Well game developers (including Capcom) always operate on a plan. Like these Switch ports didn't suddenly come out of thin air as software development isn't completed overnight, but I guess their PR isn't on the same page as the rest of the company? ?___?
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Well game developers (including Capcom) always operate on a plan. Like these Switch ports didn't suddenly come out of thin air as software development isn't completed overnight, but I guess their PR isn't on the same page as the rest of the company? ?___?
MisterR
Member
I'd say it would have much more eaten into the 3DS sales. Considering the only advantage it would have would be portability and the fact that the Switch's success doesn't seem to have affected the PS4 in Japan or any other country.
For MHXX? It was first playable at the MH Finals tournament last month: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocL54dZNvRY
It was the same demo as the 3DS demo.
frankie_baby
Member
True but there's been time to change plans and something needs to be done
NintendosBooger
Member
Best week Japan's seen in a long while.
The 3DS has a lot of advantages over the PS4 version. First it keeps the much more traditional round based fighting that DQ is known for. It also includes a 2D version of the game that changes your strategy when playing compared to the 3D versions. It also includes Yocchi-people battles where you collect fighters and have them battle in their own special side scrolling dungeon to collect keys to go to scenes/cities of past 8 and 16 bit DQ games. The 3DS version is no slouch.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
It did intially. The switch has been way too supply capped to even dream about affecting the PS4's situation may have even driven some traffic that way.
MisterR
Member
Meh, if you're going to mock and laugh at someone's prediction, then you have to be prepared to have what goes around come around.
MisterR
Member
I'm not saying it's a slouch, I'm saying the Switch and 3DS are more similar so Switch would be more likely to take sales from 3DS, not to mention, I would guess most Switch owners in Japan probably have a 3DS as well, so a lot more overlap than with PS4.
I mean, RER 1+2 kind of does feel like it came out of nowhere.
To quote ani:
The Switch version is likely a port of the PS4 one so I don't see how you could argue that it's more similar to the 3DS version. The platforms in themselves don't matter.
Maybe, but I think resources being freed up to work on these ports may be more likely. They'll probably work on RE4/5/6 ports after RER 1+2 is done.
Who knows. Maybe they're just being reactive like you say.
While we don't know what version the Switch will be getting, it will probably be most similar to the PS4 version, so there is a more incentive for a person to have the PS4+3DS version, or the Switch+3DS version, but little incentive for a person to have the PS4+Switch version. If it had launched at the same time as the others, it probably would have eaten into the PS4 sales a bit more than the 3DS sales - but probably not by much in either case since there are only ~1.3 million Switches.
Man there is a lot of faith in SE for DQXI Switch, so when do you guys expect to see this title?
Yeah saw the NicoNice press thing when we all heard it was coming but it does not count if we never seen it
They are not gonna talk about it until they Squeeze all the money out of the 3DS and PS4 versions, prob around TGS.
People got PS4 simply because they prefer it over 3DS version and its portability as advantage. So a Switch version that it's a PS4 version, and can be played hybrid, would have beat PS4 version sale and affect PS4
jeremy1456
Junior Member
On the topic of ARMS, not to say 'I told you so' but I told you so.
I said it would crawl to 200k. Everyone called me crazy claiming it would sell a million copies in Japan.
I said it would crawl to 200k. Everyone called me crazy claiming it would sell a million copies in Japan.
Nobody said this. (maybe Noshten but he doesn't count). Also it'll be at 200k in about 3 weeks, that's not really crawling there.
Oh, I was talking about Capcom TV specifically, not any event. Forgot to mention it in my post, I see.
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The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild - Road to 1 million
- Switch LTD: 548 819
- Wii U LTD: 133 024 (missing lots of weeks)
- Combined LTD: 681 843 units
- Units left to 1 million = 318 157 units
- Weeks left: 22 weeks, so needs 14 461 units/weeks.
Yeah, we're clearly nowhere near the required amount of sales
I'll do one for 3DS & 24m in 2017 later.
frankie_baby
Member
Did anyone say it'd sell a million in japan alone? Besides the switch is still young yeah it'll be a crawl but it'll go a lot higher than 200k in the end
No it's not. 3DS had YKK, Barroth and Barioth. Switch has Great Maccao, Barioth and Valfark. The bit about no demo also comes from an interview where he said along the lines that "since it's playable everywhere in Japan, we won't have a demo", I'll look it up in a bit.
