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Ex BioShock devs announce FPS roguelite City Of Brass - Steam 2017, Consoles 2018
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Spartancarver
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What is "Roguelite"?
Is this the new Soulsborne Metroidvania?
Is this the new Soulsborne Metroidvania?
Randomly generated levels and permadeath
Same here. I was excited when I saw the thread title but lost all interest when I saw it was rogue like.
This.
Yup - same here. Such a shame.
This is definitely on my radar, now. Cool to see more non-traditional settings. Though, I must admit, Bioshock devs abandoning handcrafted level design for their first outing is a tad disappointing.
Also, like I posted on the trailer comments on YouTube, when did the word "announcement" drop out of the English lexicon?
Also, like I posted on the trailer comments on YouTube, when did the word "announcement" drop out of the English lexicon?
Oversaturation.
Nothing inherently. Its just that those elements are being shoehorned in to everything and there are a lot of people who would prefer a hand crafted experience wih stronger story elements and not so reliant on the dying/losing your shit/starting over type of base that rogue entails.
GreatestHits
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That is badass. Moving forward into gens now and beyond, we should start seeing devs develop more procedural and dynamic game design frameworks, such as the roguelike. To see competent AAA quality developers say they are going to flourish out a game in this genre is very exciting.
Instead of arrogantly acting like I know exactly how this experience is going to suck, on the contrary I'm very excited to see how they progress the genre. I'll be watching this one.
Roguelikes are one of those things gaf hates because a lot of indie devs rely heavily on it's design aspects without making it very exciting. And also because hating on new ideas we're all curious about makes you seem edgy and knowledgeable (it doesn't)
Instead of arrogantly acting like I know exactly how this experience is going to suck, on the contrary I'm very excited to see how they progress the genre. I'll be watching this one.
Roguelikes are one of those things gaf hates because a lot of indie devs rely heavily on it's design aspects without making it very exciting. And also because hating on new ideas we're all curious about makes you seem edgy and knowledgeable (it doesn't)
TheSpaceBetween
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Anything procedurally generated immediately kills my interest.
Maintenance
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Is there a popular game that does it? I don't know why I'm having a hard time knowing exactly what it is.
I can dig this case.
I like the basic idea that Rogue brought into games, making things more systemic and iterative, but I find it sad that most developers seem to stop thinking for themselves when they are handed a basic template. Unwilling or unable to build on it and change stuff.
I generalize, of course, there are great roguelites like Crypt of the Necrodancer that do make the concept its own. Just too few out there.
This too. Proc gen is great for tedious development tasks like foliage generation, but making it generate core parts of the game is blegh.
Spartancarver
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SunBroDave
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The animations in that cinematic looked very rough for a game that's supposedly out this fall.
Spartancarver
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Actually I'm just not into permadeath and procedurally generated levels.
No worries though, you're still definitely as enlightened as you'd like to think you are ^_^
Yeah no idea what being ex-Bioshock serves this beyond maybe art direction? Is it even some of those team members?
Magic Mushroom
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But Spelunky is one of the best games ever.
Brerlappin
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procedurally generated
roguelite
FPS
nah im good thanks
roguelite
FPS
nah im good thanks
Gameplay trailer (should be linked in the OP imo)
Looks very pre-alpha but I'm digging the Dark Messiah influence
Looks very pre-alpha but I'm digging the Dark Messiah influence
Phife Dawg
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Damn, got excited for a minute there.
Not everyone enjoys the grind and procedurally generated levels.
Booker.DeWitt
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such a waste of human resources
There are definitely exceptions, sorry. The Binding of Isaac, Enter the Gungeon, and Spelunky are all excellent proc gen games.
GreatestHits
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That's fine, you're still judging a game you know nothing about except by genre alone. My point is to not be into an entire genre is a bit ignorant to me. But if you don't like permadeah, that's fine, we don't need everyone who dislikes certain mechanics filling up reply slots with that same opinion over and over when they should know by the title that this doesn't interest them
It's ok story gamers, not every game has to be tailor-made for you
GuitarAtomik
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More speficially the "lite" part of "roguelite" means there's some type of progression, usually in equipment or stats or being able to skip further in to the game on a fresh run. Dead Cells and Rogue Legacy are roguelites for example. Straight up rogueLIKES don't have any progression between deaths.
I'll look up the game to see what it is.
MarineMountie
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Seeing how Binding of Isaac is my most played game this gen, I can't wait for this one. Roguelike is a great genre that needs more attention. If done right, of course.
More_Badass
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Roguelite is used for games that are influenced by roguelikes and share some of their elements but aren't actually roguelikes
It's basically the roguelike version of "RPG elements"
Bedameister
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Pretty bummed about this.
Pretty bummed about this.