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Steam Summer Sale 2017 |OT| The Weather's Hot and the Deals are Not

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think this sale (probably previous ones also but this one in particular because of how the year has been for me gaming wise) has finally solified the idea that at this moment in my life... actually buying games full price day 1 is the way to go.

(5 years Ago Rhaknar is gasping at this)

I had about 39€ in my wallet when this started, and give or take a few more €s from cards during it, that is what I spent. I look at what I bought, and either I havet touched it, or I have no interesting in touching (at least right now)

It's kinda like the humble monthly problem, except there at least I just treat it like another sub (like Netflix or whatever) so its kinda easy to forget, but the same problem applies, I usually never touch any of those monthly games. And they are good games!

Then I look back at this year and what did I play the most? Horizon, Persona 5, Zelda. All bought day 1, all played instantly and for many many hours. Even Toukiden 2 on PC, which I didnt finish, but I did play for like 25 hours. Oh and RE7 on PC, bought day 1 and played/finished imediatly.

Day 1 games you buy (well I buy) because you just gotta play them right that second right? Sale games on the other hand, It's the old "building a library" conundrum, Im buying these sale games to have them, not to play them, or to play them eventually when I feel like it... but what I realise more and more is that moment never actually happens. Looking at a 4k+ library which many of us now have also makes the whole thing redundant, nobody is ever gonna play that shit, much less an old fart like me.

Hell the silliest "day 1 vs sale" moment for me is, I bought Last Guardian earlier this year on sale... still havent touched it. I only bought it cause it was 50% off very fast after release so I was like "oh damn thats cheap I guess", and yet I played those other PS4 games that I bought day 1 imediatly.

So yeah, just wanted to rant / get it off my chest. I'm not trying to dissuade anone from buying shit on sale btw, I remember those first sales fondly, that was hella fun. And I guess back then I did play the games I bought on sale, I dunno.

I attempt to find a balance between buying games Day One and building a sale backlog.

I think at this point there's literally no justification for buying another game, in my case. In any genre I have, across multiple consoles and handhelds, enough games in every genre to saciate every want.

If I can really pinpoint exactly what I want from a game I will often also wait for the next sale to pick it up. That's been working ok, though I could still do better at just randomly buying stuff for no reason other than "on sale and I might want to play it." It's not even FOMO of the game as much as the discount, which is just gross in retrospect.

Quick edit: I will say that I actually end up playing games that I bought on sale more often than Day One or preorders. The latter tend to be impulse "I'm bored" buys. But if instead I take the time to comb my steam library, I'll usually find something I want to play more and have a good time.
 

Megasoum

Banned
I know that XCOM 2 had the reputation of being a complete technical mess on release so I'm happy to be getting a solid 60fps during gameplay with all settings maxed out but man those 30fps capped cutscenes sure are a big bummer... Especially considering that the game was a PC exclusive originally...
 
What's this, someguyinahat? Not reviewing a hidden-object game? Stranger things have happened! Here we go with my impressions for Kathy Rain: A Detective is Born.

The story: You play the titular character, a "bad girl" (She smokes cigarettes! She's committed crimes! She's had an abortion!) second-year journalism student (but apparently age 21, so maybe she took some years off?) who seems to have a good heart and some sense of justice. Her dormmate Eileen, a "good girl" prim-and-proper Christian of unspecified denomination, but with the occasional impish streak, informs Kathy of her estranged grandfather's death and essentially forces her to go to the funeral. Kathy goes back to Conwell Springs, a small-town America Twin Peaks-type place, and finds her estranged grandmother, only to discover that her grandfather had become vegetative under mysterious circumstances several years prior to his death. Kathy's main objective is to figure out what really happened to her grandfather, but there's the subtext of making peace with her family and with her past.

There are bits where it gets weird, and despite the weirdness it's a bit predictable, but on the whole it's a cohesive story. It also keeps the characters in check with the adventure game thing: being a "bad girl" explains and justifies some of the criminal-type acts she does, being a journalism student works with trying to solve the mystery, etc. There's only a bit of anachronism (I really doubt software would be that advanced in 1995,) but it wasn't that big a deal.

