Hold your ground, Sony
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Hold your ground, Sony
Deeke[VRZ];246801846 said:Why doesn't Sony allow cross play? Curious what you guys think. It has to do with money I bet, and keeping the PlayStation experience locked to PkayStation consoles.
MS is all for cross play because of their new Windows + console unification strategy. Sony doesn't have this, and had instead made PlaySation the center of its entertainment ecosystem.
Deeke[VRZ];246801846 said:Why doesn't Sony allow cross play? Curious what you guys think. It has to do with money I bet, and keeping the PlayStation experience locked to PkayStation consoles.
MS is all for cross play because of their new Windows + console unification strategy. Sony doesn't have this, and had instead made PlaySation the center of its entertainment ecosystem.
It's a Microsoft account. If you've bought from Microsoft, or used skype or any of their services, you are already in anyway. Don't see the big issue here. They need it to authenticate and see what you own.
That's also just for Minecraft, don't need any Microsoft account for other crossplay games.
You want MS to have direct access to PSN accounts then? Because thats a great idea! Much more comfortable "4 the playerz" than making an account in 2 minutes.
What about a Microsoft account?
#4theplaystationplayers
This not why. Not happening on Rocket League either.If you have to sign into Xbox Live on Playstation, crossplay wont happen.
So why bother with crossplay if what they want is add even more account logins to final user?Isn't the purpose of cross-play as in Minecraft that you can use your account and game state across different platforms? Why should Microsoft use PSN logins for that instead of their own account system, which is 100% compatible with Minecraft.
They'd need to implement an entirely new login system if they wanted to support PSN logins on Minecraft for iOS and Android for example. Not sure if that's even possible.
Considering it's Microsoft we are talking about there's most likely some really ugly small print clauses which make it impossible to sign for any sensible company.
How do you expect them to keep things like purchase details across platforms? A unified account is needed for tracking some stuff coming with the update.Why not just use PSN login data like all others cross-game play?
Which is s XBL account. An MS account means you have a skype/xbl etc accounts.What about a Microsoft account?
What about talking to Epic for Fornite crossplay with PC?
There ya go!
Honestly I think Destiny and Monster Hunter Worlds are two that could use crossplay since the communities are close knit. At the same time if crossplay is just to increase player count and i cant chat message or interact with specific friends I can care less about randoms. They need to go all in and make I seamless.
Biggest roadblock for Sony is the compulsory Xbox Live login required on Minecraft PS4 for this, otherwise Sony would've allowed this ages ago
I doubt MS would've allowed vice versa to happen if it was Sony with the Minecraft mandatory PLAN login on Xbox required
Update: "it is still Sony's fault"
They really just need to allow it. It's like the most business decisions of business decisions. Do they still advertise with 'for the players'?
Hasn't that been their stance for awhile? It doesn't sound like they've made progress.
Like he said this week "People buy Xbox because we have the biggest exclusives"???
So MS didn't want to pay the PSN 30% royalties for these purchases.How do you expect them to keep things like purchase details across platforms? A unified account is needed for tracking some stuff coming with the update.
NoSo MS didn't want to pay the PSN 30% royalties for these purchases.
That is the big issue... money.
This not why. Not happening on Rocket League either.
It is the following scenario:
1. Friend John owns a PS4
2. Friend David wants to play Rocket League together with John. David owns neither a PS4 nor a XboxOne
3. David likes Forza but really wants to play together with John
4. David buys a PS4
With cross-play David can buy a XboxOne to play together with John and enjoy Forza.
Now the reverse scenario (where John owns an XboxOne) is less likely due to the dominant market share of the PS4.
This is also why MS and Nintendo have zero problems with it. It works in their favour.
Still I think the benefit is so small for Sony that they should do it anyway.
This is my amateur opinion
Well then Sony won't ever allow it... think a bit about.
So why bother with crossplay if what they want is add even more account logins to final user?
Wrong. They just don't want people to have to pay for the same DLC across platforms.So MS didn't want to pay the PSN 30% royalties for these purchases.
That is the big issue... money.
Sony open to MS logins and lose all DLC profit over PSN purchases.
DLC will be attached to MS account... so all sales go to them.Wrong. They just don't want people to have to pay for the same DLC across platforms.
Man, Sony could turn this into such a big win if they could be bothered. Imagine a bombshell moment like announcing CTR remake, multiplatform, with online cross-play. it's a shame they're not budging on this.
Am not going to say I know transactions would work but I would imagine Sony are still going to be getting a cut.So MS didn't want to pay the PSN 30% royalties for these purchases.
That is the big issue... money.
BS if this was the case they would have already allowed Rocket League and Pure chesse. They don't want console crossplay they have made that very clear so far.Sony open to MS logins and lose all DLC profit over PSN purchases.
You logic flow is pretty good. But there is just one problem. PS4 does not have the dominat market share in this case. The Minecraft play together update will work on PC, iOS, Android, Xbox, Switch. The user base of iOS alone dwarfs PS4's. I bet Microsoft is hammering this point while negotiating with Sony.
DLC will be attached to MS account... so all sales go to them.
Sony will never allow that.
Not making playstation customers sign up for a xbl account to crossplay would be step 1.
You mean a big MS win? Because you will be helping the MS console community allowing them to play with a way huge community without receiving nothing.Man, Sony could turn this into such a big win if they could be bothered. Imagine a bombshell moment like announcing CTR remake, multiplatform, with online cross-play. it's a shame they're not budging on this.
But you can use DLC attached to MS account without buy on PSN.You can still purchase DLC on the Sony store and they get their cut. The mental gymnastics is amazing here.
Do you happen to have a list of xbox one games that have issues with matchmaking. And sony would have the same way huge player base *facepalm*You mean a big MS win? Because you will be helping the MS console community allowing them to play with a way huge community without receiving nothing.
Deeke[VRZ];246801846 said:Why doesn't Sony allow cross play? Curious what you guys think. It has to do with money I bet, and keeping the PlayStation experience locked to PkayStation consoles.
MS is all for cross play because of their new Windows + console unification strategy. Sony doesn't have this, and had instead made PlaySation the center of its entertainment ecosystem.
Not exactly true they improve the experience for the players through faster/more skilled based matchmaking due to increased pool.You mean a big MS win? Because you will be helping the MS console community allowing them to play with a way huge community without receiving nothing.
They'd need to get rid of the timed exclusive shite in Destiny for it to work (maybe).
"hey so you guys wanna do crossplay?"
"nah"
Exactly.Because once you open the gates you can't close it. Minecraft and Rocket League may not be a big deal, but what if FIFA 18 and Call of Duty: WWII wants to merge playerbases? Suddenly Sony loses a competitive advantage: people buy a PS4 to play with their friends.
That's why they won't do it. It's just not going to happen.