Sadly most consumers don't care. Most consumers aren't forum posting gamers. Anyone that does care likely already knows what platform the footage is recorded on.
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Sony puts PS4 button prompts over Xbox One X footage of Anthem
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Sadly most consumers don't care. Most consumers aren't forum posting gamers. Anyone that does care likely already knows what platform the footage is recorded on.
Certainly interesting and entertaining.
I'm selling everything since even my PC can't run Anthem like the demo.
Colbert
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You clearly missed the part where I pointed out that even PS4 game code recorded from a PC would have been the better option. But hey, why reading a comment entirely ....
Mr. PlayStation
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Playstation youtube has uploaded 4K footage of Anthem (the same video shown at E3)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dujsHioT8zI
At the bottom of the screen you can see the button prompts, however when it appears/disappears, you can see the sneaky edit isn't quite as neat.
You can see the Xbox One button prompts underneath as the HUD fades in.
Naughty Naughty
A good example here when the character jumps out of the water and lands
< and > on the keyboard to move single frames.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dujsHioT8zI&t=3m39s
Mislead me if old.
Was this actually running off Xbox One X hardware while it was shown at the MS presser, no right? It was gameplay demo/trailer edited with xbox buttons, might as well be PC with Xbox One X specs with Xbox button mapping? Or am i getting it wrong?
Family Fry
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That information being what the button prompts will look like
Muffin1611
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Lmao at this thread backfire. OP even linked some old console wars grudge from 2013. Can't get more obvious.
I'm pretty sure it's been confirmed to be running on the X. There are certainly signs that show it's not running on a PC, unless Bioware added CBR to the PC version of their games.
You mean like the battlefield trailers which look the exact same no matter who's platform holders youtube channel you go to? Or call of duty? Or mass effect? Or any game for that matter? Developers/publishers dont have time be capturing and cutting the exact same trailers for every platform just so someone on some forum can sleep a little better knowing the xbox version of battlefront 2 is going to looks a little bit blurrier than the ps4 version. Its pointless. And why is this the straw that broke the camels back? Where was the outrage 5...10...15...30 years ago, becasue it's been going on since gaming began.
Why be outraged now when it's not even close to being released? When it releases and doesn't look this good people will be outraged, like plenty were with The Witcher 3, Watch_Dogs, The Division, BoTW, Mass Effect: A, Uncharted 4 and plenty more this gen.
An official YouTube channel uploading footage from annother platform is so common, you'd have to be outraged at pretty much ever game that shows up on both channels, because either both are PC footage and both are lying or from one of the platforms and one of them is lying.
Consumers will have plenty of time and likely footage to decide what platform they'll play it on.
We don't know. My assumption was that it was PC footage completely. DF did a video on it where they show the tell-tale signs of checker board motion artifacts. So either it was captured on XOX or the PC version does CB rendering.
Reading a few pages of those threads (it was more than one) VS the tone of this thread was awesome.
Would certainly be a different story
exactly
VlaudTheImpaler
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This would actually be an interesting subject to talk about if enough people could set their fanboyism aside.
If this is something that consumers in general really aren't aware of, then consumers are in fact being duped. No matter who does it. This is called false advertisement.
I think being more honest with footage across platforms is something that the industry could strive for and it would be for the better. Even at E3 with footage being shown on PC's with console power targets. I mean, there is a reason "downgrade" is a meme. I realize that console targeted PC footage is not the only reason that downgrades happen but I can't imagine it isn't part of it. Before you say I'm being too harsh, I'd like to say that I do see things starting to change.
I don't think it's a bad thing for consumers to push for more honesty. We know that companies like to play it fast and loose if we let them. I think things are changing for the better little by little because we do throw a stink every now and then. If we didn't, then what reason would they have to change?
If this is something that consumers in general really aren't aware of, then consumers are in fact being duped. No matter who does it. This is called false advertisement.
I think being more honest with footage across platforms is something that the industry could strive for and it would be for the better. Even at E3 with footage being shown on PC's with console power targets. I mean, there is a reason "downgrade" is a meme. I realize that console targeted PC footage is not the only reason that downgrades happen but I can't imagine it isn't part of it. Before you say I'm being too harsh, I'd like to say that I do see things starting to change.
I don't think it's a bad thing for consumers to push for more honesty. We know that companies like to play it fast and loose if we let them. I think things are changing for the better little by little because we do throw a stink every now and then. If we didn't, then what reason would they have to change?
Colbert
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You are right, it is Xbox One X footage. Digital Foundry made their analysis and said it too (2160p CBR).
Baroquemantic
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Lol. Nothing like a fanboy calling out other fanboys.
Posts like this are just as bad.
Yeah it's EA.
onemanasylum
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LOL the irony.
Exactly, and this "PS4" trailer is some false advertising. Hope it's not a sign of things to come.
broncobuster
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Sorry I just don't think so, OP made a jab so it's tit for tat, I didn't generalize an entire fanbase or engage in the fanboy war, I jabbed OP back and I stated facts, there hasn't been a substantial first party offering from Microsoft for the Xbox one since 2016, it's been riding last gen games through BC or the longest time now. There is something of a first party game drought on Xbox one and taking that into account, it could reasonably explain why OP has the time to make threads like these.
