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Forza Motorsport 7. A look at some tracks, Forza Horizon 3 skies, Dynamic weather

JoeLT

Member
Looking fantastic, I actually really love the moving camera and HUD personally but they have said you can turn it off.
Hope they have showcases like the race driver experience in 6, those were my favourite races.
 

spuckthew

Member
I'm guessing this dynamic weather stuff is campaign specific and/or an option you can toggle? It looks fun from a "story" perspective, but I sure as shit don't want dynamic weather when I'm trying to hot lap for leaderboard times.
 

Kabanossi

Member
I'm guessing this dynamic weather stuff is campaign specific and/or an option you can toggle? It looks fun from a "story" perspective, but I sure as shit don't want dynamic weather when I'm trying to hot lap for leaderboard times.

I’m sure you can decide the weather conditions and time of day you’re hotlapping in. It’s just a setting like driving assists, MT/AT. The weather can probably be set to sunny, cloudy, rain, heavy rain etc.
 

spuckthew

Member
Check the vid i posted above @4:42

Thanks. Well, it sounds like we'll be able to adjust the weather with quite a lot of granularity in private multiplayer lobbies and free play at least (I assume the time trial/hot lap mode will be part of free play).
 

eso76

Member
Ok, but they still didn't say whether TOD is dynamic (no, it isn't :p) and if dawn/dusk/night and weather are available for all tracks...
 

farisr

Member
So any actual proper details about the Time of Day stuff, cause so far the stuff I've come across has been pretty vague.
 

GHG

Member
So any actual proper details about the Time of Day stuff, cause so far the stuff I've come across has been pretty vague.

Yep it's been really vague. I guess we will have to wait for the demo to find out more. I'm thinking the "dynamic" weather is a string of pre-baked scenarios on certain tracks. I would like to be proven otherwise though.

*Cough* Helios? ;)
 
Maple Valley Raceway is one of my favs! Suddenly floods of nostalgia are hitting me. Kind of want the game now despite only owning a standard XB1
 

MouldyK

Member
Hopefully all of the NASCAR benefits are in straight away, which were:

- Rolling Starts.
- Quick Stops (required pitting each race).
- Cosmetic Damage, but Fuel and Tire Wear (this one I really want in!).
- HUD Proximity Arrows (I'm not really bothered, but it's a nice feature).
 

GHG

Member
According to the guy in this video (don't know if it's been posted before) at around 5:10:

https://youtu.be/D4LsI26fNmE

The tires automatically change from being slicks to wets when the weather changes in the game? Please say it isn't so.

I get why they have done this for casual players but for goodness sake, make it optional. Some of us actually want race and tire and pit strategy to be part of the game.
 

m23

Member
Hopefully all of the NASCAR benefits are in straight away, which were:

- Rolling Starts.
- Quick Stops (required pitting each race).
- Cosmetic Damage, but Fuel and Tire Wear (this one I really want in!).
- HUD Proximity Arrows (I'm not really bothered, but it's a nice feature).

I really don't want rolling starts, have they said it's standard?
 

Outrun

Member
According to the guy in this video (don't know if it's been posted before) at around 5:10:

https://youtu.be/D4LsI26fNmE

The tires automatically change from being slicks to wets when the weather changes in the game? Please say it isn't so.

I get why they have done this for casual players but for goodness sake, make it optional. Some of us actually want race and tire and pit strategy to be part of the game.

Some of these cars would fly off the track on a wet track.

I hear you though. Options are nice.
 
According to the guy in this video (don't know if it's been posted before) at around 5:10:

https://youtu.be/D4LsI26fNmE

The tires automatically change from being slicks to wets when the weather changes in the game? Please say it isn't so.

I get why they have done this for casual players but for goodness sake, make it optional. Some of us actually want race and tire and pit strategy to be part of the game.

This really needs to be an option, a big part of weather racing is preparing for what might happen, formula 1 is a prime example of this.

Please don't mess this up turn10, remember when codemasters removed accelerated tire wear from (I think it was) F1 2013? such a big backlash.

Watched the video at that pitstop segment, it's shitty forza 2 pitting still, no choice for when to release, fuel amount, tyre choice, repair time... terrible effort. The car still doesn't pit correctly it bunny hops down the pit lane and sits next to the bays all on it's own.
 

MaDKaT

Member
It is sad it will not support VR for PC.

That is a downright depressing but I guess Im not all that surprised. Hopefully something comes out down the line. My wheel and headset are very ready. VR racing is exceptional when done right despite the loss in visual fidelity.

In any case. This is the first Forza game I can't wait to play. Almost tempted to pick up an 1X for it just so I don't have to lug my computer out to the living room for 4K.
 

Mascot

Member
According to the guy in this video (don't know if it's been posted before) at around 5:10:

https://youtu.be/D4LsI26fNmE

The tires automatically change from being slicks to wets when the weather changes in the game? Please say it isn't so.

