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Capcom's difficult position

MrCarter

Member
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=244010556&postcount=262

Relax man. You've taken everything as a massive offense and attacked others because they disagree with your assessment.

Someone is getting insecure by the minute and what I said in that post made logical sense, it's just that individual didn't have the ability to form words for a rebuttal so responding via a meme. Don't worry though I'm sure if you think hard about your little community award (if that was even real) then you'll feel better.
 

cordy

Banned
What are the odds of Sony buying Capcom in the future? Just wondering. They seem to have a great relationship lately, and seems most of their fans/sales are on PlayStation.
They need to. Somebody definitely needs to grab the SF IP. I'd either give it to Sony or Nintendo or hell here's one, Bandai Namco. They can put it in arcades again and help it out financially and even give us some dope characters. V has a ton of lame characters. Either would do great with the franchise unlike Capcom. As for others such as Megaman and DMC, Nintendo gets MM and Sony can grab DMC. Nobody would make an amazing MM game like Nintendo would. As for DMC it just feels like Sony could do well with it.
 

New002

Member
It took a month to fix.



It's not just that. When you start waving you d*ck around and say stuff like "I've been in the community longer than you've been alive" and patronising by stating what happens in the community, even though I see and follow what actually happens everyday, is a very childish and annoying thing to say.

Not sure what the problem is. Someone tried to discredit the dude's opinion by making assumptions about him and so he provided some background info to dispute that. I don't blame him for being a little on edge about it either. It ain't fun when people make assumptions about you.

Given that he does seem to be involved with the FGC in a more direct fashion than maybe some of us, I don't see why he wouldn't have some additional insight into what some players are saying behind the scenes, both positive and negative.

Man, I dunno what it is about this game but it seems to bring out the worst in some people on both sides of the love it or hate it train -_-
 

MrCarter

Member
They need to. Somebody definitely needs to grab the SF IP. I'd either give it to Sony or Nintendo or hell here's one, Bandai Namco. They can put it in arcades again and help it out financially and even give us some dope characters. V has a ton of lame characters. Either would do great with the franchise unlike Capcom. As for others such as Megaman and DMC, Nintendo gets MM and Sony can grab DMC.

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They couldn't even get Tekken at launch right let alone handle an IP like SF.
 
What is their value? What IP do you think Sony is going to just swoop in a buy?

Nintendo may want Monster Hunter and some others and may be willing to pay for it if Capcom fails and the IP was up for auction. It may be a better time to strike now before potentially getting in a bidding war with Nintendo.
No need to fear Nintendo, just because they are currently on an upswing they are STILL Nintendo and do what they do. They would only want Megaman anyway the other stuff Capcom make don't fit with Nintendo.
 
No it didn't. It's a low budget jump scare FPS game. It's failing all sales targets that 5 and 6 hit easily.
So so wrong and edgy. If this is your true opinion of the game, all it tells me is that you didn't play it. 7 definetly had love and care put into it.
 

Neoxon

Junior Member
They need to. Somebody definitely needs to grab the SF IP. I'd either give it to Sony or Nintendo or hell here's one, Bandai Namco. They can put it in arcades again and help it out financially and even give us some dope characters. V has a ton of lame characters. Either would do great with the franchise unlike Capcom. As for others such as Megaman and DMC, Nintendo gets MM and Sony can grab DMC.
I can understand you not being behind some of the new characters (like Abigail), but aside from the absence of Sagat & Sakura (rumored to be on the way for S3), Capcom did a pretty good job of balancing old favorites (Cammy, Bison, Guile, Balrog, etc.) with characters we haven't seen in a while (Urien, Karin, Alex) in SFV's roster.
 

Village

Member
They need to. Somebody definitely needs to grab the SF IP. I'd either give it to Sony or Nintendo or hell here's one, Bandai Namco. They can put it in arcades again and help it out financially and even give us some dope characters. V has a ton of lame characters. Either would do great with the franchise unlike Capcom. As for others such as Megaman and DMC, Nintendo gets MM and Sony can grab DMC. Nobody would make an amazing MM game like Nintendo would. As for DMC it just feels like Sony could do well with it.

