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Sony X800D well - reviewed, 4k+HDR TV with low input lag
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You like it? I'm close to getting one. Do you have a Pro?
Toe-Knee
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I do have a Pro.
I do really like the TV the only advice I would give is to lower the black level from 50 to 35-40 depending how bright your room is.
Hdr works amazingly and they recently just added hlg hdr in the most recent update.
The only negative I would say is that the native YouTube app doesn't support hdr yet.
TheBoss1
Member
Not the same TV at all even with it being the successor in name.
The X800E has an IPS panel which gives you wider viewing angles but terrible contrast mainly because of terrible blacks. But since the picture quality isn't all that great in the first place then the wide viewing angles doesn't really matter in the end.
The X800D has a VA panel which gives you way better contrast but you sacrifice viewing angles for superior picture quality. If you can find this TV, return the one you have and get this instead.
Sounds good. I'll write that black level advice down, thanks.
Toe-Knee
Member
Awesome. Let me know what you think if you get it.
Is it the 49" one? That's the one I have.
TheBoss1
Member
Don't. I did this thinking it helped but you will lose a ton of near black details because your blacks will be crushed. If you want to help with black levels without crushing or washing them out, raise or lower gamma setting.
Yep. I'll be upgrading from 42" Sony tv.
Toe-Knee
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denpanosekai
Member
Yup same here x900e 55".
Only the 43 has a VA panel for x800d. If you use a backlight on the back of the 49 if you like the whole pitch dark room thing it's fine. In a room with lights on an IPS panel is fine.
TheBoss1
Member
My message still stands. It will make the blacks appear dark but you will essentially lose near black details by lowering it that much.
Yeah I forgot to clarify that only the 43" X800D is a VA panel. I'd still get the X800D instead of the X800E.
youre losing black detail by lowing the black level.
the default seting doesnt add or subtract any black. thats how it should be
you think that youre getting a washed out display in hdr because the brightness ramps to max (as it should do)
so you compensate by lowering black and thus defeat any benefits from hdr.
Toe-Knee
Member
Doesn't seem to be any detail loss to me. Just results in better contrast imho but everyone has their preferences.
I'll try switching back and see how I feel.
The main reason I lowered it was games with brightness sliders such as uncharted 4 didn't go a enough to make the image appear as the game said it should.
Seyfert
Member
I tried and i failed : ( So, i guess i must stick with this one. So, if anyone have any idea about how to set it up(X800E) will be very appreciate.
or which time of the year Sony usually introduce a new successor ? If that is not that far maybe i will return mine and trust my luck and wait for X800F which i think it will happen sooner or later.
TheBoss1
Member
Assuming you're in the US, Amazon still has the X800D selling for $680. It's a third party seller but it comes from Amazon's warehouse stock. The seller has very high positive ratings with over 50,000 in total so they seem trustworthy.
Sony XBR43X800D
Roku Ultra, and Premiere+ iirc are the only others.
And I believe the Premiere+ is preferred in general over the CC. Then again I don't remember what the big difference is between the Roku Ultra and Plus is lol.
TheBoss1
Member
You have the worse version since it is a IPS panel. The 43" is the only good one in this model line since it is a VA panel. If you don't mind going smaller, get this one instead.
This is a bit hyperbolic. The 49 inch is still a great set. My HDR in mass effect is fantastic on the ps4 pro, as with other HDR content. I don't know about pc though. Seems it needs more tweaking etc to work properly.
LOL. C'mon dude. I understand the difference. I wanted a larger set and I prefer the better viewing angles. You make it sound like IPS is awful which it is not. I'm not some fanboy idiot who validates my self worth on electronic devices. But don't pass off the 49 as trash. There are many others in this thread perfectly happy with it also.
Eh, the 43" isn't anything to write home about for Andromeda HDR. I always prefer VA over IPS. But it isn't as bad as you're making it out to be. HDR is also more reliant on the nit brightness. Really bright rooms might be an issue but darker rooms,or evening time is fine. Those with IPS panels can also get bias lighting behind to offset some of the issues.
I use a hue bloom behind mine. And I know it does not get as bright or have as deep blacks as a VA panel, but it still displays the wide color gamut, which many cheaper "HDR" sets do not.
Either way both are good for what they are, especially for the price. Great set.
kingbean
Member
Upgraded to a Vizio M50-E1 and boy it's a much nicer set. It's great to have an affordable 50" tv with HDR that actually looks impressive.
Don't get me wrong I think my 43" sony looks nice but the vizio really does shine for a similar price. The local dimming and much higher nuts on the vizio make for a much more impressive image.
It's slightly slower. 38ms vs 33ms but I honestly can't tell.
I'm very pleased. And in selling the x800d to a friend for 300..
Don't get me wrong I think my 43" sony looks nice but the vizio really does shine for a similar price. The local dimming and much higher nuts on the vizio make for a much more impressive image.
It's slightly slower. 38ms vs 33ms but I honestly can't tell.
I'm very pleased. And in selling the x800d to a friend for 300..
Mahnmut
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After my previous message was posted I sold it online. Going for the higher end 49" or Oled.
TheBoss1
Member
The X900E? That is a huge step up in brightness but definitely worth it.
Also, you can't go wrong with OLED either. Absolute blacks are killer!
DirtyLarry
Member
Is there a dedicated 4k HDR TV Thread? When I searched all I found was this one and a thread about budget 4K TV's and a PS4 Pro.
People talk here about all kinds of TVs, from entry to OLEDs.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1323499
So what would be the equivalent of this TV in EU? Since i moved to Finland i am looking to replace the TV i had with the same model, but a bigger one.
Amazon link anyone?
Thinking of doing the 60" this time. maybe 65" if the price allows it. Unless you guys have any other recommendations.
Amazon link anyone?
Thinking of doing the 60" this time. maybe 65" if the price allows it. Unless you guys have any other recommendations.
Nice. Thanks!
Cheaper than i thought it would be.
Anyone here with this version? at the largest size (55)? I dunno if i should spring for this or upgrade to a different TV now. hehe.
Just my tuppence worth, but I have had the Sony 55XD8005 (UK) for a few months now and have been very pleased with it.
Using the PS4 Pro & PC on it, and would happily recommend to anyone
Nice. I Had the X800D in the US. But the 49". Got lucky to have a solid panel that didn't really have any issues. Loved it. Was sad to leave it behind but it was the right choice. Now i can upgrade to a bigger size, which i think was needed, but also keep a warranty here.
Its too bad that it doesn't come in a 65". I think that is the size i was looking for. Maybe 70".
Stevey
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I have it and am really pleased with it, although I haven't tried HDR content on it yet.
ItalianJoe83
Member
My next TV has to be this way:
Sony/LG
4K OLED
42/43 inchs
Lowest imput lag possible
Highest HDR and HDMI technology available at the time
All under 800 $ if possible
Sony/LG
4K OLED
42/43 inchs
Lowest imput lag possible
Highest HDR and HDMI technology available at the time
All under 800 $ if possible
OLEDs are 55" and up, and they cost much more than your budget. Get ready to wait.
Omnistalgic
Member
how is this set compared to X900e? I really want another Sony TV but paying $600-$700 dollars is so much easier than paying $1100.
TheBoss1
Member
Good luck with that lol.
potatohead
Member
Bwahaha that ending line 😂😂😂
TheBoss1
Member
If you plan on keeping the TV for a long time (5+ years), the $500 difference won't matter much but you will definitely be much happier with a better TV.
Dominican Power
Member
So no one else's tv makes a snapping sound from the back of the TV from time to time?