The post-credits ending was kinda lame. I kinda hoped that if there are any sequels she'd be able to put the events of the first game behind her, but it looks like no.

The gameplay and puzzles: Not many puzzles at all. There was one poem-based puzzle about 3/4 of the way into the game that was a bit tougher, but you're given hints all the way through it so you could brute force it. The game actually comes close to being a visual novel, with just enough inventory puzzles to classify it as "point-and-click."
They did their homework in terms of point-and-clicks though: when you're given a phone, what's the first thing you attempt in a game? Dial 911. Kathy immediately hangs up and says she's not that childish. You got me, game. Also, apparently I have a sick mind for wanting to use the stun gun on grandma. Sue me.

Oh, almost forgot: there's a tape player in the game, so I decided to screw around with that a bit. While you never used the "record" button, you could play, pause, rewind and fast forward normally with it. Most point-and-clicks would just have you play the whole message automatically. I thought that was a nice touch.

The graphics: It looks good for an AGS game. Not the best I've seen (that probably belongs to Technobabylon,) but competent with lots of good facial-expression sprites. My one major complaint is that the game was set in 1995 (a lot of point-and-clicks have to be set earlier to prevent the problem of just solving everything using a smartphone,) but apart from the dorm room full of 90s movie posters, and a couple of early-looking computer systems, nothing really said "90s" to me. Possibly because of the small-town nothing-ever-changes vibe, but there was very little to differentiate it from any other time period. The Samaritan Paradox LOOKED like the early 1980s, for example, especially in the clothing and decor. Maybe just a piece of advice if there's a sequel: immerse me!

The dialogue and voice acting: The smartest decision the developer made for this game was to hire Dave Gilbert from Wadjet Eye to do the voice direction. The voice acting in this was great. It was believable. The actors sounded like they understood the context of the script. Sweet old lady sounds like an old lady, kid sounds a kid and not like a middle-aged woman trying to sound like a kid, and so on. The second smartest decision was to have a translator AND a proofreader for each language (I assume from Swedish.) I detected zero jank. Very well done.

The length: My Steam profile says 6.2 hours, but there was some jerking around looking to get all the achievements as well as alt-tabbing and doing other stuff, so it might be more like 5 1/2 hours. Still a respectable length for a story that doesn't overstay its welcome.

The verdict: While I would have preferred it more puzzly, Kathy Rain is a great little adventure and a terrific job for a solo developer's first game. I for one would like to see Kathy (and especially Eileen) have some more adventures. If you've got three bucks left over from your Steam sale budget, just plunk them down on this puppy and thank me later.
 
That moment you find out your best fighter in Darkest Dungeon is an abusive asshole.

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MazeHaze

Banned
Just pulled the trigger.

i got:

Amnesia TDD

Ori and the blind forest

Hyper light drifter

Hollow Knight

Untold Stories

Shardlight

Brutal Legend

Ikaruga


For 48 dollars. Not bad at all. I also bought PUBG, because fuck, all of my friends are playing it, even the ones who rarely game on their PC.
 
Grim Dawn, worth it at $12.50? How does it compare to Torchlight 2 for fun and polish?

I'd say it's much better and have more depth than Torchlight 2.

The tone is different though, Grim Dawn is more like Diablo 2 while Torchlight 2 is more cartooney.
 

Mutagenic

Permanent Junior Member
Is Planescape Torment EE worth it for someone who has the original game modded with QoL improvements and added quests/content?
 

Grug

Member
I'd say it's much better and have more depth than Torchlight 2.

The tone is different though, Grim Dawn is more like Diablo 2 while Torchlight 2 is more cartooney.

That's cool, the cartoony style was the only thing from Torchlight that I didn't love.

Getting a post-apocalyptic Dark Tower vibe from the screenshots of Grim Dawn which I dig.

Sold! Thanks.
 

Grief.exe

Member
I can squeeze that in. I was hoping it was short.



I just bought Ori and Dead Cells and think both are great. Is Hollow Knight looks amazing but I feel I will be in Metroidvania overload.

Dead Cells and Ori are very good choices too, come back in the Winter sale for Hollow!

think this sale (probably previous ones also but this one in particular because of how the year has been for me gaming wise) has finally solified the idea that at this moment in my life... actually buying games full price day 1 is the way to go.