OP should learn that you don't throw rocks from a glass house. Simple.
It came years ago. The completly identical trailers both upload kinda gives it away.
Kilau
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You know, OP didn't have a problem with "misleading" stuff in this thread.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=208324248&postcount=615
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=208324248&postcount=615
VlaudTheImpaler
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What outrage are you talking about? lol
Reread the thread and then tell me who is more outraged here about what.
And if you know that he was wrong for defending something that was misleading then... what does that say about you now?
I feel like there is a general approach for parity these days that it kind of becomes irrelevant. So the pc version has better AO and slightly better textures. So the xbonx version is CBR 2160 and the Pro version is CBR1800. I dont think those are discernible enough differences to warrant versions of trailers to be made for every platform a game is appearing on. Becasue generally those difference can only be noticed when you place them side by side and who plays games like that? So if it isn't affecting the consumer why would it matter if the PC or xbonx or PS4pro version of a game is being used to capture footage for all promotional material? And when it comes to PC do you just have footage thats running 3 titans in sli? The minimum spec? The maximum? Maybe all 3? Then theres the ps4 base version, pro, xbone, xbonx, switch maybe? All being made individually for each platform and all for the same 1.5 minute trailer. Doesnt seem practical and honestly, i can't imagine most consumers would care.
I mean, this isn't like the 90's when they tried to advertise games on the psone as having cgi graphics. This is advertsing a game looking marginally better or worse than the platform you own. I honestly couldn't care less tbh lol.
Does hypocrisy come with an expiration date or something? What a strange argument to make. o.0
Kilau
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Oh it did link properly, and i'm not defending this. Just trying to point out something.
What? Lmao, why would you jump out the window like this?
Bruh. Don't.
BRUH. DON'T. Lmao fuck is wrong with y'all? 😂
Wait? Who do you think edits together these third party trailers that go up on Microsoft's, Sony's, and GOG's YouTube pages?
The only thing the owners of these YouTube pages generally do is modify the last few seconds of the video to have their splash end cap animation.
hanspampel
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so this stuff happend in the past and is still happening
isn't that the whole point?
Your argument applies just as well to scenarios showing PS4/X1 base games in the past. That does not mean that publishers and platform holders should shirk their responsibility to be honest in their marketing. Just have some fine print with an asterisk saying its the X1X footage. Just like devs do when showing Pro versions of PS4 games. By your argument they should be ok ditching that approach since ya can rarely see the difference between PS4 and Pro on a 1080p tv, right? But why argue in favor of less honesty/transparency?
You are basically saying it's not a big deal so why bother, right? But...it takes almost no effort whatsoever to improve on this current scenario and remove the misleading elements. Literally just some fine print would be ok. Just because it's not a huge deal overall doesn't mean it is ok. That's a slippery slope.
FallingEdge
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anyone being outraged at any of this would be pathetic
Ricky Ricardo
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So far, we have no reason to believe it wasn't running on Xbox
I'm far more concerned about whoever it was in EA or Bioware who thought that they did a good job of editing the button prompts in. Maybe they'll just be surprised to find that there are people who pay any attention to it in a game that's scheduled to release a year and a half from now.
I'd understand why people had issues if this was something like a launch trailer but being a year and a half from release I'm sure most of us understand that how a game this far away from launch looks will usually change quite a bit before lit's actually released.
EA may not even have the game running in anything close to this sort of state on the PS4 at the moment with Microsoft having the marketing deal with them and this "gameplay" happening on Microsft's E3 stage. It's quite possible that they were only able to create something like this on one platform at this stage, whether it was running on PC, Xbox One or PS4.
I'd understand why people had issues if this was something like a launch trailer but being a year and a half from release I'm sure most of us understand that how a game this far away from launch looks will usually change quite a bit before lit's actually released.
EA may not even have the game running in anything close to this sort of state on the PS4 at the moment with Microsoft having the marketing deal with them and this "gameplay" happening on Microsft's E3 stage. It's quite possible that they were only able to create something like this on one platform at this stage, whether it was running on PC, Xbox One or PS4.
plasmawave
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Are you trolling?
Colbert
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For somebody that doesn't care you wrote a lot of words (just sayin').
But back to the topic, at least it would have been better to show one legit version of the game itself for the platform in question. Even recorded from a PC with similar specs like for example a PS4 Pro. So, in this fashion, it looks just fishy (for those who care).
VlaudTheImpaler
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First off, you are assuming that there aren't any differences that anyone would notice.
Secondly, you are assuming that no one cares about graphics and having the superior version. This is absolutely not true.
Thirdly, There are those that would at least like to see true difference so that they can decide for themselves what is and isn't enough for them to deal with.
Fourthly, These companies, especially these AAA ones are filthy rich and could definitely afford to make multiple versions of trailers. Even if it is costly now, if they made it a common practice, the method would inevitably become streamlined so that it was easier and less expensive to do.
All of this would only benefit consumers. Even if you personally don't care right now, others don't like being lied to when being sold something.
Like I said before, companies really will push the line if they can. It's not bad to express your want for more honesty in these situations. They have more than enough resources to figure something out.
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