Ajani was able to solo him.
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Magic: the Gathering |OT12| Hour of Devastation - Hour of Jace getting dunked on
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The gods are from Amonkhet originally, not created by Bolas. It's entirely possible, at some point in he story, they find some Deus Ex Machina that can kill them out in the wastes.
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Ajani outright says that he got lucky. Bolas was busy trying to harness the Conflux and caught by surprise.
that deck type is so bad against sweepers (or decks that don't rely on creatures), though, and there's a lot of good sweepers in standard now
SigmasonicX
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For the record, from the art book spoilers, it isn't Samut in particular that kills (or more likely, seals) the Scorpion God, but all of Hazoret's followers ganging up on him.
Right, but our fearless heroes got fucking annihilated.
Don't know how they're going to make ends meet on that.
Simply Sarah
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Eh, maybe. Bad Overrun just leaves a nasty taste in my mouth, though. Yes, I know 2GGG vs 3GG.
I think it has already been clearly established that, unlike the rest of the team, Ajani isn't a reckless idiot. That probably helps.
Bolas probably has a hate boner for Ajani now. He used the conflux energies against Bolas to win.
The Gatewatch aren't coming back together for a while. Ajani will meet one or two of them (Jace) and learn shit got fucked
I don't see the story article of Jace and co's downfall by the way. The last one is called Hour of Promise and it deals with Kefnet's and Oketra's demise while Gideon stood watching.
can't they all just teleport back to Ravincia and meet up? I suppose they'll be in a "weakened" state and have to do some soul searching before they get back together. Jayce wants to take part in the Vraska's pirate adventure, Lilli is probably back in Dominaria in time for the next set
charlequin
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With the old art tho.
I mean we know Jace is amnesiac/mind-blasted. Probably a couple of the others will also have problems that keep them plane-locked for a while and then the last two we will just see meet up on Ravnica or something.
TheBlackMarvel
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Doesn't Bolas' touch do that? He definitely touches a few of them...
It's an ongoing story, we haven't gotten to that part yet. We know what happens thanks to the cards and the artbook.
Pray tell
Bolas wrecks them, Jace is left catatonic, they all planeswalk away to safety to unknown destination.
Big Icarus
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Red looks amazing in draft for this set. It even has various cards to give it reach to end a game with burn damage if the board stalls out. Black seems weak in this format, a lot of the black commons and uncommon are a little too tied to the cycle/discard synergies without too much actual pay off.
I mean, that still doesn't explain how they got away. From those 5 defeat cards, you can see Bolas in complete control. Shit, Nissa is even wrapped in vines.
They can planeswalk away. There's nothing to explain.
Nah bro nah
Not trying to undermine Ajani (since he's one of my favorite PW both in character/story and card form) but didn't he beat Bolas when he was R/W?
Familienoberhauptvogel
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That's retconned OG Ajani he should be more powerful now.
Panic PWing is a thing, the destination is undefined for those.
So like Strawhats in Sabaody, before the timejump? That's exciting for the story moving forward post Ixalan.
SigmasonicX
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The art books have been pretty off about the details before, so we don't know the particulars of what happens when Bolas defeats the Gatewatch.
Yeah, everything is either overcosted or just plain boring. Even for EDH there isn't much outside the most casual of cards.
Aftermath could have been more aggressive with its effects and why are almost all of them sorcery speed in the graveyard?
Embalm/Eternalize is an interesting concept stapled onto mundane creatures with little upside on etb.
Even the focal character of the set got a shit planeswalker card that basically does nothing.
I don't even think they got the flavor and tone of this great evil coming to wreck havoc(for no apparent reason but that's a whole other issue).
This set just has no lure for modern, EDH, or legacy.
I thought you had to concentrate to pw away. And Gideon, Chandra and Nissa are literally fighting against Bolas' influence. So much for concentration.
A Serious Man
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AKA "That set that had Solemnity in it."
charlequin
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Yes, out of three of these artbooks so far every one of them have been wrong on major story details, up to and including the motivations for characters, the order of events, and which characters die. They're always based on much earlier drafts of the storyline, before the cardsets are done and well before the stories are written for the website.