(5 years Ago Rhaknar is gasping at this)

I had about 39€ in my wallet when this started, and give or take a few more €s from cards during it, that is what I spent. I look at what I bought, and either I havet touched it, or I have no interesting in touching (at least right now)

It's kinda like the humble monthly problem, except there at least I just treat it like another sub (like Netflix or whatever) so its kinda easy to forget, but the same problem applies, I usually never touch any of those monthly games. And they are good games!

Then I look back at this year and what did I play the most? Horizon, Persona 5, Zelda. All bought day 1, all played instantly and for many many hours. Even Toukiden 2 on PC, which I didnt finish, but I did play for like 25 hours. Oh and RE7 on PC, bought day 1 and played/finished imediatly.

Day 1 games you buy (well I buy) because you just gotta play them right that second right? Sale games on the other hand, It's the old "building a library" conundrum, Im buying these sale games to have them, not to play them, or to play them eventually when I feel like it... but what I realise more and more is that moment never actually happens. Looking at a 4k+ library which many of us now have also makes the whole thing redundant, nobody is ever gonna play that shit, much less an old fart like me.

Hell the silliest "day 1 vs sale" moment for me is, I bought Last Guardian earlier this year on sale... still havent touched it. I only bought it cause it was 50% off very fast after release so I was like "oh damn thats cheap I guess", and yet I played those other PS4 games that I bought day 1 imediatly.

So yeah, just wanted to rant / get it off my chest. I'm not trying to dissuade anone from buying shit on sale btw, I remember those first sales fondly, that was hella fun. And I guess back then I did play the games I bought on sale, I dunno.

I've done this for a few years now, but I basically only buy games during sales periods if I am going to play them right away.
 

Elija2

Member
How accurate are the minimum system requirements for Hollow Knight? I wanna buy the game but my laptop doesn't quite meet the requirements and I'm worried the game will run poorly.
 

Kadin

Member
How accurate are the minimum system requirements for Hollow Knight? I wanna buy the game but my laptop doesn't quite meet the requirements and I'm worried the game will run poorly.
I would just say use the refund option if it doesn't run how you'd like. Hard to pass on the game if it can run decently.
 

jtb

Banned
So... I'm possibly considering Deus Ex: Mankind Divided and/or Dishonored 2.

I just want to check with anyone here how the games run these days. I remember hearing a lot of issues when they released - have any here with issues stopped having those?

I just finished Mankind Divided and it still runs like shit. Something about the game's load screens really stressed my comp; managed to get the game running at a pretty stable 60fps with minor stuttering, but still racked up 10+ CTDs over the course of the game - always when loading a new area.
 

zkylon

zkylewd
what's tales of symphonia like

i'm trying to test buy something on nuuvem and it's fairly cheap

i'm between that and kathy rain (would love thoughts on that too)

I just finished Mankind Divided and it still runs like shit. Something about the game's load screens really stressed my comp; managed to get the game running at a pretty stable 60fps with minor stuttering, but still racked up 10+ CTDs over the course of the game - always when loading a new area.
i didn't get the crashes but it does run pretty crap

last time i played it tho, dishonored 2 was MUCH worse

i could get 60 fps on mankind divided, even if it wasn't stable

dishonored 2 was like a real shaky 30 and that game does not play great at 30
 
what's tales of symphonia like

i'm trying to test buy something on nuuvem and it's fairly cheap

i'm between that and kathy rain (would love thoughts on that too)

It's like one of the best Tales of games ever (it's my 2nd favorite). Not that it's a hard thing to achieve though, considering the franchise's overall quality. Still, I highly recommend it if you're into JRPG and its usual tropes. At least the combat is good.

I want to buy one "big" game this sale: Prey or Nier: Automata?

If I may give you a recommendation..
 

Grug

Member
Sorry to ask a question that has no doubt already been asked, but this thread has become cumbersome to navigate.

I have every sticker and have added them to the correct page (there is a tick above each one).

What happens now? Do I get anything? The FAQ is confusing.
 

