shadow_shogun
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Does McGregor expect to win like this? 😂
As a long-time fan and admirer of MMA, the most painful part of all this is the MMA media caving to the hype and entertaining the idea that Conor has a chance. It's deeply embarrassing, and it's a reminder that most MMA media members are still just shrieking Just Bleed fans with laminated badges. It's also a reminder, I guess, that these people would do almost anything to get/stay in the UFC's good graces. (No-selling the Conor fight would be a quick trip to the blacklist.)
There's lots of fun and relevant stuff to discuss (e.g., the spectacle itself, the social aspects of the lead-up and contest, what this says about MMA's continued emergence, the possible implications for the Ali Act's application to Conor, etc.). But it just kills me to see the MMA talking heads discussing Conor's fucking routes to victory.
Couple of videos of Mayweather sparring partners, Maurice Lee and Daquan Mays. Some good stuff.
To give you some more videos.
Robert Guerrero saying how when you see Floyd on film, you think one thing, but it's different when you are in the ring with him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqzVQ6BT_hU
Nate Jones, a trainer with Floyd and fellow boxing Olympian himself said Floyd is going to make it hot in there early.
https://youtu.be/yQ6CudkRgwo
He's going to check Conor early like he did Pacquiao to let him know that it's not a game.
He sat on his punch early and let Manny know that if he wants to come into the kitchen, prepare to catch some heat.
I know people say that McGregor has to do it in the first few rounds but I think he will be truly surprised when Floyd takes the fight to him. He rarely shoulder rolls lefties, he fights in the high guard like this.
This is the first round to the Pacquiao fight, mostly high guard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gyYPtVkyDo
So he will largely nullify Conor's left while using his own left and if Conor lazily throws out the left, Floyd will counter over it with a right or pull counter like this.
Conor and his people and many others seem to think that Floyd is too small. Floyd has fought and sparred bigger people his entire life. Not to mention, he lacks the one thing that would control Floyd in this fight, an authoritative jab. Anything less than a godly jab and you don't get to compete against Floyd.
Oscar, Castillo, Cotto, Maidana. What do they have in common in the ring? They have great jabs.
Even then, in the six fights, Floyd's hand was raised victoriously in all of them. Paul Williams would have been a tough fighter for him, huge volume puncher with way longer reach at 79 inches
It's weird, when Floyd was training under his uncle Roger, who was a more offensive fight, Floyd never really took off early on opponents. After he got back with his dad, all the logic about Floyd starting slow went out the window.
Round 1 of the Berto fight, Floyd saw fit to jump in with a few leaping lefts, going towards Berto's dominant hand and in essence, giving no fucks about what Andre was capable of doing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqC6et5B7ck
As a result, it becomes a thinking man's game in the ring with Floyd and when you do that, you lose. Look at any boxer that has ever sparred or fought Floyd, they will always speak about his ring IQ
As I said previously, is Father Time on his doorstep? That was the only real question in this fight. If a boxer like Bernard Hopkins can dominate deep into his 40s, then a boxer like Floyd who has ALWAYS taken care of himself physically, can dominate at the age of 40. Remember, Jordan, once in a blue moon, was capable of putting up 50 in a Wizards jersey so don't be surprised to see the 'old' man from Grand Rapids, still flying around the ring gracefully in less than two weeks, cruising to victory.
A+ content.To give you some more videos.
Robert Guerrero saying how when you see Floyd on film, you think one thing, but it's different when you are in the ring with him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqzVQ6BT_hU
Nate Jones, a trainer with Floyd and fellow boxing Olympian himself said Floyd is going to make it hot in there early.
https://youtu.be/yQ6CudkRgwo
He's going to check Conor early like he did Pacquiao to let him know that it's not a game.
He sat on his punch early and let Manny know that if he wants to come into the kitchen, prepare to catch some heat.
I know people say that McGregor has to do it in the first few rounds but I think he will be truly surprised when Floyd takes the fight to him. He rarely shoulder rolls lefties, he fights in the high guard like this.
This is the first round to the Pacquiao fight, mostly high guard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gyYPtVkyDo
So he will largely nullify Conor's left while using his own left and if Conor lazily throws out the left, Floyd will counter over it with a right or pull counter like this.