I get why they have done this for casual players but for goodness sake, make it optional. Some of us actually want race and tire and pit strategy to be part of the game.

There's no way that's true. It would be right up there with auto braking as the ultimate dumbing-down decision.
 

GHG

Member
There's no way that's true. It would be right up there with auto braking as the ultimate dumbing-down decision.

I don't udnerstand why they would go through all the bother of implementing a dynamic weather system only to do that? It makes no sense to me.
 
What? You have 3 lap races with dynamic weather, the rain comes and goes in the nurburgring demo... You'd have to change tyres every lap!

They had to do it.

I'm sure there will be endurance modes with dynamic weather where you need to pit for Tyre changes
 

Bobnob

Member
I don't udnerstand why they would go through all the bother of implementing a dynamic weather system only to do that? It makes no sense to me.
Does it mean they auto change wilst your driving? Or do you atleast have to pit for them to auto change
The 1st is just dumb the 2nd i could live with
 

Luckydog

Member
I don't udnerstand why they would go through all the bother of implementing a dynamic weather system only to do that? It makes no sense to me.

Perhaps auto tire changing is the default? as most people would "miss" this step. Yes they would learn but might lead to a poor expierience. Agree with the poster above, options are best.
 

willbsn13

Member
The more options, the better. Especially in a game like Forza, which is really just a huge automotive sandbox.

More options to better curate a experience tailored for you wouldn't hurt. Hopefully we find out closer to launch about tire changing/dynamic weather options.
 

emjot

Member
Sound kinda stupid from a motorsport perspective if the tires magically change to wets, but since they also have to cater the casuals, it might be the only way to do it in a standard 3 lap race in career mode.
I'm sure there will be options to change that and have you change tires manually.
 
The thing with Forza is it's always had a very accessible career for everyone, not just sim fanatics. It's more of a pick up and play game. If they made it so you had to pit stop in every race with weather, I imagine that would annoy more people than those who would prefer it.

It would be nice for it to be an option for higher difficulty though. Or at the very least available in custom races and not the career mode.
 

xrnzaaas

Member
I'd be surprised if the game didn't have the tyre switch option at all. In the previous games races in the career mode were usually 3-4 laps long so you didn't feel the urge to pit even if your car sustained some damage.
 

Mascot

Member
Sound kinda stupid from a motorsport perspective if the tires magically change to wets, but since they also have to cater the casuals, it might be the only way to do it in a standard 3 lap race in career mode.
I'm sure there will be options to change that and have you change tires manually.

That's a good point. It's possible that extremes of weather will be crammed into short 3-odd lap races (dry start, torrential downpour, dry finish) where pitting simply isn't practical.
 

Mascot

Member
The thing with Forza is it's always had a very accessible career for everyone, not just sim fanatics. It's more of a pick up and play game. If they made it so you had to pit stop in every race with weather, I imagine that would annoy more people than those who would prefer it.

It would be nice for it to be an option for higher difficulty though. Or at the very least available in custom races and not the career mode.

That's why I've been frustrated for a long time that FM doesn't have an authentic 'hardcore' mode with proper motorsport rules and structure, quite separate from the eight-to-eighty-year-olds dumbed-down DNA of the main game with it's limo bowling and car soccer (and now breakdancing drivers). Hell, even release it as a budget spin-off with only race cars, real tracks and a proper race weekend structure, and without any of the toy cars or fantasy tracks and none of the kiddy stuff and patronising hand-holding. Put the motorsport back into Forza Motorsport, if it ever existed in the first place. The basics are all in there already but buried under flowery guff and without the options to unlock it. It wouldn't take much to add a proper points system (which they seem to have introduced in lite form in FM7), with practice and qualifying sessions. When Horizon first launched I was hoping this was going to be the direction that FM was going to take, but no. Too risky, I guess. And why kill the goose that laid the golden egg? People seem to love Forza Motorsport just how it is. But I think there's definitely a market for it to have an evil brother and take itself more seriously than it does.
 
Yes I agree. Personally I think there should be 2 career modes. Keep the current one with all it's accessibility, and where it provides 'snaphots' of all the different types of racing.

Then have a simulation season mode or something like that. Where you race all the tracks in a proper league setup, and of course option for full race lengths, qualifying, pit stopping and all the 'difficult' stuff.

And of course keep the quick race, time trial, multiplayer and modding stuff.
 

Mascot

Member
Yes I agree. Personally I think there should be 2 career modes. Keep the current one with all it's accessibility, and where it provides 'snaphots' of all the different types of racing.

Then have a simulation season mode or something like that. Where you race all the tracks in a proper league setup, and of course option for full race lengths, qualifying, pit stopping and all the 'difficult' stuff.

And of course keep the quick race, time trial, multiplayer and modding stuff.

It surely wouldn't take much to add something like this, would it?
 
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