Please stop
 

BitStyle

Unconfirmed Member
Haven't really been interested in Capcom since they killed off Mega Man. RE5, 6, and 7 don't seem to have hit that high mark that RE4 made. Still getting Mega Man Legacy Collection 2, and hoping for a Mega Man X Legacy Collection.

I would love if they could consolidate the Battle Network series into a collection. Been wanting to revisit those games, and it would be quite convenient to have them all in one package.
 

cordy

Banned
I can understand you not being behind some of the new characters (like Abigail), but aside from the absence of Sagat & Sakura (rumored to be on the way for S3), Capcom did a pretty good job of balancing old favorites (Cammy, Bison, Guile, Balrog, etc.) with characters we haven't seen in a while (Urien, Karin, Alex) in SFV's roster.

I'm talking about new characters starting with V. Only classic character I've got a problem with is Akuma but as for new characters? Nah I don't rock with em. The classics I've got no problem with them.
Please stop
You dislike my opinion? You can dislike it. Why are you so mad lmao?

You SFV defenders are giving actual lovers of the series a bad look. You need to relax when people give their opinions on the game, shit looks weak.
 
As an old timer who played all the SF games, I do not understand SFV apoligists at all.
why are you guys defending this game? What was the Kool-Aid spiked with anyway?

you'll okay in 2016-17 to have a fighting game with less content than a 16-bit version from 25 years ago
 

MrCarter

Member
He does that all the time. Bunch of underhanded shots at other fighting games for some reason, his whole post history is just street fighter defense.

Like what you like and all but man that must be tiring.

"Underhanded". Okay. I guarantee if I wanted to say something about other fighters I would say it out right, I don't care. I actually give credit where credit is due but we can't deny there is a cesspool of SF/Capcom bandwagon hate that exacerbate these threads by random flyby shitposting.
 

Neoxon

Junior Member
As an old timer who played all the SF games, I do not understand SFV apoligists at all.
why are you guys defending this game? What was the Kool-Aid spiked with anyway?

you'll okay in 2016-17 to have a fighting game have less content than a 16-bit version of SF2, SF2T or SSF2?
You can check my previous posts, I don't discredit its various other issues. Though it having less content than the 16-bit versions of SFII is a bit of an over-exaggeration.
 
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SEGA have problems of their own. Their AAA titles like Alien: Isolation underperformed, Sonic hasn't sold well for years, and PC ports of their games on Steam are not doing that great.




What ? SEGA latest PC ports performed over expectations. And their PC still sell really well.
 

kikiribu

Member
As an old timer who played all the SF games, I do not understand SFV apoligists at all.
why are you guys defending this game? What was the Kool-Aid spiked with anyway?
I'm more curious why you feel you need to call out people who like the game just because you don't. Who are you? Just a forum poster like everyone else.
 

RockmanBN

Member
Really only buy Capcoms Mega Man and MVC games. MVCI looks very unpolished and Mega Man hasn't had an original game since March of 2010. Hope the Switches popularity ignites interest for another Battle Network game.
 
I'm more curious why you feel you need to call out people who like the game just because you don't. Who are you? Just a forum poster like everyone else.

I get the feeling that the apologists are just defending thier serious Esports scene with thier poster child that is SFV and being completely tone deaf for the people that just like to play for enjoyment the way every previous game has allowed them to do. Bottom line is there are less than 2 million of those guys globally and that's a confirmed fact from Capcom.
 

JayEH

Junior Member
I get the feeling that the apologists are just defending thier serious Esports scene with thier poster child that is SFV and being completely tone deaf for the people that just like to play for enjoyment the way every previous game has allowed them to do. Bottom line is there are less than 2 million of those guys globally and that's a confirmed fact from Capcom.

Some people just like the game nothing to do with esports.
 
I get the feeling that the apologists are just defending thier serious Esports scene with thier poster child that is SFV and being completely tone deaf for the people that just like to play for enjoyment the way every previous game has allowed them to do. Bottom line is there are less than 2 million of those guys globally and that's a confirmed fact from Capcom.

Most fighting games is Esports, except anime fighters.
 
See them repeat those same mistakes with MH:W.

