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Media Create Sales: Week 30, 2017 (Jul 24 - Jul 30)

MTC100

Banned
Oh, I was talking about Capcom TV specifically, not any event. Forgot to mention it in my post, I see.

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The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild - Road to 1 million

- Switch LTD: 548 819
- Wii U LTD: 133 024 (missing lots of weeks)
- Combined LTD: 681 843 units
- Units left to 1 million = 318 157 units
- Weeks left: 22 weeks, so needs 14 461 units/weeks.

Yeah, we're clearly nowhere near the required amount of sales ;)

I'll do one for 3DS & 24m in 2017 later.

I lost all hope of BotW reaching 1m in Japan, the series does well but it will never be S-Tier like Splatoon, Pokemon, Monster Hunter or Dragon Quest. It's also sad to see the Switch selling 90k Units and BotW declining even more.
 

Effect

Member
First they said no demo.

Then shortly after the reporting period ended, they suddenly announced a demo.

Just as they suddenly announced RER 1+2 in a hurried attempt to have some more software available because they very obviously, at this point its hard to argue, had zero expectations or forward planning with regards to the Switch's performance. Like they didn't even make contingency plans, they're now just rushing out software.

It very much does look like Capcom is scrambling. Their decisions scream it to me. They completely wrote off Nintendo and their latest system (which was also a portable). They tried to do the bare minimum with Ultra Street Fighter. Something so cheap and lack luster that if it failed there would be no money loss. Filled with repurposed content from the game itself to the artwork section (scans of a book they sold in the past). The only brand new content in that game is the Way of Hado mode which is trash. Surprisingly it did well enough and now the investors are wondering what is there for the system that is doing very well and constantly sold out.

Another port of a game that came out on both the 3DS and the Wii U is not a plan. That's an "oh shit" move where they are looking around the room and grabbing the nearest thing off the shelf. Fuck Capcom.
 
I lost all hope of BotW reaching 1m in Japan, the series does well but it will never be S-Tier like Splatoon, Pokemon, Monster Hunter or Dragon Quest. It's also sad to see the Switch selling 90k Units and BotW declining even more.

Switch doesnt exist in a vacuum i suspect DQ11 probably stunted potential botw sales this week, if the switch baseline is improved from here on then i have no doubt zelda will still hit a million just will probably now be next year
 

Salvadora

Member
I lost all hope of BotW reaching 1m in Japan, the series does well but it will never be S-Tier like Splatoon, Pokemon, Monster Hunter or Dragon Quest. It's also sad to see the Switch selling 90k Units and BotW declining even more.
I think it's only a matter of time before Zelda hits 1m.

Hitting it in 2017 was a rather arbitrary marker.
 

Principate

Saint Titanfall
I think it's only a matter of time before Zelda hits 1m

Hitting it in 2017 was a rather arbitrary marker.

Yeah that was always silly. I'm not even sure why that was an expectation/barometer.
It's not underperforming by any means unless your comparing it to the insane attache ratios it has in the rest of the world.
 

sense

Member
I think games like resident evil revelations, disney collection, mega man legacy collection were always meant to hit switch but the success of the platform probably got them fast tracked. Now if resident evil 7 or even dragons dogma dark arisen comes to the platform I would be surprised.
 

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
A good push form DLC and Nintendo these holidays and 1m is still possible this year.

But early to mid 2018 is more likely.
 

Kyoufu

Member
I think games like resident evil revelations, disney collection, mega man legacy collection were always meant to hit switch but the success of the platform probably got them fast tracked. Now if resident evil 7 or even dragons dogma dark arisen comes to the platform I would be surprised.

They said they're porting the RE engine to Switch, no? RE7 port wouldn't surprise me at all.
 

Arynio

Member
I lost all hope of BotW reaching 1m in Japan, the series does well but it will never be S-Tier like Splatoon, Pokemon, Monster Hunter or Dragon Quest. It's also sad to see the Switch selling 90k Units and BotW declining even more.

It might not reach 1M before the end of the year, but it will surely cross it LT. It's already close to 750k when accounting for digital and will probably sell low amounts for the Switch's entire lifetime.
 

L~A

Member
How is taking the calendar year as goal for 1m an arbritrary marker for BOTW? Besides, it's really just for "fun", nothing too serious, it's not like the franchise will be doomed forever if it doesn't reach 1m this year.

3DS just had a new hardware release; a good performance shouldn't surprise anyone.

3DS is on its 7th year on the market, and that new Hardware release is the 6th (6th!) model to be launched. So yeah, 142k IS surprising for a console that has already reached saturation (though most of the increase is due to the DQXI bundle).

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To reach 24 million units before the end of the year, the Nintendo 3DS needs to sell 902 849 units during the next 22 weeks, so 41 038 units on average. Gonna be tough, especially during September/October.
 

Zedark

Member
Oh, I know it always sells well.
Just, it seems like, why not buy both? Unless you're waiting for one until playing through the other first or something.