Conor and his people and many others seem to think that Floyd is too small. Floyd has fought and sparred bigger people his entire life. Not to mention, he lacks the one thing that would control Floyd in this fight, an authoritative jab. Anything less than a godly jab and you don't get to compete against Floyd.
Oscar, Castillo, Cotto, Maidana. What do they have in common in the ring? They have great jabs.
Even then, in the six fights, Floyd's hand was raised victoriously in all of them. Paul Williams would have been a tough fighter for him, huge volume puncher with way longer reach at 79 inches
It's weird, when Floyd was training under his uncle Roger, who was a more offensive fight, Floyd never really took off early on opponents. After he got back with his dad, all the logic about Floyd starting slow went out the window.
Round 1 of the Berto fight, Floyd saw fit to jump in with a few leaping lefts, going towards Berto's dominant hand and in essence, giving no fucks about what Andre was capable of doing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqC6et5B7ck
As a result, it becomes a thinking man's game in the ring with Floyd and when you do that, you lose. Look at any boxer that has ever sparred or fought Floyd, they will always speak about his ring IQ
As I said previously, is Father Time on his doorstep? That was the only real question in this fight. If a boxer like Bernard Hopkins can dominate deep into his 40s, then a boxer like Floyd who has ALWAYS taken care of himself physically, can dominate at the age of 40. Remember, Jordan, once in a blue moon, was capable of putting up 50 in a Wizards jersey so don't be surprised to see the 'old' man from Grand Rapids, still flying around the ring gracefully in less than two weeks, cruising to victory.
And for those that think that Mr. Ellerbe was just engaging in promoter bluster to disguise poor ticket sales, you can now look for yourself. As the Ticketmaster seat-by-seat map is now available to view. When it went live the morning of August the 14th, there was just a slight change where the very last row of the 100 level seating was changed to $2500. In the morning there were around fifteen hundred tickets available for sale which is less than ten percent of the available amount that can be sold to the public.
I don't think Conor will win this fight. I am rooting for him and I really hope he can catch him early. Those three images above don't account for reach. I don't know what the difference is but Conor uses his reach well and his awkward movement makes it even more so.
I don't think you will see Conor open and in range like Pacquiao is, I guess it depends how heavy Mayweathers shots are. If Conor thinks he can take them he might gamble but he is a pretty smart fighter. He is going to try hit from range, I think all this talk of him roughing Mayweather up inside is smoke.
I just checked and Conor has a 6cm reach advantage over Mayweather. Its interesting that Nate had that much reach over Conor but in the fight Conor landed from range. Not that Nate has anywhere near the defence of Mayweather.
Mayweather 208 of 477 (44 percent)
Mosley 92 of 452 (20 percent)
Shane Mosley, the guy from my third gif, shares the same length reach advantage that Conor does over Floyd.
Final punch stats from that fight
People going on and on about unconventional technique from Conor, but he also has to worry about from Floyd. Virtually everything that he does is textbook to the nth degree, with the exception of his lead right hand.That shit just flies out. He doesn't have a tell on the punch. He uses it like a sniper like jab. He doesn't use sit on it and throw it at his hardest but after a while, people usually stop coming forward because it hurts enough.
Another angle
One of his most textbook punches is the jab to the midsection to get your hands down after a while and to use it as a range finder. He will go downstairs on Conor early.
After a while, the mental drain gets to you and Floyd throws out filler shots to set you up.
After a while, you see this from the opponent.
And defenseless against this
I'm honestly just having fun revisiting Floyd and his highlights.
Like at one point in time, Floyd's plus/minus percentage = times hitting an opponent versus how many times he's been hit was at +30. Number 2 at the time was Andre Ward at +15.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...st-of-all-time-according-to-compubox-at-least.
Can the impossible happen? I guess you have to at least be open to the idea of it but I've tried, I've literally tried to at least muster up something and I keep coming back to this simple fact.
Floyd's seen lefties, he's seen 'unorthodox', he's seen brawlers, he's seen speed, he's seen counter-punchers, he's seen fighters with longer reach. All that and from boxers that does it better than Conor and more often than not, he's dispatched them rather easily. Why? Largely because they are incapable of stopping what he is doing in the ring, which brings me back to my original premise for this fight. Floyd is going to do whatever he wants to do on his way to a massacre. I don't see how it won't be.