Spiting your established fan bases in search of that great white whale is not how you expand an audience. You cater to as many of them as much as possible, then make sure you try to serve an undeserved audience.
 
Capcom's going to sell oodles of Monster Hunter Worlds and RE2makes, they just need to capitalize on Mega Man's future popularity with that Cartoon Network cartoon.

Some people just like the game nothing to do with esports.

why would anyone willingly 'like' Trash Fighter V?
 

Amerzel

Neo Member
I tried to pick up SFV at Toys R Us today and they were out. When the sales associate looked it up on the computer she said it was discontinued. Thought that was strange. I checked target online and all the stores around me show out of stock. Guess I'll have to go to GameStop. I'd prefer the digital version but that one is still $40 and the physical copy is only $20.
 

daman824

Member
Didn't Capcom have malware in one of their Street Fighter 5 patches? It doesn't get much worse than that.

Like sure, as a game SFV is pretty good. But Capcom is dropping the ball at almost every opportunity
 

cordy

Banned
On the real,

The SFV defenders heavily defending the game give a bad look to actual players of SFV who have reasonable opinions. If someone likes the game, someone can like the game but don't ignore the problems let alone don't go taking shots at other games because you're bitter about the game not doing so well in the eyes of others. Dudes are literally mad that other fighters are getting a great reception because theirs still hasn't made their initial sales target. I've seen some people's positive opinions of SFV and I rock with them but at the same time you know how a few bad people give others a bad name. When you have dudes responding to others comments about the game and getting defensive it looks like some

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shit.

It's like the people who say "What you don't like that music? Well fuck (insert song the other people like)" even though it's opinion. Shit's probably one of the lamest things seen these past few years. At the end of the day people have opinions, if people can't take others disliking what they like then shit maybe they need to listen to Stan and realize what the issue was with him.
 
What are the odds of Sony buying Capcom in the future? Just wondering. They seem to have a great relationship lately, and seems most of their fans/sales are on PlayStation.

Flashbacks of the Sony/Square partnership in the early 00's. Another developer who drank the Sony kool aid hard and got setup for failure.
 
On the real,

The SFV defenders heavily defending the game give a bad look to actual players of SFV who have reasonable opinions. If someone likes the game, someone can like the game but don't ignore the problems let alone don't go taking shots at other games because you're bitter about the game not doing so well in the eyes of others. Dudes are literally mad that other fighters are getting a great reception because theirs still hasn't made their initial sales target. I've seen some people's positive opinions of SFV and I rock with them but at the same time you know how a few bad people give others a bad name. When you have dudes responding to others comments about the game and getting defensive it looks like some

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shit.

It's like the people who say "What you don't like that music? Well fuck (insert song the other people likes)" even though it's opinion. Shit's probably one of the lamest things seen these past few years. At the end of the day people have opinions, if people can't take others disliking wha tthye like then shit maybe they need to listen to Stan and realize what the issue was with him.

the saddest part is that I was a Street Fighter lifer; even with my struggles with the SF4 series, I still find some enjoyment out of them.

But SFV, dunno how t describe the feeling but it felt like after 30 years of loyatly, I then get kicked in the balls by Capcom, real hard. it hurts. SFV hurts
 

Kyoufu

Member
Flashbacks of the Sony/Square partnership in the early 00's. Another developer who drank the Sony kool aid hard and got setup for failure.

The vast majority of Square's success came from Sony platforms and they're doing very well for themselves two decades later, so I'm not sure what you're talking about here. lol
 

KyleCross

Member
Just make Resident Evil 8 a third-person action shooter again, Capcom. We, the majority, will be there to buy it like we were the last couple times.
 
It's like the people who say "What you don't like that music? Well fuck (insert song the other people like)" even though it's opinion. Shit's probably one of the lamest things seen these past few years. At the end of the day people have opinions, if people can't take others disliking what they like then shit maybe they need to listen to Stan and realize what the issue was with him.

This right here is one of the lamest things that happens so often in so many recent SFV/MVC Infinite threads. The second someone says they don't like something about the game, people go "Oh but what about this thing in some totally different/older game?" It's complete whataboutism.
 