This strikes me as an odd question. Buying both versions of a game is not really a standard practice, is it? I get DQ is a unicorn in the Japanese market, but expecting even 20% double dip to me seems... ambitious? Maybe I don't understand the market for these games, though (that's a real possibility, I don't know much about DQ and its sales).
 
I lost all hope of BotW reaching 1m in Japan, the series does well but it will never be S-Tier like Splatoon, Pokemon, Monster Hunter or Dragon Quest. It's also sad to see the Switch selling 90k Units and BotW declining even more.
I'm not sure if 1 million will happen. However, it is already poised to outsell every Zelda but OoT and PH. Granted I'm unfamiliar with sales of the series prior to OoT. Even if BotW doesn't hit 1 million it will still go on to the best selling entry in 10 years and one of the best in the series. That's still a really good result for Japan and I don't think anyone should be disappointed by the results of BotW.
 

sense

Member
They said they're porting the RE engine to Switch, no? RE7 port wouldn't surprise me at all.
Yea maybe but let's see. it would be a sign of a big AAA current gen third party game on it and could tell us what, if any, sacrifices need to be made to atleast bring over big single player third party games to the platform. Then again it is a low budget effort in comparison to re5 or re6.
 

Lonely1

Unconfirmed Member
I think games like resident evil revelations, disney collection, mega man legacy collection were always meant to hit switch but the success of the platform probably got them fast tracked. Now if resident evil 7 or even dragons dogma dark arisen comes to the platform I would be surprised.

Why are they not announced then, let alone released? I mean, a hobbist could probably do the port in a couple of months. Is not like they are high risk projects.
 

MTC100

Banned
Switch doesnt exist in a vacuum i suspect DQ11 probably stunted potential botw sales this week, if the switch baseline is improved from here on then i have no doubt zelda will still hit a million just will probably now be next year

That might be true, yes, didn't think about how Dragonquest might hurt other games sales, I guess because seeing Splatoon 2 still selling over 100K, maybe Splatoon 2 hurt Zelda last week and this week it's Dragonquest, who knows ^^
 

Eolz

Member
To be fair, and back on the topic from last week, most MT framework games (as in not new branches like MHW) could and should be ported easily to Switch.
And we all know that Capcom got a large catalogue of those games that didn't make it on a Nintendo platform before... (RE, MvC3, Lost Planet, Dragon's Dogma, etc)
 
How is taking the calendar year as goal for 1m an arbritrary marker for BOTW? Besides, it's really just for "fun", nothing too serious, it's not like the franchise will be doomed forever if it doesn't reach 1m this year.



3DS is on its 7th year on the market, and that new Hardware release is the 6th (6th!) model to be launched. So yeah, 142k IS surprising for a console that has already reached saturation (though most of the increase is due to the DQXI bundle).

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To reach 24 million units before the end of the year, the Nintendo 3DS needs to sell 902 849 units during the next 22 weeks, so 41 038 units on average. Gonna be tough, especially during September/October.

Consider maybe 300k for decmber (which would still be noticably down on last year) and its 33k in the mean time, a few bumps here and there and it should be done
 
Yea maybe but let's see. it would be a sign of a big AAA third party game on it and could tell us what, if any, sacrifices need to be made to atleast bring over big single player third party games to the platform.

Well RE7 was already made to work with PSVR (you have to sacrifice a lot of stuff to make PS4 -> VR conversion) so Switch version really wouldn't surprise me. Especially as it's 60 fps games. If nothing else they could lower framerate to 30 fps and that at least should make port easily feasible.
 
That might be true, yes, didn't think about how Dragonquest might hurt other games sales, I guess because seeing Splatoon 2 still selling over 100K, maybe Splatoon 2 hurt Zelda last week and this week it's Dragonquest, who knows ^^

Well splatoon 2 is primarily selling this week to new switch owners
 
This strikes me as an odd question. Buying both versions of a game is not really a standard practice, is it? I get DQ is a unicorn in the Japanese market, but expecting even 20% double dip to me seems... ambitious? Maybe I don't understand the market for these games, though (that's a real possibility, I don't know much about DQ and its sales).
Well it helps that they play very differently. Dual versions worked very well with Pokemon and Fire Emblem. I suspect Dragon Quest has enough of a core base that would double dip and may extend its legs further than usual.


Yea maybe but let's see. it would be a sign of a big AAA third party game on it and could tell us what, if any, sacrifices need to be made to atleast bring over big single player third party games to the platform.
Capcom said back in the Spring that they were testing to see if they could get the RE7 Engine working on Switch. Considering the RE7 engine took a lot of time to make and so far only RE7 uses; I'd say they want to put RE7 on Switch if it's feasible.
 
