
Didn't know it was becoming in irrelevant, then again I never played attention the series so what do I know.

Anyways, I'm really interested to see how ARMS does. Can't really figure that one out, I know it would do well, just not how well
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It's more popular than some other fighting games, but it's still part of a genre losing relevancy. It's not as popular as some would like to believe though.
Both T6 and TTT2 were at less than 150k on the same time period I think?
 
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Zedark

Member
Passose said:
japan_best_selling.png

Gold/Silver and the original SMB
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Wow at that pokémon red/blue/green first week! Sold only 1% of its total sales during that week.

For Splatoon 2 to be top 10 of all time it "only" needs to sell 4.2 million. I think it should be able to do those numbers LTD.
 
Eolz

Eolz

Member
Nights of Azure 2 at the same time on Switch too? Awesome!
Sounds like a fall game for the west too, unless they delay it to february 2018 or so.
 
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Passose

Banned
Zedark said:
Wow at that pokémon red/blue/green first week! Sold only 1% of its total sales during that week.

For Splatoon 2 to be top 10 of all time it "only" needs to sell 4.2 million. I think it should be able to do those numbers LTD.
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Chris or Hashi said that even the biggest franchises like Pokemon sold less copies than most people thought when the first game launched
 
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Busaiku

Member
Sandfox said:
Lyn and Cordelia were ranked first and seventh respectively in the heroine poll at launch so people will want them. I'm not saying it's going to rank first or anything, but I think this theme has more potential than the bunny one.
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Lyn was largely flanked up by the US, she isn't as popular in Japan.

The Spring banner had the 2nd most popular female (most popular in Japan), the 4th most popular female (who got even more popular following the game's release), the 4th most popular male (maybe even closer to 1st or 2nd in Japan), and Xander is also pretty popular in Japan.

Cordelia and Caeda are more popular in Japan, still not comparable to Lucina, Chrom, or Camilla, and nobody cares about Charlotte.

The Spring banner had far greater appeal.
 
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Kresnik258

Member
Eolz said:
Nights of Azure 2 at the same time on Switch too? Awesome!
Sounds like a fall game for the west too, unless they delay it to february 2018 or so.
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They announced it was coming west in 2016, lol.

It'd be quite funny if it didn't even make a western 2017 release.

I wonder if the sales will fall fowl of the negative criticism from the first game. Can't expect the Vita port to sell much given what a hack job they did with porting NoA1 and the general response I read among fans for the title in general was "ehh". Blue Reflection & Atelier Firis didn't seem particularly noteworthy among the usual Gust crowd either so they kinda need a hit.
 
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Cerium

Member
Busaiku said:
Literally the next line.
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You're reading it wrong. Lucina was more popular in Japan than the west is what they mean; they make that clear by following it up with Ike being more popular in the west.

Lyn is the most popular regardless of country is not an ambiguous statement.

Before that they talk about how Lyn's popularity was stunning and they'd heard that foreigners rallied behind her "as well."
 
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Busaiku

Member
Cerium said:
You're reading it wrong. Lucina was more popular in Japan than the west is what they mean; they make that clear by following it up with Ike being more popular in the west.

Lyn is the most popular regardless of country is not an ambiguous statement.

Before that they talk about how Lyn's popularity was stunning and they'd heard that foreigners rallied behind her "as well."
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The translation could easily change the context.
"Regardless of country" could mean when not focusing on a specific region.
Can't really make out the stuff in the scans provided.
 
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Cerium

Member
Busaiku said:
The translation could easily change the context.
"Regardless of country" could mean when not focusing on a specific region.
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The full sentence talks about how Lucina is more popular in Japan, and Ike is more popular in the west. The context is right there. You have to twist it pretty badly in order to read it any other way.
 
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Busaiku

Member
Cerium said:
The full sentence talks about how Lucina is more popular in Japan, and Ike is more popular in the west. The context is right there. You have to twist it pretty badly in order to read it any other way.
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The translator posted this, which summarizes their takeaways.
When they released the results, they did not do it by region, but they acknowledge Lucina was more popular in Japan, Ike in the USA, and Lyn worldwide.
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That's how I interpreted it.
 
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hiska-kun

Member
Tsutaya's Ranking Week 21 2017

01./00. [PS4] Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana <RPG> (Nihon Falcom)
02./01. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo)
03./00. [PS4] Guilty Gear Xrd: Rev 2 <FTG> (Arc System Works)
04./00. [NSW] Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers <FTG> (Capcom)
05./02. [3DS] Monster Hunter Double Cross <ACT> (Capcom)
06./03. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild <ADV> (Nintendo)
07./05. [3DS] Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission X <TBL> (Bandai Namco Games)
08./07. [PS4] NieR: Automata <RPG> (Square Enix)
09./06. [3DS] Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia <SLG> (Nintendo)
10./09. [PS4] Dark Souls III: The Fire Fades Edition <RPG> (From Software)
11./04. [PS4] Prey <ADV> (Bethesda)
12./11. [3DS] Pro Baseball Famista Climax <SPT> (Bandai Namco Games)
13./00. [PSV] Romance of the Three Kingdoms 13 with Power-Up Kit <SLG> (Koei Tecmo)
14./13. [PS4] Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Wildlands <ADV> (Ubisoft)
15./14. [PS4] Grand Theft Auto V [New Price Edition] <ACT> (Take-Two Interactive Japan)
16./08. [3DS] Attack on Titan: Escape from Certain Death <ADV> (Koei Tecmo)
17./12. [WIU] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild <ADV> (Nintendo)
18./18. [PS4] Minecraft: PlayStation 4 Edition <ADV> (Sony Computer Entertainment)
19./19. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf - Welcome amiibo <ETC> (Nintendo)
20./16. [NSW] 1-2-Switch <ETC> (Nintendo)
 
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Cerium

Member
Busaiku said:
The translator posted this, which summarizes their takeaways.

That's how I interpreted it.
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That doesn't contradict my interpretation at all. In fact it supports it.

[Lyn was most popular everywhere] however [Lucina was more popular in Japan than the west] and [Ike was more popular in the west than Japan].
 
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Busaiku

Member
Cerium said:
That doesn't contradict my interpretation at all. In fact it supports it.

[Lyn was most popular everywhere] however [Lucina was more popular in Japan than the west] and [Ike was more popular in the west than Japan].
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I read it as Lucina was most popular in Japan, Ike was most popular in US, Lyn was most popular including Europe and so on.
 
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Busaiku

Member
Cerium said:
How does the previous response, talking about how Lyn was supported by foreigners "as well" fit into that reading?
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Lyn being incredibly popular in Japan and overseas caught them off guard, as it is me (in Japan).
Lucina being most popular in Japan would not be a shock.
 
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Cerium

Member
Busaiku said:
Lyn being incredibly popular in Japan and overseas caught them off guard, as it is me (in Japan).
Lucina being most popular in Japan would not be a shock.
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Well we're going to have to agree to disagree on the details, but the point is that Lyn is beloved worldwide.
 
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Arynio

Member
So let's see if I got it right using this thread's common tongue:

Lyn = MH5 for Switch
Lucina = MH5 for 3DS
Ike = MH5 for PS4

Yes?
 
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