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Nintendo Switch paid online coming 2018 ($19.99 a year, Dr Mario w/ online play)

Protome

Member
I bet that they will only give 5 to 10 nes games a month.

Its Nintendo. They dont know how to use online or make businnes online. Microsoft and sony are much more prepared for online gaming and sales.

I'm a Nintendo fan, but this online dreaming has set sail a long time a go. Kyoto is incompetent...

5 to 10 is incredibly optimistic.
 

gogogow

Member
To be fair, PS+ and XBL also have quite a bit more to offer.

If PS+ and XBL offers so much more than they can add one more thing. Pay for online play only. I don't care about the PS+ games. I've been a subscriber for 5 years. I've probably played one or two PS+ games.

About this Nintendo Online service. $20 a year for online play is fine. I don't care about the NES games either. And I don't understand the app. It should've been a native app. Not sure what Nintendo were thinking. Since the app is coming this Summer, it's here to stay......
 

StayDead

Member
SMB3, Balloon Fight, and Dr. Mario.

Really, Nintendo? Those are the three best examples you have to tout as having online? More fucking NES stuff?

How about giving us some N64 and Gamecube games with online? Or hell, even without online would be a start.

This slow trickle of releasing their old library of games was bad enough when their online service was free, but if they're going to charge for it, they need to seriously up their game. The XBox 360 was doing a better job with it's XBLA ten years ago.

It says "games such as" not "these are the games you'll get on launch"
 

Kikorin

Member
I bet that they will only give 5 to 10 nes games a month.

Its Nintendo. They dont know how to use online or make businnes online. Microsoft and sony are much more prepared for online gaming and sales.

I'm a Nintendo fan, but this online dreaming has set sail a long time a go. Kyoto is incompetent...

Lol no way they are giving 5 or 10 "free" NES games for month, more probably 2 games for month.
 

SMattera

Member
If it's a modified version of Mario 3 that somehow allows for co-op (like New Super Mario Bros) that would be pretty great, actually.
 
SMB3, Balloon Fight, and Dr. Mario.

Really, Nintendo? Those are the three best examples you have to tout as having online? More fucking NES stuff?

How about giving us some N64 and Gamecube games with online? Or hell, even without online would be a start.

This slow trickle of releasing their old library of games was bad enough when their online service was free, but if they're going to charge for it, they need to seriously up their game. The XBox 360 was doing a better job with it's XBLA ten years ago.

I mean if you look in this thread there's a lot of fans ok with this so I don't think Nintendo will budge
 

hemo memo

Gold Member
Here's a crazy idea.. How about increase the price and have new games monthly and not playing Ballon Fight and classic titles for the 7252591963533 time.

And what "added online play" mean in old titles? Becuase leaderboard is added online play.
 
There's these things, they're called "software patches". How they work is that they take an existing piece of software and replace existing code and "patch in" a replacement code.

And I can guarantee that their existing games will get such software patches to conform to Nintendo's online services as they're rolled out.

We live in an amazing era, don't we?

And there is zero chance this happens. Being a smug ass won't change that.

What is your strange little thought pattern are you expecting Nintendo to patch in to justify suddenly charging money for? Obviously there will be some system level compatibility with the phone app, but what beyond that is going to be added to Mario kart?
 

Terrell

Member
What would these software patches add though? Just support for the app?

The app that allows matchmaking/friending via Nintendo Account, game invites and game scheduling, etc. But some of what's done in the app still has to route through the Switch to a certain degree to make it function, the app just provides the mechanism for controlling all that, and thus would need a software patch to play nice with it.

As a long-time Nintendo user, I can tell you that those discounts will be laughable. You are better off buying those games at retail. You'll see once the service starts, or you could just look at the sad state of My Nintendo.

I don't know why you'd compare something offered for free to something paid for, especially when My Nintendo barely acknowledges the existence of the Switch at this point in its life cycle.

And retail will always be a better price offering than digital discounts, regardless of the platform.

I'll see what's offered when it's offered, I won't take the pessimist view. I mean, if pessimism won out, we'd be paying $50 for this online service, wouldn't we?

Why wouldn't friend codes survive the entire generation? They've been introduced in 2005 and are here to stay. Why would they suddenly remove them after 12 years?

Nintendo Account is the better forward-thinking solution that they're heavily promoting the utilization of through the entirety of their future online service, perhaps.

We know what the Switch online services will offer (voice chat, game making, and setting play appointments - all via an app; access to a selection of NES games; eShop discounts). We also already know the limitations of the voice chat feature (need for a newer Android or iOS device, separate adapter and more cables needed to have both in-game audio and voice audio on your headset).

We know of what will be on offer in theory and in part. Until it's out, it's quite mercurial. The change in the retro gaming offering speaks to that being the case.

And there is zero chance this happens. Being a smug ass won't change that.

Nintendo won't patch games to include new features that would add more functions to the online play experience* to entice people to pay the $20? I thought we were talking about a corporation here. Did corporations stop trying to entice people to spend their money when I wasn't paying attention?
 

SMattera

Member
Overall, I'm glad Nintendo is charging for online because it means I'll be able to play Switch games online for more than a few years.

I would bet Wii U online goes inactive within 6-8 months, and 3DS at the end of 2018.
 

Haunted

Member
$30 confirmed for Australia. That's a bargain, since psn and xbox is $70 a year.
Considering what's being offered... not sure this is true.