To be fair, and back on the topic from last week, most MT framework games (as in not new branches like MHW) could and should be ported easily to Switch.
And we all know that Capcom got a large catalogue of those games that didn't make it on a Nintendo platform before... (RE, MvC3, Lost Planet, Dragon's Dogma, etc)

It's not like Capcom has much new to release, so what are they waiting for? :p
 

KtSlime

Member
I lost all hope of BotW reaching 1m in Japan, the series does well but it will never be S-Tier like Splatoon, Pokemon, Monster Hunter or Dragon Quest. It's also sad to see the Switch selling 90k Units and BotW declining even more.

But it isn't even its final form yet. It still has DLC and Happy Price to go.
 

Principate

Saint Titanfall
How is taking the calendar year as goal for 1m an arbritrary marker for BOTW? Besides, it's really just for "fun", nothing too serious, it's not like the franchise will be doomed forever if it doesn't reach 1m this year.



3DS is on its 7th year on the market, and that new Hardware release is the 6th (6th!) model to be launched. So yeah, 142k IS surprising for a console that has already reached saturation (though most of the increase is due to the DQXI bundle).

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To reach 24 million units before the end of the year, the Nintendo 3DS needs to sell 902 849 units during the next 22 weeks, so 41 038 units on average. Gonna be tough, especially during September/October.


Because how many Zelda's in recent history have even sold 1 million copies in Japan ltd let alone in one calender year.
 
All this talk of Zelda and RE just made me realize that the franchises basically switched places this gen in terms of sales potential in Japan.
 

Yagami_Sama

Member
Great week. I am kind of surprised with Switch numbers, I was thinking it would hit 40k. It would be great for Nintendo if they could keep that numbers.

I also thought that Dragon Quest for PS4 would be above 1 million.

I was expecting Splatoon 2 to sell 50K or so, 100k was impressive. I wonder if it was wise to release the game on July, instead of, like October, releasing Mario now and Splatoon later.

700k on a 1 million base , the attach rate is awesome, but maybe in a bigger base the numbers would be even better or maybe the LTD numbers would be the same.
 

jeremy1456

Junior Member
Did anyone say it'd sell a million in japan alone? Besides the switch is still young yeah it'll be a crawl but it'll go a lot higher than 200k in the end

Look back at the MC threads from before it released. It wasn't uncommon for people to predict multi millions in Japan because they were convinced ARMS would be the next Splatoon.

ARMS is on the decline even with strong Switch sales. It's going to drop like a rock when supply lowers.
 

schuelma

Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
Look back at the MC threads from before it released. It wasn't uncommon for people to predict multi millions in Japan because they were convinced ARMS would be the next Splatoon.

ARMS is on the decline even with strong Switch sales. It's going to drop like a rock when supply lowers.

There were a few posters going insane but for the most part people had relatively reasonable expectations.

A new IP is going to probably sell at least 400K. I think that's pretty good.
 

Zedark

Member
Great week. I am kind of surprised with Switch numbers, I was thinking it would hit 40k. It would be great for Nintendo if they could keep that numbers.

I also thought that Dragon Quest for PS4 would be above 1 million.

I was expecting Splatoon 2 to sell 50K or so, 100k was impressive. I wonder if it was wise to release the game on July, instead of, like October, releasing Mario now and Splatoon later.

700k on a 1 million base , the attach rate is awesome, but maybe in a bigger base the numbers would be even better or maybe the LTD numbers would be the same.
This is probably true if you look at Japan only, but worldwide it's the other way around.
 

13ruce

Banned
Actually wondering if Splatoon will be a every 2 years kind of franchise but if Splatoon's 2 legs are good i think they might wait a while longer with 3.
 

ethomaz

Banned
Bye bye PS3! See you, maybe, next year.

PS4 first to 6m is a given already.

DQXI sold really close numbers across PS4 and 3DS... over 2 million... possible 2.5m with digital... that shows when a game is good it sells and when it is bad it fail.
 

Asd202

Member
Really good results for DQXI on PS4. When it was announced as 3DS/PS4 game I was sure it would sell much better than on 3DS but it was acually pretty close. Too bad it did not break 1 million.
 
Actually wondering if Splatoon will be a every 2 years kind of franchise but if Splatoon's 2 legs are good i think they might wait a while longer with 3.

I could easily see a splatoon 3 on switch, possibly christmas 2019 with the splatfests scheduled to end summer that year
 

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
Look back at the MC threads from before it released. It wasn't uncommon for people to predict multi millions in Japan because they were convinced ARMS would be the next Splatoon.

ARMS is on the decline even with strong Switch sales. It's going to drop like a rock when supply lowers.
You continue to imagine things when you the same were very wrong for Arms.
 

u_neek

Junior Member
DQXI sold really close numbers across PS4 and 3DS... over 2 million... possible 2.5m with digital... that shows when a game is good it sells and when it is bad it fail.
If anything, it just shows that DQ is still relevant. Luckily, the game seems to be getting loads of praise so hopefully it will be leggy too.
 
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