Wag

Member
Since nobody answered this before I'll ask again:

How does Baldur's Gate Enhanced Edition play @ 4k? Does it play at high resolutions at all? BG2 EE seems to be ok @ 4k widescreen.
 

sadblob

Member
Sorry to ask a question that has no doubt already been asked, but this thread has become cumbersome to navigate.

I have every sticker and have added them to the correct page (there is a tick above each one).

What happens now? Do I get anything? The FAQ is confusing.

You get a badge and IIRC you can display the pages on your profile
 

jtb

Banned
i didn't get the crashes but it does run pretty crap

last time i played it tho, dishonored 2 was MUCH worse

i could get 60 fps on mankind divided, even if it wasn't stable

dishonored 2 was like a real shaky 30 and that game does not play great at 30

Well, I just picked up DH2 to wash the bad taste of Mankind Divided out of my mouth so...

Lovely.
 

Grug

Member
Since nobody answered this before I'll ask again:

How does Baldur's Gate Enhanced Edition play @ 4k? Does it play at high resolutions at all? BG2 EE seems to be ok @ 4k widescreen.

I can't speak for 4k but the character models and backgrounds looked very dated and blown up on the ipad version, so I could imagine it looked even moreso on 4k.

Definitely a modest remaster rather than a remake.
 
I want to buy one "big" game this sale: Prey or Nier: Automata?
Having played both, I find Prey better. They even have some similar themes at play, but I found Prey executing on them more proficiently.

Prey is just the game that I can recommend without caveats surrounding it. It's well done all around and something I found to be a standout title that will resonate with me for years. I loved its atmosphere, its level of player freedom, the music, the presentation, the world building, the characters, it's just something I came out of really glowing.

Automata on the otherhand, I still enjoyed quite a bit -- but it's quirky. It's rough around the edges. It has things that can turn you off if you're not invested into wanting to get all you can out of it. The progression structure is atypical, the combat is flashy but mostly an afterthought, the environments are fairly plain, and things can get pretty repetitive. Story-wise it also gets pretty anime, take that as you will.
 

Vee_One

Member
Looking for some game recommendations before the end of the sale. Chasing some controller, "arcade" style games. Been playing Nex Machina, Super Meat Boy etc. Not interested in any story epic games (witcher etc.). Just picked up N++, been eyeing off Dead Cells and Hyper Light Drifter
 

gabbo

Member
Thinking I'll keep the sale to just one purchase, unless suddenly Life is Strange 2-5 gets even more discounted by act of Gaben
 

Vibranium

Banned
Maybe someday Contradiction will go on sale. I feel like the developers have forgotten about it.

Well, I'll play Indy and the Fate of Atlantis sooner that that I guess. Looking forward to the new Steam thread.
 
Oh happy day! My refund request for Shadow Warrior 2 came through... in just 1 day! (Dodged a bullet there.)

Immediately bought House in Fata Morgana and Kingdom Rush Frontiers. Good deal!
 

Exuro

Member
Looking for some game recommendations before the end of the sale. Chasing some controller, "arcade" style games. Been playing Nex Machina, Super Meat Boy etc. Not interested in any story epic games (witcher etc.). Just picked up N++, been eyeing off Dead Cells and Hyper Light Drifter
I grabbed Dead Cells earlier today and it's legit. Put in about 3 hours and didn't want to stop.
 

Megasoum

Banned
My haul so far:

XCOM 2
SPACEPLAN
Hollow Knight
Pillars of Eternity - The White March Expansion Pass
Baldur's Gate 2 Enhanced Edition Steam Store and Retail Key
Dead Cells
STAR WARS - Galactic Battlegrounds Saga
Hollow Knight (I refunded it and then re-bought it lol)
Max Payne 3 (ROW)
Pillars of Eternity - Hero Edition
Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense Collection
Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
Europa Universalis IV: Evangelical Union Unit Pack
Europa Universalis IV: Catholic League Unit Pack

And even after all that... I still feel the urge to buy something else before the end of the sale lol... There's nothing obvious I want but I'm still itching for another purchase lol

I think I have a sickness....

The good kind!
 
Final purchase for the sale, need an opinion. Half-Life complete bundle and Hollow Knight, or HL Bundle and Hyper Light Drifter? Either way, I hope all these can run on my ThinkPad, I won't have a desktop until after the new year. :<
 
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