I tried to pick up SFV at Toys R Us today and they were out. When the sales associate looked it up on the computer she said it was discontinued. Thought that was strange. I checked target online and all the stores around me show out of stock. Guess I'll have to go to GameStop. I'd prefer the digital version but that one is still $40 and the physical copy is only $20.

That's becuse the updated version that includes Arcade mode is coming. Just means Capcom have cleared the channel of stock in preparation. Hold the line as that will probably drop in September.
 

neohwa

Junior Member
Capcom is not the same as they were 10 years ago. Most of their best talents left(Mikami, Kamiya, etc) long time ago should have clued you in. They haven't left the core gaming industry because they don't have fitness clubs or pachinko or mobile to fall back on.
 
I think if they were going to take long with Panta Rhei for Deep Down, they should've scrapped it and used the engine for Monster Hunter World.

Sad to say, but despite their library of titles, even if they were to bring back, say Onimusha or Maximo, would they sell? Didn't they try to bring back Darkstalkers as a re release about a couple of years ago, but didn't sell well?

The biggest offender to me is Dead Rising 4. Graphically, it was a huge step down, among other things; CV (Capcom Vancouver) should have made a new IP, instead of 4 and being known as "that Dead Rising developer/studio"
 
That's becuse the updated version that includes Arcade mode is coming. Just means Capcom have cleared the channel of stock in preparation. Hold the line as that will probably drop in September.

is this really happening? or are they just saying that like they have for the past year and half?
 

Neoxon

Junior Member
That's becuse the updated version that includes Arcade mode is coming. Just means Capcom have cleared the channel of stock in preparation. Hold the line as that will probably drop in September.
I wouldn't be too sure of September. Not only is there MvCI dropping that month, but we'd still be in the middle of CPT season. Assuming that said re-release would coincide with a huge update for SFV (if either one exists), I wouldn't expect it until after Capcom Cup in December. It'd be unwise to drop a massive balancing shake-up right in the middle of a competitive season (even Season 2.5 didn't rock the boat that much).

is this really happening? or are they just saying that like they have for the past year and half?
It was datamined a while back, if I recall.
 

JayEH

Junior Member
SFV fans wouldn't be in this position if Capcom just made a good product at launch. This thread is just proving the article's point lol.


is this really happening? or are they just saying that like they have for the past year and half?

Nobody knows. There's rumblings but nothing concrete.
 

Servbot24

Banned
I think we can all agree that Mega Man Legends 3 is the answer to all of Capcom's woes.

They can't use the previous demo material though. That looked bad so they'll need to start fresh.
 
is this really happening? or are they just saying that like they have for the past year and half?

Rumours recently that make commercial sense, once EVO is out the way. I expected Arcade mode just a couple of months after launch and we got a bloated story mode instead. I'm farming FP in Anticipation of that arcade mode.
 

jett

D-Member
I tried to pick up SFV at Toys R Us today and they were out. When the sales associate looked it up on the computer she said it was discontinued. Thought that was strange. I checked target online and all the stores around me show out of stock. Guess I'll have to go to GameStop. I'd prefer the digital version but that one is still $40 and the physical copy is only $20.

That's actually interesting. Could be a sign a new SKU is coming.
 

cordy

Banned
the saddest part is that I was a Street Fighter lifer; even with my struggles with the SF4 series, I still find some enjoyment out of them.

But SFV, dunno how t describe the feeling but it felt like after 30 years of loyatly, I then get kicked in the balls by Capcom, real hard. it hurts. SFV hurts

Yep. I grew up with 2Turbo, A2G, A3, EX+A, I've been playing since the 2 series and that stopped with V. A lot of these extremists think that people haven't been with the series but the reality is most people vocal against V have been with a series for a long period. It's just lame to try to get onto them for their opinions when you've got your own.

SFV fans and SFV stans are different and at this point I've stopped responding to SFV stans. If you've got a SFV avy responding to a negative post towards the game, it's no different than Stan writing to Em looking like him.
This right here is one of the lamest things that happens so often in so many recent SFV/MVC Infinite threads. The second someone says they don't like something about the game, people go "Oh but what about this thing in some totally different/older game?" It's complete whataboutism.

Yep.

Nobody's believing you say that Em's the greatest rapper when you're looking like Stan. Shit's weak.
 
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