Has anyone else heard the rumor today that Zab knocked out Floyd today in sparring ?
I'm not saying it's true, I'm just curious if anyone else has heard it.
Has anyone else heard the rumor today that Zab knocked out Floyd today in sparring ?
I'm not saying it's true, I'm just curious if anyone else has heard it.
Can you buy the PPV without a cable provider (stream it)?
Has anyone else heard the rumor today that Zab knocked out Floyd today in sparring ?
I'm not saying it's true, I'm just curious if anyone else has heard it.
Conor was exhausted by the 3rd round in the second Diaz fight. The freakin 3rd round.
How does this go any way but Mayweather PLAYING with him by the middle of the fight?
Mayweather should and probably win, however I think you underestimate Mcgreggors
1) speed
2) and isn't afraid to get hit.
I don't see him falling for the pageantry.
If mayweather wins it will be on points, but Conner has a punchers chance.
Mayweather should and probably win, however I think you underestimate Mcgreggors
1) speed
2) and isn't afraid to get hit.
I don't see him falling for the pageantry.
If mayweather wins it will be on points, but Conner has a punchers chance.
I can't believe somebody said McGregor's speed. LOL
The disparity in athleticism between Mayweather and McGregor is vast and will be the first thing noticeable to observers as soon as you see them in the ring together.
Mark my words, you're going to constantly hear the commentators remark on how much slower McGegror looks to a 40 year old Mayweather.
Has anyone else heard the rumor today that Zab knocked out Floyd today in sparring ?
I'm not saying it's true, I'm just curious if anyone else has heard it.
You apparently haven't seen his MMA training.this has got to be purposeful trolling lol
It's fake news likely started by Floyds camp themselves to promote / stir up interest
You mean boxing technique, what exactly is McGregor less athletic in?
You mean boxing technique, what exactly is McGregor less athletic in?
Things Mayweather is better at : boxing
Things McGregor is better at: muay thai, bjj, judo, sambo, wrestling, tkd, capoeira, literally every other martial art.
It's pretty obvious who the more well rounded athlete is, luckily for Floyd its a boxing contest.
Conor was exhausted by the 3rd round in the second Diaz fight. The freakin 3rd round.
How does this go any way but Mayweather PLAYING with him by the middle of the fight?
He ate his way up to 170lbs on short notice.
Diaz has one of the best chins in the history of combat sports combined with a freakish height & reach at lightweight and a love of cardio outside of training camps. In the rematch he dropped Nate three times clean and avenged his only loss in the UFC.
In terms of this fight I think Conor will win inside of five rounds by TKO. People can post all the impressive gifs from the past they want but it doesn't change the fact that Floyd is 40 years old and hasn't fought in almost two years. The pressure is also all on him. He is expected to win and he will be an embarrassment to his sport if he doesn't win in convincing fashion against a guy 0-0 in his sport.
Conor has age, height, reach, power, speed, chin and unorthodox style all on his side.
The people calling this a sure thing and an insult to boxing are about to look extremely silly because even if Floyd does win it's going to be extremely competitive.
He ate his way up to 170lbs on short notice.
Diaz has one of the best chins in the history of combat sports combined with a freakish height & reach at lightweight and a love of cardio outside of training camps. In the rematch Conor dropped Nate three times clean and avenged his only loss in the UFC.
In terms of this fight I think Conor will win inside of five rounds by TKO. People can post all the impressive gifs from the past they want but it doesn't change the fact that Floyd is 40 years old and hasn't fought in almost two years. The pressure is also all on him. He is expected to win and he will be an embarrassment to his sport if he doesn't win in convincing fashion against a guy 0-0 in his sport.
Conor has age, height, reach, power, speed, chin and unorthodox style all on his side.
The people calling this a sure thing and an insult to boxing are about to look extremely silly because even if Floyd does win it's going to be extremely competitive.
40 would be old if he didnt take care of himself and drank and did drugs.
It's relatively old when you're fighting younger world class athletes/fighters.
Boxers have held titles at older ages and Conor isn't a world class boxer.