You have to concentrate to go from A -> B. There's a last-ditch "jump without looking into the Blind Eternities" emergency move that results in (typically) serious injury and also washing up on some random plane you've never been to before.
No. This is literally their defining characteristic. That they can planeswalk.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Yes.
blindrocket
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charlequin
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I don't think it really counts. It's well-established long in advance of this story and it doesn't let them win, it's just a last-ditch way to avoid dying.
It does kind of count as Plot Armor, though, since it's a general-purpose way to keep planeswalker characters alive.
I didn't know it existed personally. Which storyline introduced it?
Infinite Stars
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Ajani beat Bolas because he cast Deflecting Palm(Yes I know the card came after), simple as that after Bolas had tapped out for a lethal blow and had no Mana up.
I'm going to laugh if Jace ends up on Ixalan in the way that Arthur Dent flies in Hitchhiker's Guide: IE he throws himself to Ravnica but misses.
I mean, regardless, I'm expecting for Ajani to just be "I told you so"
I'm going to laugh if Jace ends up on Ixalan in the way that Arthur Dent flies in Hitchhiker's Guide: IE he throws himself to Ravnica but misses.
I mean, regardless, I'm expecting for Ajani to just be "I told you so"
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Oh right or armour is much better said.
Wonder how that explains elspeth though. Staying on Theros was better than dying somewhere random after all.
SigmasonicX
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After the events of Oath of the Gatewatch, they probably assumed he wouldn't be any help.
I think their opinion of Ugin was soured when he asked them to seal the Eldrazi titans instead of kill them.
So I'm sensing a theme here.
Ugin, to Jace: "Seal the Eldrazi Titans, killing their mortal forms is probably a bad idea."
Gatewatch: *Burns the Eldrazi*
Ajani, to Gatewatch: "Yo Bolas is pretty dangerous we should probably come up with a plan, let me go recruit some other powerful planeswalkers to help us."
Gatewatch: *Charges head first to Amonkhet recklessly. Gets rekt*
blindrocket
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Watching the stream God's Beard?
Lantern Control is on right now.
EDIT: Lantern won game one, they said it took 20 minutes, relatively fast.
EDIT 2: They are close to going to time and are still on game two.
EDIT 3: Lantern pulled off the second win with five minutes left on the clock.
Lantern Control is on right now.
EDIT: Lantern won game one, they said it took 20 minutes, relatively fast.
EDIT 2: They are close to going to time and are still on game two.
EDIT 3: Lantern pulled off the second win with five minutes left on the clock.
BACK OFF I'll TAKE YOU ON
HEAD STRONG TO TAKE ON ANYONE
I KNOW THAT YOU ARE WRONG
HEADSTRONG, WE'RE HEADSTRONG
Can you explain how that deck works? I turned on the stream in the last two minutes and the dude on the right had almost his entire deck laid out.
Basically you control what your opponent draws which results in bad topdecks forever.
Infinite Stars
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Lantern is jokingly called Draft Trash+ Thoughtseize, the deck. It works as follows
First few turns, Thoughtseize/Inquistion problematic cards from your opponents while landing cards like Ghoulcaller's Bell.
The lock of the deck comes with Lantern of Insight, which forces each player to reveal the top of their library as a State Based Action, and varying Mill Rocks. You effectively get to a point where Lantern locks you out of playing Magic by making all your draws be lands.
You use Lantern of Insight to know the top card of both player's libraries and use a combination of Ghoulcaller's Bell, Codex Shredder and Pyxis of Pandemonium to control your opponent's draws, eventually milling them. You use Ensnaring Bridge to survive while you do this. The rest of the deck is cards to find and/or recur these artifacts (Ancient Stirrings, Inventor's Fair, Academy Ruins, sometimes Glint Nest Crane), some disruption (Thoughtsieze, Inquisition) and some removal (Abrupt Decay mostly).
Sometimes the deck runs Ghirapur Aether Grid or Pyrite Spellbomb to kill faster than milling.
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