There it is: https://nintendosoup.com/no-demo-planned-monster-hunter-xx-nintendo-switch-says-capcom/
With the holiday bump, the still active development on 3DS, Pokemon and the Switch supply issues, 24m is a lock. I'd say 25m is a lock too, but we'll see about that. 2DS could stop just short of that.
Interesting that 2DS XL was by far the most sold 3DS hardware during DQ week.
Nice to see some growth. It's been a long time since Japan was on a good road, hardware wise. Though everything looks laughable compared to the time PS2, PSP, DS and Wii overlapped.
Regarding Monster Hunter World sales - IIRC Monster Hunter Tri on the Wii sold about 500k first week. The Wii was a much healthier system than the PS4 by the time MH came around and MH was at it's peak too...
What suggests a 800k-1m week for MHW? Is the PS4 that healthy?
Isn't something along MHTri first week sales or maybe other high profile console titles like MGS or Yakuza much more likely?
Graphics Horse
Member
I don't know how many but there was a DQ Slime edition.
I think it's safe to assume that everything has huge overlap with 3DS.
Of the Kenka Bancho games? According to the wikipedia entry it is a side story.
Well, Switch hasn't really eaten into the 3DS sales either, seeing it is up YOY as well (even if you discount the 3DS jump from this week, although why would you?). The question of which version would be impacted the most by a Switch version is kind of a chicken-and-egg question in my eyes: Are sales lost because the PS4 version is now portable, i.e. sales taken from PS4, where people wanted the HD version more than the portable version but wanted a portable HD version most of all, or did Switch take 3DS sales away because the people who are entrenched in portable gaming would flock to the HD version of the portable versions if given the chance? I have no idea which is most impactful out of the two tbh, and I don't think we can determine that since we won't have a comparison.
Arms is already over 200k and that's far from where it will end. I don't know what kind of recognition your ask.
Ah, well that makes a lot of sense then.
Looks like the Switch release has invigorated the market quite a bit above the level of the previous year, great thing! Hopefully Switch can go Super Saiyan in the holiday season as well, and lift this year head and shoulders above the previous.
This is not what you call crawling. 500k might be a bit tough as it turns out, but you're misrepresenting the situation to fit your incorrect prediction.
Skullwaker
Member
Lol what? I don't remember seeing anyone claiming it would sell 1m, let alone everyone.
And I wouldn't even say it's "crawling" to 200k. It only came out last month and it's almost there. It should chart for a while.
Psss, it's already August
But yeah ARMS is selling ok. It's clearly no Splatoon, that's for sure.
Oh, I was going by this: https://twitter.com/aevanko/status/877504594535788544?lang=en
Interesting that they're not the same.
Considering the userbase it isn't disappointing. As the userbase increases the evergreen Splatoon 2 will swim along with it
Skullwaker
Member
Principate
Saint Titanfall
ARMS should be almost already at 200k on Famitsu so the crawling has pretty much finished.
Not sure where he's getting that from, maybe he saw a fight against Barioth, which is in both versions. Also updated my original post with the interview about no planned MHXX demo.
Its at 215K with digital
thestopsign
Member
Not even close. Holidays and launches vastly outclip this week just accounting for a single system. It is a very solid week though.
Oh and the Switch launch was a better week for hardware already this year.
You spared me the search for it, but that was what I was recalling with regards to no demo.
Speaking of Capcom, I wonder what the next Switch ports will be ("multiple Switch-versions of games"). Personally, I'm expecting both the Disney Afternoon Collection and the Megaman Collection to hit the system sooner or later, but I'm wondering if Dragon's Dogma could happen as well, at this point. I certainly was not expecting the RE ports to happen / be announced this soon after those statements, and they cater to the kind of audience which the DD remaster caters to as well.
Heck, IIRC earlier this year the RE's producer stated there were no plans for the franchise on the system, and now both RE1 and 2 are coming XD
Graphics Horse
Member
Sounds more like it yeah.
Capcom has no idea what they are doing.
twothunder
Member
Good numbers for Dragon quest and Splatoon.
That 3ds and hardware bump as pretty nice to see too
that sounds more likely
That 3ds and hardware bump as pretty nice to see too
that sounds more likely
Tbf that just sounds like the usual PR code for "we have nothing to announce right now"
Like when DQXI was announced for PS4 and 3DS, Square-Enix said they have "no plans" to localise it when they really meant "we have nothing to announce right now". It's bad but following video game companies for so long I think we shouldn't take these words at face value. PR speak a different language usually.