However, if all you want out of these paid services is to play online then yes, Nintendo's is the cheapest. Sony quickly understood that's not enough for many of their players, though, hence the additional offerings with IGC and PS+. Looking at Nintendo's history... it'll be tough to come anywhere near what the others are offering in terms of value.
 

Sendou

Member
Good price and smart move delaying it to 2018.

Ah the old paywall going up just after a load of kids get a Switch at Christmas with Mario Kart, ARMS and/or Splatoon

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I would assume those bundles will include at least some time period of free online.
 

eXistor

Member
Sounds decent enough for the price. Very interested to see what the added online to classic games part is all about, I hope it's more than just leaderboards.
 

cireza

Member
Yeah, bad wording, got me there. I meant great pricing.
My point is that I personally don't find this is great, but if people are happy with it, then no problem.

I sure hope that Nintendo will be making more efforts towards online services with the money they will get from the subscription.
 

FinalAres

Member
Considering it was one game per month before, we should be able to expect more than 6 games per year.
Yeah but the proposition has changed. You rent 12 games or you get to keep X number. X is likely to be fewer. Even if we only got 3 games a year, for $20 I'd be buzzing.
 

jerry5278

Neo Member
In this instance, you can't really look at Nintendo's history for any of this, as this is the first time they have rolled something like this out. I think it is more than fair, 20 bucks a year is a great price. I think people are going to be surprised with the online service. Let's not forget that it's Dena thats handling their online this time. And we all know that Dena has plenty of experience with this sort of thing. So for those of you who are picking this apart, and doing all your nay saying,just wait and see.
 

yoonshik

Member
Overall, I'm glad Nintendo is charging for online because it means I'll be able to play Switch games online for more than a few years.

I would bet Wii U online goes inactive within 6-8 months, and 3DS at the end of 2018.
That's not how it works.
 

Venom.

Member
For God's sake. Microsoft launched Xbox Live in 2002 and Nintendo are still trying to get their act together 16 years later.
 

Easy_D

never left the stone age
The strangest part for me is how crystal clear that added statement was, it's not ambiguous at all. Nintendo, with strong messaging, what on earth changed?

For God's sake. Microsoft launched Xbox Live in 2002 and Nintendo are still trying to get their act together 16 years later.

Wat. Bit early to say when it's not even properly launched wouldn't you say?
 

ty_hot

Member
It isnt clear to me if those games are yours forever (as long as you have a subscription active) (meaning: like PS+ free games) or if you will be able to play a list of games while you are subscribed (with that list changing every now and then) (meaning: like the new Xbox subscrition service)?
 

Kolx

Member
You'd think the delay was to work out the bullshit that is the phone app. NOPE. Still there. At least it's 20$.
 

wrowa

Member
Yeah but the proposition has changed. You rent 12 games or you get to keep X number. X is likely to be fewer. Even if we only got 3 games a year, for $20 I'd be buzzing.

It might be fewer, but I doubt it's half of the initial idea.

It's likely their approach changed due to the overwhelmingly negative feedback they received and you don't improve potential customers' acceptance by making the proposition even worse than before.

In the end, we can do nothing but wait and see.
 

FinalAres

Member
It might be fewer, but I doubt it's half of the initial idea.

It's likely their approach changed due to the overwhelmingly negative feedback they received and you don't improve potential customers' acceptance by making the proposition even worse than before.

In the end, we can do nothing but wait and see.

That would be the case for any other company, but Nintendo doesn't listen to its customers. If this has changed, its likely because they no longer feel like they can do 12 a year.
 

gogogow

Member
No. It's something for a lot of people. Maybe not to me and you, but to a lot of people.

To people who make ends meet, yes, it's means a lot to those people. To people who play videogames, it's not a lot of money. Gaming is a luxery, not a necessity.
 

Hallowed

Member
Would you not rather pay £20 (because face it that's what it'll be in the UK) and access all the games rather than paying £20 and getting like 5 games?

I'd much rather have control of which specific titles I want, and that I can play them whenever I please, regardless of if I have a subscription or not.

I think about the future, too. Like how I can go to any of my old Nintendo consoles and handhelds and play any of my games I own. What will happen when a successor to the Switch arrives? Will they stop the online services for switch somewhere down the line? Will that cut off access to the old games I want to play on Switch?

I'll wait and see how Nintendo handles VC on Switch, but this announcement still has me very cautious.
 

RikuDawn

Member
I don't understand why some of you are demanding to have full access to every single NES, SNES, N64, GC, GB, GBC, and GBA game for $20 a year. I mean it should definitely be better than just a few NES games but some of you are fucking ridiculous.
 

kc44135

Member
It isnt clear to me if those games are yours forever (as long as you have a subscription active) (meaning: like PS+ free games) or if you will be able to play a list of games while you are subscribed (with that list changing every now and then) (meaning: like the new Xbox subscrition service)?

This is the main thing I want to know, along with whether or not we'll have the option to actually buy VC games separate from this service.
 

Aleh

Member
Hey this isn't bad! I am very glad I can purchase a single month, I don't really play online all year long so I can save money.
 

FinalAres

Member
I agree, I can't believe that they're giving us more time to use the service for free and are improving the offerings in the meantime.
It is good from our point of view, but it is a joke that they can't get their full online service up and running in what any sane person would consider a reasonable time.

I don't really value what the full online service is likely to offer, and I would expect that is true of most people who own a Switch at this point, so for me I'm happy. But it definitely doesn't reflect well on Nintendo as a company.
 
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